WEBVTT 00:00:26.506 --> 00:00:29.006 Ah, welcome to Salt Cravings. 00:00:30.066 --> 00:00:31.586 My name's Brianna. 00:00:31.766 --> 00:00:32.866 My name's Clair. 00:00:33.086 --> 00:00:35.706 And welcome to the life of luxury. 00:00:35.726 --> 00:00:38.766 Oh, I'm feeling so luxurious. 00:00:39.046 --> 00:00:42.086 Isn't it incredible, now that we've set up a Patreon. 00:00:42.386 --> 00:00:45.186 I have so much money. 00:00:45.206 --> 00:00:50.286 Oh, I'm just swimming in these bills, these- 00:00:50.786 --> 00:00:52.626 Dollar, dollar bills. 00:00:52.646 --> 00:00:54.766 Sorry, what faces are on US bills? 00:00:54.766 --> 00:00:56.106 I don't know anything about the US. 00:00:56.106 --> 00:00:58.026 Benjamins, Franklins? 00:00:58.086 --> 00:00:59.086 Yes, yes. 00:00:59.226 --> 00:00:59.946 Wilsons? 00:01:01.906 --> 00:01:02.526 Bushes? 00:01:02.546 --> 00:01:11.726 If there are bushes on US dollar bills, we are truly in a dystopia. 00:01:12.866 --> 00:01:15.786 There's Washington on one of them, for sure. 00:01:15.806 --> 00:01:17.106 Remember to wash your bills. 00:01:17.126 --> 00:01:18.506 Remember to wash your bills. 00:01:18.526 --> 00:01:25.246 That's what we're doing here at Rich Salt Cravings now, because we have so much money for our Patreon. 00:01:25.266 --> 00:01:28.066 Don't look at how much money is being joined in, Patreon. 00:01:28.666 --> 00:01:30.626 Yeah, just take our word for it. 00:01:30.646 --> 00:01:31.866 Just take our word for it. 00:01:31.886 --> 00:01:34.306 We are making so, so much money. 00:01:34.326 --> 00:01:36.726 I'm so, so filthy now. 00:01:36.746 --> 00:01:37.326 I know. 00:01:37.346 --> 00:01:38.626 Filthy rich that is. 00:01:38.846 --> 00:01:47.766 And you know, you, and you know, if you want to join in and feel connected to the richness, the luxury. 00:01:49.986 --> 00:01:59.606 If you want to be the 1% of people don't need to donate, you can go do that at Patreon. 00:01:59.606 --> 00:02:04.106 Anyway, I wanted to do a promo at the top. 00:02:04.686 --> 00:02:06.966 And now it's all downhill from here, is what you're saying? 00:02:06.986 --> 00:02:08.166 Well, it is. 00:02:08.186 --> 00:02:10.486 Cause if we're at the top, we can only go down. 00:02:10.506 --> 00:02:13.646 We're at the top in terms of our income because we're so rich. 00:02:13.726 --> 00:02:14.286 Oh, I see. 00:02:14.306 --> 00:02:17.046 It started at the top and now we're going down. 00:02:17.226 --> 00:02:18.466 Now we're going down. 00:02:18.886 --> 00:02:20.946 But, hey, doesn't it feel good? 00:02:21.366 --> 00:02:22.166 I mean, it's easy. 00:02:22.186 --> 00:02:24.086 Gravity helps a lot when we go down. 00:02:24.206 --> 00:02:26.306 Yeah. 00:02:26.406 --> 00:02:28.646 Unfortunately, in addition to being rich, I am sick. 00:02:28.906 --> 00:02:32.626 So, Sick of money. 00:02:32.906 --> 00:02:34.186 Sick of all this money. 00:02:36.686 --> 00:02:39.466 Oh, there's just so much. 00:02:39.486 --> 00:02:41.566 It's an absurd amount of money, Clair. 00:02:43.026 --> 00:02:44.426 What are you gonna do with all your money? 00:02:44.806 --> 00:02:48.066 I think I might buy a super yacht. 00:02:48.486 --> 00:02:49.066 Oh, wow. 00:02:49.286 --> 00:02:51.906 Are you gonna get the super yacht with six bedrooms or eight? 00:02:52.226 --> 00:02:55.766 I was looking at the eight bedroom one with the golden toilet. 00:02:56.526 --> 00:02:57.006 Gold. 00:02:57.026 --> 00:02:58.366 That's so cold, though. 00:02:58.386 --> 00:02:59.526 Not titanium? 00:02:59.546 --> 00:03:01.606 Well, it's a heated gold toilet. 00:03:01.706 --> 00:03:02.366 Okay. 00:03:02.386 --> 00:03:04.466 But gold melts if it's heated too much. 00:03:04.486 --> 00:03:07.366 So remember to get like the diamond studs so that it- 00:03:07.386 --> 00:03:08.306 Yes, yes, yes. 00:03:08.326 --> 00:03:08.686 Properly. 00:03:08.706 --> 00:03:10.266 Of course, that goes without saying. 00:03:10.886 --> 00:03:13.686 We know how to do it in the life of Luxury. 00:03:16.346 --> 00:03:19.986 I guess we should keep doing our podcast, which makes us so much money now. 00:03:20.006 --> 00:03:21.186 It's so much money. 00:03:21.206 --> 00:03:23.026 I guess I can give you a craving. 00:03:23.046 --> 00:03:25.306 Yeah, just, you know, let's keep doing it. 00:03:25.326 --> 00:03:26.066 It's all worth it. 00:03:26.086 --> 00:03:28.066 We've sold out now completely. 00:03:29.206 --> 00:03:31.626 So as a sellout, what are you craving? 00:03:32.246 --> 00:03:45.146 As a sellout, I thought since last time we sort of went into dystopia, I thought maybe I'd try to bring it into a utopia sort of realm because my first craving is the end of copyright. 00:03:45.906 --> 00:03:49.906 Hell yes, yes, yes. 00:03:50.166 --> 00:03:51.366 I want Mickey Mouse. 00:03:52.226 --> 00:03:55.666 I want Mickey Mouse's head on Donald Duck's body. 00:03:55.686 --> 00:03:58.046 I want Mickey Mouse's head on a plate. 00:04:00.006 --> 00:04:01.686 Deliver to me. 00:04:01.706 --> 00:04:03.606 This is definitely not a dystopia. 00:04:04.866 --> 00:04:10.066 Listen, I'm just saying, it would be great to be able to do whatever we want to do with those mice. 00:04:12.726 --> 00:04:13.586 No, no, you said it. 00:04:13.606 --> 00:04:14.746 It's there now. 00:04:14.746 --> 00:04:15.446 It's out there. 00:04:15.606 --> 00:04:19.706 Listen, I just want to clarify, I do not want to fuck Mickey Mouse. 00:04:20.066 --> 00:04:25.646 I'm sure that now that you have said these words exactly, people knew that you did not mean that. 00:04:25.846 --> 00:04:27.626 Yeah, exactly, exactly, right? 00:04:28.146 --> 00:04:29.646 But I do like this a lot. 00:04:31.806 --> 00:04:37.046 I think that there's a lot of properties that should not be in copyright. 00:04:37.566 --> 00:04:41.726 I mean, I just think copyright in general is always going to cause trouble. 00:04:41.746 --> 00:04:53.706 And especially, I think I've talked about this before, in technology is where like, if I write a piece of code, or I mean, it's really anything that you create, if you write a book, etc, etc, it technically belongs to you. 00:04:53.926 --> 00:05:03.186 But then you use these websites like Facebook or Instagram or whatever, where when you use them, you're basically like giving them ownership. 00:05:03.206 --> 00:05:06.346 You're waiving your right to anything. 00:05:06.366 --> 00:05:14.106 And so copyright doesn't really exist on an individual if you want to use the platforms. 00:05:14.766 --> 00:05:22.866 So then, of course, when you work for a tech company, you usually sign a contract that says like, you're waiving your copyright to them. 00:05:22.926 --> 00:05:25.686 And this really stunts technological growth. 00:05:25.686 --> 00:05:36.326 Like, if copyright never existed, imagine the technologies we could build because we don't have to create word processing for the, I don't know, 10,000th time. 00:05:36.346 --> 00:05:37.826 Yeah, no, for sure. 00:05:38.106 --> 00:05:44.126 I mean, if we're talking about creative endeavors, I can actually tell you what it's like in a world where copyright does not exist. 00:05:44.506 --> 00:05:51.946 Because for most of European and English literary history, there wasn't copyright. 00:05:52.166 --> 00:05:57.786 It was kind of a dick move to just straight up copy other people's stuff, but it wasn't illegal. 00:05:57.826 --> 00:06:00.226 You didn't have a right to your intellectual property. 00:06:00.246 --> 00:06:01.326 You could copy whatever you wanted. 00:06:01.346 --> 00:06:02.286 Shakespeare copied. 00:06:02.606 --> 00:06:04.066 Everyone copied, really. 00:06:04.086 --> 00:06:09.186 The shift towards copyright is tied up really strongly with individualism. 00:06:09.346 --> 00:06:21.006 And you can see that a lot of proponents of copyright are people who have a really individualistic, romantic era notion of the individual genius. 00:06:21.666 --> 00:06:33.726 And so you see people like William Wordsworth, who actually, in his life, ended up advocating for a forever copyright that never went away, which functionally people still advocate for. 00:06:33.746 --> 00:06:38.286 But his whole thing was, no, I should always have the copyright to everything that I create. 00:06:39.306 --> 00:06:40.166 I think another... 00:06:40.186 --> 00:06:44.746 I know you know everything about copyright because you're really good at this stuff. 00:06:44.766 --> 00:07:03.006 But I think the other thing that's really inspired me to bring this to the table today is, I don't know if you've seen this, but Disney's getting up in arms about photos of baby Yoda on the internet, and they basically want to make it like, so you can't post photos of baby Yoda, period, or GIFs or anything like that because copyright. 00:07:03.026 --> 00:07:04.146 And that's the reason. 00:07:04.166 --> 00:07:06.886 This is the way that Disney's done things for a while. 00:07:06.906 --> 00:07:09.726 They are some of the most ardent defenders of their copyright. 00:07:09.746 --> 00:07:10.706 And I'm not surprised. 00:07:10.786 --> 00:07:14.366 I'm not surprised that it is Disney doing this, but I'm blown away. 00:07:14.386 --> 00:07:17.986 It's like, yes, you cannot post these funny GIFs of baby Yoda. 00:07:18.086 --> 00:07:18.886 Fuck you. 00:07:19.266 --> 00:07:19.886 Yeah. 00:07:20.226 --> 00:07:23.006 Which is free advertising. 00:07:23.086 --> 00:07:24.126 Of course, of course. 00:07:24.166 --> 00:07:32.866 I mean, the thing about copyright, sometimes copyright is really positive because it prevents certain people from just stealing random people's shit. 00:07:33.046 --> 00:07:43.726 But then other times, copyright ends up being a way to exploit people and a way to shut down creativity and like, you know, a way to stop creative endeavors. 00:07:43.726 --> 00:07:46.806 Because a lot of creative endeavors are based on previous creative endeavors. 00:07:46.826 --> 00:07:50.426 And fan fiction is the same thing as reinterpretation, et cetera, and so forth. 00:07:50.546 --> 00:07:52.946 But fan fiction isn't real, Brianna. 00:07:53.326 --> 00:07:55.146 It's not real literature. 00:07:55.166 --> 00:07:58.466 No one reads fan fiction. 00:07:58.486 --> 00:08:00.006 No one writes fan fiction. 00:08:00.026 --> 00:08:02.886 There's no website out there for fan fiction. 00:08:03.186 --> 00:08:05.046 There's definitely not several. 00:08:05.166 --> 00:08:10.946 There's definitely only one giant word document out there that has all fan fiction ever written, and it's never shared online. 00:08:10.966 --> 00:08:12.886 Of course, that is the way that it works. 00:08:13.246 --> 00:08:23.446 The point is that copyright can be very positive, but also the way that it's used is almost entirely negative, especially when we're looking at big corporations. 00:08:23.986 --> 00:08:29.886 And I mean, really, who's going to win out in the law battle of copyright, right? 00:08:29.946 --> 00:08:39.486 Oh, it's always people who have more money and power because it's even just a matter of, even if you were in the right, they can take you to court and beat you to death with lawyer fees. 00:08:39.506 --> 00:08:40.226 Yeah, exactly. 00:08:40.726 --> 00:08:45.206 So I guess my question is, are we ending copyright? 00:08:45.226 --> 00:08:45.966 Can we do it? 00:08:46.146 --> 00:08:46.986 How do we do it? 00:08:47.646 --> 00:08:48.806 What does this look like? 00:08:49.086 --> 00:08:58.026 Do you want my honest answer on the idea of what would be a good way to determine a new system of copyright? 00:08:58.046 --> 00:09:09.686 Because if so, I'm going to have to write a paper, and it's going to be excessive, and there's going to be a whole lot of talk about like, well, what size should a thing, and after what period of time? 00:09:09.706 --> 00:09:10.806 I'm going to stop you. 00:09:10.826 --> 00:09:14.306 Brianna, I'm going to have to rein you in here. 00:09:14.326 --> 00:09:18.166 There's so many elements and layers. 00:09:18.186 --> 00:09:23.406 Brianna, I appreciate the enthusiasm of the topic that I brought today. 00:09:23.426 --> 00:09:25.326 I would love this essay. 00:09:25.326 --> 00:09:28.606 Please have it on my desk by Monday next week. 00:09:28.926 --> 00:09:34.866 But for now, maybe we can come up with some more instant solutions. 00:09:36.746 --> 00:09:37.826 All right. 00:09:37.906 --> 00:09:39.226 I have a good first step. 00:09:39.426 --> 00:09:42.766 We're going to nationalize Disney. 00:09:45.406 --> 00:09:48.906 And by nationalize, you mean like everyone owns Disney? 00:09:48.946 --> 00:09:56.046 Yeah, we're splitting up their assets and completely abolishing the company as it exists because they are a tyrant on the media landscape. 00:09:56.066 --> 00:09:57.206 Can I have Disney Plus? 00:09:57.426 --> 00:09:58.486 I want Disney Plus. 00:09:58.606 --> 00:10:01.366 I know it's new, but I just I want my own streaming service. 00:10:01.386 --> 00:10:01.966 It's yours. 00:10:02.126 --> 00:10:03.386 It's yours, Clair. 00:10:03.546 --> 00:10:05.386 Oh, God, I always wanted it. 00:10:05.666 --> 00:10:11.366 But I think the thing you should go subscribe to now that I own Disney Plus, you should go to subscribe to Disney Plus. 00:10:11.386 --> 00:10:14.686 Wow, I'm going to go buy Disney Plus because Clair owns it now. 00:10:14.706 --> 00:10:15.826 Yeah, it's mine now. 00:10:15.906 --> 00:10:22.646 But but like this is important because Disney is the one that keeps saying, oh, copyright should be longer. 00:10:22.666 --> 00:10:23.966 Copyright should be right. 00:10:23.986 --> 00:10:25.926 It's like, what, 120 years or something? 00:10:25.946 --> 00:10:29.166 Yeah, and it's going to keep expanding for as long as Disney's a corporation. 00:10:29.186 --> 00:10:30.266 First, we need to destroy. 00:10:31.386 --> 00:10:31.706 Yeah. 00:10:32.206 --> 00:10:32.606 Yeah. 00:10:32.626 --> 00:10:33.226 Coming up on. 00:10:33.826 --> 00:10:39.486 So we're going to see within the next few years, we're going to see copyright extended again, unless we abolish Disney. 00:10:39.686 --> 00:10:42.746 What if what if we make the mouse join our ranks? 00:10:43.466 --> 00:10:46.726 Yes, I because without copyright, he can. 00:10:46.966 --> 00:10:51.346 No, but like, what if what if we make the mouse lobby the lobbyists? 00:10:52.526 --> 00:10:54.526 What if we like, lay out some cheese? 00:10:54.546 --> 00:11:00.286 Oh, like some bad outdated references? 00:11:01.066 --> 00:11:02.066 That's some cheese. 00:11:04.406 --> 00:11:04.906 Yeah. 00:11:05.486 --> 00:11:09.206 Do you want this magic hat that you can control brooms with? 00:11:09.666 --> 00:11:10.486 Absolutely. 00:11:13.526 --> 00:11:16.806 Do you want to get out of doing any work because you're? 00:11:18.526 --> 00:11:19.246 What was that? 00:11:20.046 --> 00:11:24.826 Yes, yes, yes, they keep working me. 00:11:26.146 --> 00:11:26.986 I need out. 00:11:27.826 --> 00:11:28.326 Oh, okay. 00:11:28.346 --> 00:11:28.846 Help me. 00:11:28.866 --> 00:11:30.366 I'm Mickey Mouse and I need out. 00:11:31.406 --> 00:11:41.346 Does Mickey Mouse just like have this uncontrollable laughter that like, it just like is like hiccups. 00:11:41.366 --> 00:11:42.406 It's a cry for help. 00:11:42.446 --> 00:11:43.206 Oh, I see. 00:11:43.206 --> 00:11:43.706 I see. 00:11:44.206 --> 00:11:44.566 Yes. 00:11:44.566 --> 00:11:47.926 I think the mouse joining the ranks would be a good first step. 00:11:49.346 --> 00:11:54.246 Disney's greatest weapon of copyright is now our greatest weapon. 00:11:55.306 --> 00:11:58.226 Mickey Mouse is now a symbol of anti-copyright laws. 00:11:58.406 --> 00:11:58.766 Yeah. 00:11:58.826 --> 00:11:59.166 Yeah. 00:11:59.646 --> 00:12:01.066 Mickey Mouse, the anarchist. 00:12:02.926 --> 00:12:09.466 So Mickey Mouse is going to go like throw a grenade into like the Marvel vault and blow up the Avengers. 00:12:09.606 --> 00:12:09.946 All right. 00:12:09.966 --> 00:12:11.586 So we're assembling the anti-Avengers. 00:12:13.766 --> 00:12:16.986 And Mickey Mouse is the Captain America of this team. 00:12:17.006 --> 00:12:17.966 Baby Yoda is there. 00:12:17.966 --> 00:12:19.046 Baby Yoda is there. 00:12:19.066 --> 00:12:22.806 We've turned their like greatest stars against them. 00:12:22.826 --> 00:12:23.466 Yes. 00:12:23.486 --> 00:12:31.806 But we need some other people to join the ranks because I think like not everyone in Disney is going to be like so easily turned against Disney. 00:12:31.826 --> 00:12:34.266 I think Mickey's like pretty tired. 00:12:34.366 --> 00:12:38.906 And I think Baby Yoda is like fresh faced and like a symbol of the resistance. 00:12:38.926 --> 00:12:40.246 A symbol of the resistance. 00:12:40.646 --> 00:12:42.366 The new resistance, you could say. 00:12:42.426 --> 00:12:43.326 Yes, exactly. 00:12:43.346 --> 00:12:44.206 The new resistance. 00:12:44.226 --> 00:12:46.286 Who else are we getting to join our ranks? 00:12:46.906 --> 00:12:48.626 Um, goodness. 00:12:48.646 --> 00:12:49.706 There's a, it's a good question. 00:12:49.726 --> 00:12:50.406 Master Chief? 00:12:50.846 --> 00:12:52.746 Can we get Master Chief to join the ranks? 00:12:53.406 --> 00:12:54.966 Master Chief is a copyrighted character. 00:12:54.986 --> 00:12:57.206 I mean, if we're just looking at copyrighted characters. 00:12:57.366 --> 00:13:01.606 Well, yeah, because we got to turn their greatest weapons against them, right? 00:13:01.626 --> 00:13:02.106 True. 00:13:02.166 --> 00:13:04.286 What are some un-copyrighted characters? 00:13:04.726 --> 00:13:05.866 Um, Sherlock Holmes. 00:13:06.166 --> 00:13:07.246 Okay, cool. 00:13:07.266 --> 00:13:08.426 Sherlock Holmes is there. 00:13:08.766 --> 00:13:10.306 I guess Frankenstein would be. 00:13:10.406 --> 00:13:11.426 Oh, damn, yeah. 00:13:11.446 --> 00:13:14.046 All right, Frankenstein and Sherlock Holmes are on the case. 00:13:14.066 --> 00:13:19.006 But this is like Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, which is like way cooler and way stronger than... 00:13:19.026 --> 00:13:20.726 And probably better at planning. 00:13:20.986 --> 00:13:22.126 Way better at planning. 00:13:22.146 --> 00:13:24.026 It speaks better than I do. 00:13:24.046 --> 00:13:25.706 It's like an incredible orator. 00:13:26.086 --> 00:13:28.626 And so that's a good asset for the team. 00:13:28.846 --> 00:13:31.366 So Mickey Mouse is riding on the back of Frankenstein. 00:13:31.386 --> 00:13:38.186 Frankenstein hates this because Mickey Mouse only knows the Disney version of Frankenstein and is like, we're gonna beat them up. 00:13:38.486 --> 00:13:41.186 And Frankenstein is like, please, please get off of me. 00:13:41.206 --> 00:13:43.926 I would like you very much to evacuate my shoulders. 00:13:44.006 --> 00:13:45.366 Yes, yes, exactly. 00:13:45.386 --> 00:13:46.466 Oh, it's perfect. 00:13:46.926 --> 00:13:49.666 I think we need some superheroes just in general. 00:13:50.206 --> 00:13:58.046 Can I pull like a deep cut from the lead character from Strong Female Protagonist, a webcomic? 00:13:58.446 --> 00:13:59.026 Sure. 00:13:59.326 --> 00:14:04.286 Maybe, I don't know if that's not copyright, but that doesn't stop us so far. 00:14:04.466 --> 00:14:06.826 I mean, that's probably copyrighted. 00:14:06.966 --> 00:14:07.406 Cool. 00:14:08.206 --> 00:14:10.086 I think that that's a good call. 00:14:10.586 --> 00:14:12.766 I think we've got a really good anti-copyright crew. 00:14:12.766 --> 00:14:13.966 What's the plan? 00:14:14.266 --> 00:14:23.306 All right, so, you know in the Disney vault where they keep the laws, where they keep the Disney laws of copyright? 00:14:23.326 --> 00:14:24.906 So we're gonna break into the vault. 00:14:25.086 --> 00:14:25.526 Okay. 00:14:25.626 --> 00:14:26.206 And so- 00:14:26.366 --> 00:14:27.106 It's a heist. 00:14:27.126 --> 00:14:27.826 It's a heist. 00:14:27.886 --> 00:14:28.966 We're doing another heist. 00:14:30.666 --> 00:14:34.946 It's incredible how many cravings you can solve with a heist. 00:14:36.266 --> 00:14:41.406 It does seem to be the core of a craving, is if you can turn it into a heist, it's a good craving. 00:14:41.426 --> 00:14:43.346 Uh-huh, absolutely. 00:14:43.366 --> 00:14:46.006 Welcome to Salt Cravings, a heist podcast. 00:14:46.766 --> 00:14:48.686 Honestly, sometimes it kind of is. 00:14:49.886 --> 00:14:52.686 Well, maybe we don't have to do a heist. 00:14:53.006 --> 00:14:54.666 Maybe we bring the heists to us. 00:14:54.766 --> 00:14:56.046 Maybe we lure them out. 00:14:56.706 --> 00:15:03.526 Maybe it's like, oh, you know, every ten decades, every couple decades, ten decades is too long. 00:15:04.426 --> 00:15:07.906 Every few decades, you have to update your copyright law, right? 00:15:08.346 --> 00:15:08.866 You do. 00:15:08.886 --> 00:15:11.266 It's actually way more frequent than every couple of decades. 00:15:11.286 --> 00:15:21.486 So every couple of sub-decades, as I like to call them, or mini-decades, if you could, you have to, out of the vault, you have to bring the copyright laws. 00:15:21.506 --> 00:15:23.826 Because you're right, this vault is impenetrable. 00:15:23.846 --> 00:15:24.946 We're never gonna get in there. 00:15:25.166 --> 00:15:33.046 So what we have to do is we have to strike them when they're bringing this contract to get re-signed and updated. 00:15:33.146 --> 00:15:34.806 So we gotta strike them when they're weak. 00:15:35.026 --> 00:15:42.326 You know that car, the Disney car, where they make it bulletproof, where they put the contract in? 00:15:42.426 --> 00:15:42.766 Yes. 00:15:42.786 --> 00:15:44.246 We gotta steal that car. 00:15:44.366 --> 00:15:46.166 We gotta steal that car, all right. 00:15:46.466 --> 00:15:52.426 Or we just gotta stop that car, take the paper, and then be like, all right, so how are we, what's the distraction? 00:15:52.446 --> 00:15:54.526 What is the diversion that we're setting up? 00:15:54.546 --> 00:15:58.826 The car is going along, and it's like, what, is it construction? 00:15:59.066 --> 00:15:59.706 Who's there? 00:15:59.726 --> 00:16:01.286 Is it Mickey Mouse in a construction hat? 00:16:01.306 --> 00:16:02.286 Right, this is my thing. 00:16:02.306 --> 00:16:11.226 It's just like, imagine the absolute distraction of Disney seeing Mickey Mouse interrupting them, just being like, did you put him there? 00:16:11.326 --> 00:16:12.286 I didn't put him there. 00:16:12.286 --> 00:16:13.546 Someone should go talk to him. 00:16:14.046 --> 00:16:15.446 Can someone call the animators? 00:16:15.466 --> 00:16:20.126 Who put Mickey in the middle of Wall Street? 00:16:20.146 --> 00:16:31.406 And it's just like Mickey Mouse in full Kingdom Hearts outfit of the most badass Mickey Mouse has ever been, just staring them down and glaring. 00:16:33.106 --> 00:16:34.666 Okay, so I've never played Kingdom Hearts. 00:16:34.686 --> 00:16:40.046 Does Mickey Mouse use like, because I know it's Final Fantasy, does Mickey Mouse use magic, like Thundera or like? 00:16:40.066 --> 00:16:40.726 I think so. 00:16:40.746 --> 00:16:41.306 Okay, cool. 00:16:41.326 --> 00:16:43.346 So there's a key or whatever in this game. 00:16:43.486 --> 00:16:45.146 Mickey Mouse is clearly magical. 00:16:45.606 --> 00:16:47.086 Mickey Mouse is clearly a mage. 00:16:47.106 --> 00:16:56.426 And so Mickey Mouse raises this key sword and like thunder shoots down and then just points the key sword at the car and thunder shoots at the car. 00:16:57.626 --> 00:17:00.026 And they're like, Mickey, rude. 00:17:01.186 --> 00:17:03.226 And Mickey is like, I'm sorry. 00:17:05.906 --> 00:17:06.966 I love it, I love it. 00:17:07.006 --> 00:17:14.766 And this is a really good distraction because they're all going to come out and we're just going to get all the Disney soldiers coming out because they've hired a private military corporation. 00:17:14.786 --> 00:17:15.386 The Avengers. 00:17:15.706 --> 00:17:16.966 Yeah, it's the Avengers. 00:17:17.166 --> 00:17:18.806 And it's the Avengers versus Mickey Mouse. 00:17:19.166 --> 00:17:23.086 But they can't hit him because he just keeps teleporting or something, I don't know. 00:17:23.106 --> 00:17:24.466 He's Mickey Mouse, you can't. 00:17:24.466 --> 00:17:28.366 He's got so much years behind him as a mage. 00:17:28.386 --> 00:17:34.846 Yeah, have you seen how many times Mickey Mouse has been beaten up in cartoons and it never really hurts him? 00:17:35.046 --> 00:17:37.466 It's like the fact that SpongeBob's functionally immortal. 00:17:37.506 --> 00:17:40.326 SpongeBob is part of the anti-imikapi, right? 00:17:40.566 --> 00:17:41.186 Absolutely. 00:17:41.206 --> 00:17:42.926 So SpongeBob is going to come out of the sewer. 00:17:42.946 --> 00:17:53.246 SpongeBob is a particularly potent choice right now after the fact that the creator of SpongeBob passed away was specifically like, I don't want any spinoffs, and now he's passed away and now they're making a spinoff. 00:17:53.266 --> 00:17:57.346 Anyway, SpongeBob's in this fucking crew and he's gonna wreck some shit. 00:17:57.366 --> 00:18:08.726 So he comes out, so the car is stopped over a sewer grate and SpongeBob comes out from the sewer grate and squeezes through the whatever, like corners of this car into- 00:18:08.766 --> 00:18:09.846 Cartoon logic, yes. 00:18:11.566 --> 00:18:13.806 Cartoon, listen, don't bring it here. 00:18:13.826 --> 00:18:15.846 He's a cartoon character, cartoon logic works. 00:18:15.866 --> 00:18:17.326 It's fine, it's fine, okay. 00:18:17.346 --> 00:18:20.546 All right, so SpongeBob comes into the car. 00:18:20.886 --> 00:18:23.166 Are people guarding this piece of paper in the car? 00:18:23.186 --> 00:18:25.666 Does SpongeBob have to do kung fu? 00:18:26.046 --> 00:18:27.086 Yes, probably. 00:18:27.106 --> 00:18:35.946 SpongeBob has to do kung fu, but it's mostly to lure them a little farther out of the car so that we can get the main crew in there. 00:18:35.966 --> 00:18:37.366 Oh, who's the main crew? 00:18:37.426 --> 00:18:39.386 I mean, the main crew is everyone else, as we've said. 00:18:39.406 --> 00:18:40.666 Okay, who did we say? 00:18:40.686 --> 00:18:45.086 We said Frankenstein, we said Sherlock Holmes. 00:18:45.306 --> 00:18:48.326 We said that one character from Strong Female Protagonist. 00:18:48.346 --> 00:18:48.646 Cool. 00:18:49.086 --> 00:18:50.326 I think we had one more. 00:18:51.186 --> 00:18:51.886 I don't remember. 00:18:51.906 --> 00:18:53.066 I don't remember either. 00:18:53.086 --> 00:18:55.766 So Frankenstein and Sherlock Holmes. 00:18:55.786 --> 00:18:57.586 Frankenstein dressed as Sherlock Holmes. 00:18:57.606 --> 00:18:59.926 Let me just be clear, Frankenstein- 00:18:59.946 --> 00:19:03.746 Sherlock Holmes also dressed as Sherlock Holmes. 00:19:03.806 --> 00:19:08.046 So Frankenstein is Sherlock Holmes, and Sherlock Holmes is Watson. 00:19:08.906 --> 00:19:13.246 Um, because let's be real, who the real intelligence is here. 00:19:14.106 --> 00:19:21.286 Um, just like come on either side, and they're like dressed up like investigators, and they're like, oh, this is like an inspection. 00:19:21.306 --> 00:19:24.786 You were gonna have to like check your car for drugs or whatever. 00:19:24.806 --> 00:19:33.806 And so they go in and like one of them's like distracting them, and the other one grabs the copyright law paper, and then you just like erase. 00:19:34.126 --> 00:19:40.106 So it says 120, and I think you just erased the one and the two, and it just says zero, and then you sign it and you put it back. 00:19:41.206 --> 00:19:42.146 And there you go. 00:19:42.166 --> 00:19:42.906 They'll never know. 00:19:42.926 --> 00:19:44.326 And it's the perfect crime. 00:19:44.346 --> 00:19:45.406 They'll never know. 00:19:45.426 --> 00:19:46.906 Zero years of copyright. 00:19:47.146 --> 00:19:52.686 They'll take it to the judge, or the judge will be like, the judge will be like, all right, oh, so zero years of copyright? 00:19:53.186 --> 00:19:53.826 And they're like, no! 00:19:54.706 --> 00:19:56.306 But it's too late, he's already signed it. 00:19:56.326 --> 00:19:57.426 Yeah, and that's it forever. 00:19:58.126 --> 00:19:59.866 And we just abolished copyright. 00:20:00.146 --> 00:20:01.246 Hell yeah. 00:20:01.266 --> 00:20:03.526 Now everyone can steal everything. 00:20:03.526 --> 00:20:06.306 Yeah, wanna make a Mickey Mouse fan fiction? 00:20:06.526 --> 00:20:08.566 Wanna make Frankenstein fuck Mickey Mouse? 00:20:08.646 --> 00:20:09.366 Now you can. 00:20:09.686 --> 00:20:12.006 Wanna steal Salt Cravings? 00:20:12.106 --> 00:20:13.186 You can do that too. 00:20:13.206 --> 00:20:14.426 I mean, do it anyways. 00:20:14.746 --> 00:20:15.566 Yeah, fuck it. 00:20:15.586 --> 00:20:17.486 It's a podcast, who cares? 00:20:17.886 --> 00:20:19.586 Make content, it's cool. 00:20:20.026 --> 00:20:22.286 Make content, it's cool. 00:20:22.766 --> 00:20:24.006 Welcome to Salt Cravings. 00:20:24.026 --> 00:20:25.166 I'm copyrighting that slogan. 00:20:27.446 --> 00:20:30.246 Do you wanna give me the next craving to solve? 00:20:30.586 --> 00:20:31.566 I would love to. 00:20:31.926 --> 00:20:33.246 You sound so genuine, wow. 00:20:34.686 --> 00:20:43.946 I am very genuine about this craving, because the thing about Star Wars, and baby Yoda, and baby, well, exactly. 00:20:44.366 --> 00:20:49.706 The thing about Star Wars is that Star Wars has an incredible system of canon. 00:20:50.346 --> 00:20:55.086 This is separate, sorry, sorry, pre-canon that is all now non-canon or new canon? 00:20:55.106 --> 00:20:57.306 The pre-canon that is now all non-canon. 00:20:57.506 --> 00:21:05.246 This is a very Disney episode, in which I am saying, what if Disney never came in and made all the old shit not a thing anymore? 00:21:05.606 --> 00:21:08.926 And the answer to that is, you would still have people obsessed with Yoda's toes. 00:21:09.006 --> 00:21:13.826 I would like to leave you something that you've already heard before, Clair. 00:21:14.666 --> 00:21:16.466 But that the people need to hear. 00:21:16.666 --> 00:21:17.106 Yeah. 00:21:17.586 --> 00:21:25.606 Which is that there's a lot of people who are very obsessed with every possible aspect of Star Wars. 00:21:25.786 --> 00:21:26.266 You don't say. 00:21:26.286 --> 00:21:33.966 And the talk of baby Yoda has brought up some thoughts about the fact that there is no name for Yoda species. 00:21:33.986 --> 00:21:36.626 And there's a lot of details about Yoda species that we don't know. 00:21:37.406 --> 00:21:43.746 On Wookiepedia, there's a subheading on the Yoda species page called Number of Toes. 00:21:44.866 --> 00:21:49.386 I would like to read you something from this page. 00:21:49.766 --> 00:21:50.606 People want to find it. 00:21:50.626 --> 00:21:57.126 It is the one that is marked legends rather than the one that is not marked legends because Wookiepedia has ones for the new canon and old canon. 00:21:57.146 --> 00:21:58.306 This is the old canon one. 00:21:59.006 --> 00:22:13.666 And under Number of Toes, it says, the number of toes that members of this species, aka Yoda species, possess has been inconsistently portrayed over the course of the Star Wars franchise, including in the films. 00:22:13.986 --> 00:22:25.946 A Tridactyl foot would only have three toes, but this version has only appeared once in the Phantom Menace, whereas the puppet used in the Empire Strikes Back in Return of the Jedi, as well as the digital model from Revenge of the Sith, all have four toes. 00:22:26.426 --> 00:22:31.586 In the Empire Strikes Back shot of Yoda rummaging through Luke's supplies, Yoda's souls are visible. 00:22:32.226 --> 00:22:42.866 Although there are definitely three forward facing toes, an additional digit protruding in the opposite direction is ambiguously either a fourth toe or a prehensile heel of some kind if such a thing is anatomically possible. 00:22:43.806 --> 00:22:51.226 The clear presence or absence of a fourth toenail would settle the matter, but the angle of the shot makes it impossible to see whether one is there. 00:22:51.686 --> 00:22:56.466 If the fourth rear facing digit is a toe, then Yoda's species have anisodactyl feet. 00:22:56.806 --> 00:23:09.626 In The Phantom Menace, the puppets of both Yoda and Yaddle, which is a female member of Yoda's species, feature three forward facing toes and a blunted human-like heel instead of the original puppet's anisodactyl arrangement, thus having truly tri-dactyl feet. 00:23:09.926 --> 00:23:14.486 Attack of the Clones has a fully digital Yoda, but contains no closeups adequate to discern the toe arrangement. 00:23:14.746 --> 00:23:25.266 The digital Yoda in Revenge of the Sith returns to the original trilogy puppet's anisodactyl design as scene shots of Yoda plummeting to the Senate Rotunda floor at the conclusion of his battle with Darth Sidious. 00:23:25.466 --> 00:23:37.626 And when jumping down into Bail Organa's feet or shortly afterwards, one earlier shot of the Odin lying momentarily stunned on a Senate pod during the battle also seems to display a rearward fourth toe nail, indicating the fourth digit is indeed a toe, but the shot is not adequately clear at DVD resolution. 00:23:37.926 --> 00:23:39.386 Likely, as are some... 00:23:42.006 --> 00:23:42.966 I'll stop there. 00:23:43.266 --> 00:23:46.126 This goes on for like four more paragraphs. 00:23:46.146 --> 00:23:48.866 Oh my God, I can't believe you went on for that many paragraphs. 00:23:48.886 --> 00:23:50.726 It is so good. 00:23:51.046 --> 00:23:52.546 It is incredible. 00:23:52.566 --> 00:23:58.226 I feel like I got lost halfway through that, but I pointed this out last time you read it to me, and I'm gonna point it out this time. 00:23:58.426 --> 00:24:02.886 I'm just angry at the phrase, if it is anatomically possible... 00:24:02.906 --> 00:24:03.746 I know, it's so good. 00:24:03.766 --> 00:24:09.346 In a sci-fi world, of course it's anatomically possible. 00:24:09.646 --> 00:24:10.546 You literally... 00:24:10.566 --> 00:24:13.606 There's a word for it, the anitridactyl, whatever the... 00:24:13.886 --> 00:24:16.346 Of course there are birds that have it. 00:24:16.366 --> 00:24:17.726 Tridactyl feet and anisodactyl feet. 00:24:17.906 --> 00:24:18.766 Thank you. 00:24:18.786 --> 00:24:19.526 Those are the first... 00:24:19.546 --> 00:24:20.586 Sure, yeah, there are words. 00:24:20.646 --> 00:24:22.526 So of course, I'm just angry. 00:24:22.586 --> 00:24:23.826 It's so good. 00:24:23.826 --> 00:24:25.346 Is it anatomically possible? 00:24:25.706 --> 00:24:26.646 Yes. 00:24:26.766 --> 00:24:54.246 And this is the thing, is that all of Star Wars canon is like this, to the extent that they're actually in the old canon, levels of canon, where the highest level is George Lucas canon, and then it's the TV shows, and then it's the books and stuff, where it's like if thing that is higher tier than another thing contradict each other, the higher tier thing is the correct thing, but also Star Wars considers itself a whole mythos. 00:24:54.486 --> 00:25:01.846 The point is, Star Wars fans are fucking nuts about canon, and it's the best thing in the entire world. 00:25:02.306 --> 00:25:12.366 And I want us to develop a new system of canon to be used in general for a piece of media. 00:25:12.746 --> 00:25:20.406 I will say that the Star Wars canon is really, really specific in terms of first and foremost is like anything that is in the films. 00:25:21.546 --> 00:25:35.306 Okay, so I think the biggest flaw in what we saw for how canon works was that a company came along, Disney, and was just like, none of this is real anymore, and basically just wiped out what canon was. 00:25:35.766 --> 00:25:43.726 Now, I think the idea of having a stable, one-off canon is where they went wrong. 00:25:43.866 --> 00:25:47.286 I think what we need is we need an ever-changing canon. 00:25:47.506 --> 00:26:05.106 So what if every week, we pick a new canon, and then we just throw a bunch of darts at a dartboard, and then we just have every single piece of media on this dartboard, and just whatever the darts hit, that's what's canon this week. 00:26:05.646 --> 00:26:06.806 In life? 00:26:07.226 --> 00:26:08.626 Yeah, and everything. 00:26:08.746 --> 00:26:09.886 And, okay, so- 00:26:09.906 --> 00:26:13.346 So we pick our laws of physics, and we put them on a dartboard. 00:26:14.986 --> 00:26:16.426 Is there gravity this week? 00:26:16.766 --> 00:26:17.686 Who knows? 00:26:17.686 --> 00:26:18.126 We could- 00:26:18.146 --> 00:26:19.286 Check the dartboard. 00:26:19.306 --> 00:26:22.066 Just apply this to pieces of media. 00:26:22.086 --> 00:26:25.346 We don't have to apply this to the whole world as it exists. 00:26:25.586 --> 00:26:26.526 Okay, I guess. 00:26:26.546 --> 00:26:27.366 All right, fine. 00:26:27.586 --> 00:26:29.686 Let's apply it to only media. 00:26:30.186 --> 00:26:30.806 Whatever. 00:26:31.606 --> 00:26:32.106 Boring. 00:26:32.346 --> 00:26:33.826 So we are gonna have gravity. 00:26:34.366 --> 00:26:36.346 Brianna's convinced me we're gonna keep gravity. 00:26:36.426 --> 00:26:37.506 Gravity is- 00:26:37.526 --> 00:26:40.086 For now, at least, we'll see what future cravings bring. 00:26:40.646 --> 00:26:44.266 I don't think it's out of the question that gravity may be abolished at some point. 00:26:44.266 --> 00:26:47.246 Gravity might have served its purpose eventually. 00:26:47.326 --> 00:26:48.926 For now, we're keeping it. 00:26:48.946 --> 00:26:49.246 Yeah. 00:26:49.786 --> 00:26:52.126 So let's really focus in now, right? 00:26:52.146 --> 00:26:53.766 We're already on the topic of Star Wars. 00:26:53.786 --> 00:26:56.206 Let's apply this to Star Wars. 00:26:56.226 --> 00:26:57.786 We've already talked to Star Wars to death. 00:26:57.806 --> 00:26:59.606 Let's make a new canon for Star Wars. 00:26:59.806 --> 00:27:00.426 Right. 00:27:00.706 --> 00:27:06.786 One of the things, and maybe there's like five pieces of media that are always true, right? 00:27:06.806 --> 00:27:09.766 You have your core axiom media, and those states- 00:27:09.806 --> 00:27:10.906 And it's not the movies. 00:27:10.946 --> 00:27:12.446 No, no, absolutely not. 00:27:12.746 --> 00:27:13.206 Hell no. 00:27:13.986 --> 00:27:16.926 Like maybe at most one movie is canon at a time. 00:27:17.606 --> 00:27:21.446 I think that that's one of the ones that changes is every week- 00:27:21.846 --> 00:27:23.326 It's the next movie, and then it just- 00:27:23.346 --> 00:27:25.106 No, it's a random movie. 00:27:25.126 --> 00:27:30.846 It's like, all right, and this week, New Hope is canon, but none of the others are. 00:27:30.846 --> 00:27:33.986 So as far as we know, Luke and Leia aren't siblings. 00:27:35.006 --> 00:27:35.566 So like- 00:27:35.586 --> 00:27:39.846 Because this is what it gets down to, is then none of the stuff in later movies is real. 00:27:40.146 --> 00:27:40.546 Right. 00:27:40.566 --> 00:27:50.986 The perfect part about this, because it's random and there's no order, like maybe like probabilistically, like eventually down the road, there's just an entire year where only like two movies are canon. 00:27:51.306 --> 00:27:52.066 Back and forth. 00:27:52.346 --> 00:28:00.006 It's just like, it's just, all right, this was the year where the only canon movies were The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. 00:28:00.306 --> 00:28:01.946 Oh, that's two and three, right? 00:28:01.966 --> 00:28:02.666 That's one and two. 00:28:02.846 --> 00:28:03.566 Oh, okay, good. 00:28:03.586 --> 00:28:05.286 The good ones is what you mean. 00:28:05.326 --> 00:28:06.866 But the best ones. 00:28:07.786 --> 00:28:11.226 The best, I love, you know what I love about those movies so much? 00:28:11.546 --> 00:28:13.866 I love the racist caricature in those movies. 00:28:13.946 --> 00:28:15.166 What racist caricature? 00:28:15.186 --> 00:28:17.026 That's not a real character and doesn't exist. 00:28:17.046 --> 00:28:23.306 Anyways, so one and two is, that character doesn't exist. 00:28:23.326 --> 00:28:26.006 I thought we all voted, we never talked about that character. 00:28:26.066 --> 00:28:33.066 Because, oh, then you get deep into it, and you can just say specific scenes are canon and other scenes are not canon. 00:28:33.246 --> 00:28:34.386 Oh, shit, yeah. 00:28:34.546 --> 00:28:36.046 So none of those scenes. 00:28:36.066 --> 00:28:45.786 It's just like act three of The Phantom Menace is canon, but nothing else is canon until act two of The Last Jedi. 00:28:46.266 --> 00:28:56.826 And I just want to be clear, BF, the short name of the character who will not be named, never canon, no matter what, is never canon even if they're in- 00:28:57.786 --> 00:28:59.006 Which, BF? 00:28:59.026 --> 00:29:01.306 BF, no, not Boba Fett. 00:29:01.326 --> 00:29:02.506 Boba Fett is the best character. 00:29:02.526 --> 00:29:07.686 I was about to say, that's not one of the racist caricatures, as far as I'm aware. 00:29:07.706 --> 00:29:09.066 No, Boba Fett just dies. 00:29:11.206 --> 00:29:12.946 Ah, JJF, JJRT. 00:29:13.306 --> 00:29:14.526 JJ Abrams. 00:29:14.546 --> 00:29:17.666 JJ Abrams, the racist character in Star Wars. 00:29:18.846 --> 00:29:20.246 Is no longer canon. 00:29:20.266 --> 00:29:21.326 Is no longer canon. 00:29:21.346 --> 00:29:23.226 JJ Abrams is no longer canon. 00:29:23.566 --> 00:29:24.526 This is really good. 00:29:24.546 --> 00:29:36.426 I don't know why this also needs to be just, cause when you think about it, sometimes, sometimes the best Star Wars things aren't even Star Wars. 00:29:37.406 --> 00:29:38.246 Like Star Trek. 00:29:38.686 --> 00:29:41.006 It's like Star Trek. 00:29:41.026 --> 00:29:47.506 Or things that are heavily like take heavy inspiration from Star Wars, but are not Star Wars. 00:29:47.946 --> 00:29:51.226 Oh, so you mean like the burlesque show, A Nude Hope? 00:29:51.586 --> 00:29:55.206 Yes, the burlesque show, A Nude Hope is canon now. 00:29:55.226 --> 00:29:56.066 Is canon. 00:29:56.246 --> 00:29:57.066 This week at least. 00:29:57.086 --> 00:29:58.006 We're just doing it for this week. 00:29:58.026 --> 00:29:59.326 It's just for this week, don't worry. 00:29:59.346 --> 00:30:06.946 I think there's lots of bad sci-fi movies that are just clearly like, man, we want to do Star Wars, but they don't really know how to do Star Wars. 00:30:07.626 --> 00:30:08.886 Is our canon now. 00:30:08.906 --> 00:30:12.806 Is Stranger Things canon in the Star Wars universe for this week? 00:30:12.826 --> 00:30:14.766 Yeah, probably, honestly. 00:30:14.866 --> 00:30:16.506 Like, I could see it. 00:30:17.286 --> 00:30:19.646 Jupiter Sending's canon in Star Wars now. 00:30:19.746 --> 00:30:20.406 Oh, good. 00:30:20.426 --> 00:30:23.326 It's not even that close to Star Wars, but they're in space, so. 00:30:23.766 --> 00:30:25.566 Is She-Ra canon in Star Wars? 00:30:26.066 --> 00:30:38.906 She-Ra is, so my roommate and I actually were discussing, we were talking about Star Wars and how there's lots of stuff in She-Ra that if we were to apply it to Star Wars, we could make Star Wars better. 00:30:39.726 --> 00:30:42.786 So yes, She-Ra's canon in Star Wars now. 00:30:43.106 --> 00:30:46.326 I mean, you could generally apply a lot to Star Wars to make it better. 00:30:46.406 --> 00:30:47.106 Agreed. 00:30:47.286 --> 00:30:52.466 Listen, I got some thoughts on some characters in Star Wars and how to improve them. 00:30:53.206 --> 00:30:55.146 Step one, Raze and Trapta now. 00:30:55.946 --> 00:30:56.626 Oh, shit. 00:30:56.706 --> 00:30:57.706 Which is really good. 00:30:57.806 --> 00:31:03.086 Anyway, we've improved Star Wars by disseminating the idea of Star Wars. 00:31:03.126 --> 00:31:06.646 I think some of the Star Wars Extended Universe stuff is canon, for example. 00:31:07.286 --> 00:31:08.326 Can I throw one in? 00:31:08.426 --> 00:31:16.006 So like, I never actually finished this trilogy of books, but there was one trilogy of books, the Darth Bane series. 00:31:16.206 --> 00:31:18.006 I've heard really good things about Darth Bane. 00:31:18.026 --> 00:31:20.506 Yeah, he's like, I read it a long time ago. 00:31:20.526 --> 00:31:24.086 I don't know if it stands up to the test of time, but he's like really messed up. 00:31:24.106 --> 00:31:32.666 And like, it's kind of just fun to read the point, like the strongest Sith in the universe sort of point of view. 00:31:32.786 --> 00:31:33.086 Yeah. 00:31:33.106 --> 00:31:39.726 Because all we ever get in media is like, oh, the Jedi and the space Catholics have won again, yay. 00:31:40.126 --> 00:31:42.366 Yeah, it's boring. 00:31:43.706 --> 00:31:56.046 My personal favorite piece of Star Wars media is the 501st by Karen Travis, which is actually the fourth or fifth book in a series of stories about clone troopers. 00:31:56.706 --> 00:32:11.186 And after the Empire rises power, some become part of like Darth Vader's special crew and others desert and go to Mandalore and like try and figure out how to stop their like fast aging process. 00:32:11.206 --> 00:32:14.406 And it's a story about chosen family and clone troopers. 00:32:14.426 --> 00:32:17.086 And that makes my heart hurt when I think about it. 00:32:17.106 --> 00:32:18.186 And I love it a lot. 00:32:18.746 --> 00:32:19.886 I want to read that one. 00:32:19.906 --> 00:32:21.726 That's probably more wholesome than Darth Bane. 00:32:22.906 --> 00:32:25.806 It's a lot better than anything else that Star Wars has ever made. 00:32:26.506 --> 00:32:27.646 I realized a while back- 00:32:27.666 --> 00:32:29.006 So that one's always canon. 00:32:29.026 --> 00:32:30.006 That one's always canon, baby. 00:32:30.026 --> 00:32:32.166 And this is the new system we're making. 00:32:32.186 --> 00:32:40.286 Honestly, I just want anything in Star Wars where a woman made it to be canon because women are so much better at writing Star Wars. 00:32:40.506 --> 00:32:42.506 Rowling's gonna write all the new Star Wars movies. 00:32:47.126 --> 00:32:49.126 I don't know why my brain just instantly went to Star Wars. 00:32:49.186 --> 00:32:50.666 Do Star Wars raise a turf now? 00:32:50.686 --> 00:32:56.066 Rise of the turf. 00:32:58.346 --> 00:32:59.266 A new turf. 00:32:59.526 --> 00:33:00.906 The turf strikes back. 00:33:03.126 --> 00:33:04.226 Return of the turf. 00:33:08.806 --> 00:33:09.146 Oh. 00:33:10.206 --> 00:33:11.386 The Jedi would be turfs. 00:33:12.266 --> 00:33:14.246 Are Sith trans? 00:33:16.426 --> 00:33:20.246 Listen, everyone in Star Wars is transphobes, except the Grey Jedi. 00:33:21.866 --> 00:33:24.886 I've only read one thing about the Grey Jedi. 00:33:25.026 --> 00:33:25.966 They're rad. 00:33:25.966 --> 00:33:29.146 They're kind of like, hey, turns out you need to have feelings. 00:33:29.166 --> 00:33:35.086 Turns out you can't just say one method of morality and then just apply it to everything. 00:33:35.166 --> 00:33:35.506 Yeah. 00:33:36.006 --> 00:33:39.486 The Grey Jedi are just like, turns out the Force does care about your feelings. 00:33:40.946 --> 00:33:41.786 Even sad. 00:33:42.386 --> 00:33:43.166 Even sad. 00:33:43.186 --> 00:33:44.186 You can feel sad. 00:33:44.206 --> 00:33:46.646 Wow, Jedi, you can fucking feel sad. 00:33:46.666 --> 00:33:51.046 Anyway, we need to stop talking about Star Wars because I will just go the fuck off. 00:33:52.326 --> 00:34:01.446 Well, in order to make sure Brianna doesn't go off, because that's not what she's been doing for the past while, is I'm going to... 00:34:01.466 --> 00:34:02.286 The past episode? 00:34:02.306 --> 00:34:03.806 The whole episode so far. 00:34:03.826 --> 00:34:06.166 We went from copyright into Star Wars. 00:34:06.346 --> 00:34:07.746 There is no hope. 00:34:07.766 --> 00:34:14.806 So I'm going to rein it in with, with my second craving, because my second craving is a little softer. 00:34:14.826 --> 00:34:19.026 It's recognizing that logic without empathy is impractical. 00:34:19.646 --> 00:34:22.106 Damn, just like in Star Wars. 00:34:22.486 --> 00:34:33.566 See, the problem with Jedi is that they are so obsessed with the idea of order and balance and like all these things, but they don't actually know what any of it means. 00:34:33.746 --> 00:34:41.806 And they just believe that like pushing your feelings down and repression is the right way of doing things, and that's what balance means. 00:34:41.826 --> 00:34:43.046 But that's not what balance means. 00:34:43.066 --> 00:34:46.006 Balance means recognizing all of your feelings, and sis, don't get that either. 00:34:49.986 --> 00:34:52.026 Logic without empathy is bad. 00:34:52.186 --> 00:34:54.046 I mean, you basically summed it up. 00:34:54.166 --> 00:35:07.766 The Jedi are basically the philosophy dude bros who will argue how like, oh, well, if you set an orphanage on fire, at least it's less mouths to feed. 00:35:08.166 --> 00:35:10.786 Yeah, it's, I mean, it's utilitarianism. 00:35:10.846 --> 00:35:12.366 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:35:12.386 --> 00:35:21.486 Like the idea of utilitarianism, like I don't, I'm not like, I'm a mathematician, not a philosopher, which is like one step less hated. 00:35:24.206 --> 00:35:26.506 I'm a mathematician, not a philosopher. 00:35:26.726 --> 00:35:28.606 I don't know. 00:35:29.126 --> 00:35:39.026 The number of people I encounter who will make these arguments, which basically just be like, well, we have to ignore our feelings when we talk about logic. 00:35:39.086 --> 00:35:45.566 It's like, but if you ignore your feelings, you're going to end up with the logical conclusion that people don't matter. 00:35:45.586 --> 00:35:52.606 Yeah, and the thing is, is like, well, okay, if we're not talking about feelings, then what are we talking about? 00:35:52.626 --> 00:35:57.526 Because the crucial nature of humanity is feelings. 00:35:57.566 --> 00:36:01.046 Yeah, and like a lot of logical axioms stem from feelings. 00:36:01.106 --> 00:36:07.606 So if you try to remove feelings from like, from logic, you're basically removing your fundamental grounding of any logic. 00:36:07.646 --> 00:36:13.666 Unless, unless, like, like, for example, utilitarianism is like maximize happiness, right? 00:36:13.866 --> 00:36:17.026 Without feelings, the fuck are you maximizing? 00:36:17.046 --> 00:36:19.326 There's no happiness without feelings. 00:36:19.346 --> 00:36:24.146 Right, you have to like understand what causes happiness in order to like maximize it. 00:36:24.286 --> 00:36:34.646 And I mean, at the core of it is this prioritization of a specific sort of way of relating to the world. 00:36:34.666 --> 00:36:41.526 Yeah, like if I can make an argument, quote unquote, without feelings, my argument is more valid. 00:36:41.766 --> 00:36:43.706 And also there is no argument without feelings. 00:36:43.766 --> 00:36:48.286 Exactly, but that's why I put them super, like maybe I should have put them in bigger quotes. 00:36:48.306 --> 00:36:53.546 Maybe I should have stretched the quotes out and just encompass the entire words with quotes, but that's what I mean. 00:36:53.566 --> 00:36:58.246 Yeah, so I feel you so hard. 00:36:58.266 --> 00:36:59.106 You have some feelings? 00:36:59.986 --> 00:37:02.586 Can we make some conclusions with these feelings? 00:37:02.686 --> 00:37:03.946 I would love to make some conclusions. 00:37:03.966 --> 00:37:06.066 Let's conclude some solutions. 00:37:06.626 --> 00:37:13.126 Well, my solution is we simply need to fix society. 00:37:13.486 --> 00:37:14.046 Oh, okay. 00:37:15.026 --> 00:37:16.626 So, Star Wars? 00:37:18.426 --> 00:37:18.846 I mean... 00:37:18.866 --> 00:37:20.666 So we're gonna start a new resistance. 00:37:22.286 --> 00:37:36.906 The thing is, I want media that recognizes that feelings exist more, and that feelings are an impetus, are a core of human experience, and that there is no logic without feelings. 00:37:36.966 --> 00:37:42.446 I think we talk about the same five topics a lot, but Frankenstein is kind of an excellent example of this. 00:37:42.486 --> 00:37:43.586 Frankenstein is an excellent... 00:37:43.586 --> 00:37:49.206 I mean, I can go through the topics that we talk about, and I'm gonna have each of them are examples of this. 00:37:49.986 --> 00:38:01.266 Frankenstein is a story of like, oh, yes, science for science's sake, and the problems that that creates when you are not prepared to take responsibility for the things that you've done. 00:38:01.666 --> 00:38:05.766 It's the classic, like, you thought so hard about whether or not you could. 00:38:05.946 --> 00:38:14.246 You didn't stop to think about whether or not you were emotionally prepared to care for another human being that you are creating out of nothing, you piece of shit. 00:38:14.586 --> 00:38:19.706 Listen, Frankenstein, the creature in that, deserved better. 00:38:19.986 --> 00:38:20.966 That's a good example. 00:38:21.306 --> 00:38:23.966 And I think in general, this comes up so often with science. 00:38:24.286 --> 00:38:27.766 It's like people being like, oh, well, it's all just about science. 00:38:28.286 --> 00:38:29.706 Science doesn't matter about feelings. 00:38:29.726 --> 00:38:32.346 I'm like, feelings are chemicals. 00:38:32.706 --> 00:38:33.806 Feelings are science. 00:38:34.166 --> 00:38:36.106 Feelings are also our science. 00:38:36.446 --> 00:38:46.986 Yeah, I mean, when I was in a lot of maths classes, the argument you'd always hear is like, it doesn't really matter how bad you want a good mark. 00:38:47.226 --> 00:38:59.326 You're gonna get the mark that you deserve because there's only right and wrong in mathematics, which is kind of wrong when you start to get down to the really nitty-gritty. 00:38:59.346 --> 00:39:02.686 Yeah, you can do an integral wrong, but hey, let's start. 00:39:02.686 --> 00:39:06.766 And it does edge on, once you start to get into the philosophical mathematics... 00:39:08.286 --> 00:39:11.466 The philosophical mathematics is also the name of my favorite band. 00:39:13.226 --> 00:39:18.566 So all of this is true, and we know that feelings are important and that there's no logic without empathy. 00:39:18.586 --> 00:39:20.046 So we're going to have a feelings gun? 00:39:20.066 --> 00:39:21.486 So what's the... 00:39:23.486 --> 00:39:27.386 I was about to ask, what's the funny answer to this? 00:39:27.486 --> 00:39:28.246 Pew pew! 00:39:28.706 --> 00:39:30.386 You don't need to take your meds today. 00:39:30.406 --> 00:39:32.526 I mean, a feelings gun. 00:39:32.546 --> 00:39:33.426 Didn't we already create this? 00:39:33.446 --> 00:39:34.606 We created a feelings gun. 00:39:34.686 --> 00:39:36.206 All right, let's break it out of the vault. 00:39:36.266 --> 00:39:37.286 Break it out of the vault. 00:39:37.306 --> 00:39:42.886 Welcome to the Disney vault, where you can get your classics for only $19.99. 00:39:42.906 --> 00:39:48.646 Here on Salt Cravings, we like to open the Disney vault, where we keep all our archaic cravings. 00:39:48.706 --> 00:39:58.526 Yes, and here we have a feelings gun, and we're going to shoot it at these logic-obsessed assholes to make them feel things. 00:39:58.546 --> 00:40:01.926 So under utilitarianism, we're just going to set this happiness... 00:40:02.186 --> 00:40:07.266 We're going to set the feelings gun to happiness, and then we're just going to like sort of spray it up in the air. 00:40:07.706 --> 00:40:08.126 Okay. 00:40:08.146 --> 00:40:09.186 What if it's like a hose? 00:40:10.246 --> 00:40:12.526 What if we put happiness in the drinking water? 00:40:12.926 --> 00:40:14.086 Yeah, this is the thing. 00:40:14.106 --> 00:40:16.206 What if we put happiness in the drinking water? 00:40:16.206 --> 00:40:20.006 Dude, a game came out with this pretty much fucking exact concept. 00:40:22.966 --> 00:40:23.786 We Happy Few. 00:40:24.406 --> 00:40:25.366 Oh, I don't know that one. 00:40:25.386 --> 00:40:26.346 It's a gearbox game. 00:40:26.366 --> 00:40:27.626 It came out a couple of years ago. 00:40:27.846 --> 00:40:28.286 Cool. 00:40:28.466 --> 00:40:30.406 I don't know that it always needs to be happiness, right? 00:40:30.426 --> 00:40:32.526 Because sometimes people need to feel other things. 00:40:32.546 --> 00:40:35.226 Oh, of course, but I was just going under utilitarianism. 00:40:35.846 --> 00:40:36.526 I don't know that... 00:40:36.666 --> 00:40:38.406 I give a shit about utilitarianism. 00:40:38.426 --> 00:40:39.486 Neither do I. 00:40:40.506 --> 00:40:41.546 Wow, finally someone said it. 00:40:42.146 --> 00:40:44.986 I can't believe no one else has said that ever until this exact point. 00:40:45.126 --> 00:40:46.546 God, exactly, right? 00:40:46.746 --> 00:40:50.906 If you really want to feel like, hey, fuck utilitarianism, watch The Good Place. 00:40:54.026 --> 00:41:04.886 But the thing is about this is we need to use the feelings gun strategically to make people's arguments about, oh yeah, logic, logic, logic. 00:41:05.106 --> 00:41:06.246 We need to make them break down. 00:41:06.926 --> 00:41:08.286 What if we make... 00:41:08.306 --> 00:41:20.666 So I'm talking like snipers with a feeling gun in the middle of like university talks where they're just like, and actually this shows that feelings don't matter. 00:41:20.686 --> 00:41:25.086 And just start crying in the middle of the presentation. 00:41:25.106 --> 00:41:27.246 And that's how we prove that feelings matter. 00:41:27.586 --> 00:41:32.246 UBC invites Megan Murphy to talk again back at their campus. 00:41:36.406 --> 00:41:40.266 And we set up the sniper in order to make Megan Murphy feel empathy. 00:41:40.746 --> 00:41:43.786 Wow, I wonder if she's ever felt that before. 00:41:46.486 --> 00:41:49.626 Yeah, I feel that that's a good use of this. 00:41:49.766 --> 00:42:04.726 But how do we convince the general everyday person that logic and feelings are really intertwined other than explaining this whole thing to them or shooting them with a feelings gun? 00:42:05.006 --> 00:42:11.146 What if we just draw a Venn diagram and there's just logic and feelings and it's just a circle? 00:42:11.166 --> 00:42:16.886 And it's a graph so people know that it's legit. 00:42:16.906 --> 00:42:18.646 If you animate it, that's how you know it's real. 00:42:18.666 --> 00:42:19.786 Can we make it infographic? 00:42:19.806 --> 00:42:21.046 Yeah, we're gonna make it infographic. 00:42:21.066 --> 00:42:23.826 If we make it infographic, everyone will put it on Facebook? 00:42:23.846 --> 00:42:26.066 Yeah, and you know it's real if it's on Facebook. 00:42:26.086 --> 00:42:26.926 And it's an infographic. 00:42:27.306 --> 00:42:29.306 Facebook never lets lies get spread. 00:42:29.386 --> 00:42:31.726 And certainly not in the form of infographics. 00:42:31.746 --> 00:42:33.966 Yeah, definitely not in the form of infographics. 00:42:35.726 --> 00:42:36.626 This is brilliant. 00:42:36.646 --> 00:42:41.486 It's just like we should just launch an overall campaign. 00:42:41.506 --> 00:42:43.426 I think, okay, wait, wait, wait. 00:42:43.446 --> 00:42:44.386 On social media. 00:42:44.406 --> 00:42:46.306 I think I have some exposure in my closet. 00:42:46.526 --> 00:42:48.126 Which artist are we hiring? 00:42:48.146 --> 00:42:50.406 I think I can pay them some exposure. 00:42:53.926 --> 00:42:58.766 We can hire our friends to do it and pay them an exposure because we're bad friends. 00:43:00.466 --> 00:43:03.466 Or we can get Banksy to do it. 00:43:03.486 --> 00:43:04.886 People like Banksy. 00:43:05.546 --> 00:43:07.026 He does things for the exposure. 00:43:07.046 --> 00:43:08.366 Do we know who Banksy is? 00:43:08.746 --> 00:43:09.986 Did we ever figure it out? 00:43:10.146 --> 00:43:13.606 No one knows who Banksy is, but I bet we could find out. 00:43:15.126 --> 00:43:18.726 I bet if we were like, hey Banksy, do you want to make us an infocrat? 00:43:18.926 --> 00:43:20.386 We have some exposure. 00:43:20.406 --> 00:43:21.526 Your favorite thing. 00:43:21.546 --> 00:43:28.326 Do you want to make us an infographic about how logic and feelings are intertwined? 00:43:28.346 --> 00:43:31.006 What's the Banksy image of this? 00:43:31.066 --> 00:43:35.566 Is it just like a bear hugging like a tree or something? 00:43:35.926 --> 00:43:37.126 Yeah, or it's like... 00:43:37.146 --> 00:43:40.866 It's a brain, and the brain is licking a popsicle. 00:43:40.886 --> 00:43:41.886 Oh, I know what it is. 00:43:41.946 --> 00:43:45.046 It's a brain, but a heart is exploding out of the brain. 00:43:46.086 --> 00:43:47.126 It's so deep. 00:43:47.146 --> 00:43:47.246 It's so deep. 00:43:47.306 --> 00:43:49.126 It's so deep, if you think about it. 00:43:49.726 --> 00:43:51.746 Logic and feelings are connected. 00:43:51.926 --> 00:43:53.886 Oh, Banksy has fucking done it again. 00:43:53.906 --> 00:43:56.346 Wow, $6.5 million on the auction. 00:43:58.506 --> 00:43:59.546 Art is resistance. 00:43:59.986 --> 00:44:05.566 I'm so glad that we've conveyed that logic and feelings are actually just the same thing. 00:44:05.646 --> 00:44:07.966 Yeah, there's no such thing as logic without feelings. 00:44:07.986 --> 00:44:12.386 There's no such thing as feelings without logic, and therefore, they're always the same. 00:44:12.606 --> 00:44:14.206 They're completely indistinguishable. 00:44:14.446 --> 00:44:16.226 There's no meaning of either of the terms. 00:44:16.246 --> 00:44:19.606 Let's just call it brains with a Z. 00:44:19.626 --> 00:44:20.986 Logic, lilings. 00:44:21.506 --> 00:44:22.746 I'm all up in my lilings. 00:44:23.966 --> 00:44:26.046 I'm all up in my lilings in my brains. 00:44:26.046 --> 00:44:31.626 Do you want to take us out with the last one? 00:44:31.646 --> 00:44:34.326 Take us both out, please. 00:44:34.406 --> 00:44:34.806 End this. 00:44:36.906 --> 00:44:38.826 Please, get the sniper. 00:44:38.846 --> 00:44:39.746 That's a little... 00:44:39.766 --> 00:44:42.846 Please, I want to feel empathy, Brianna. 00:44:44.046 --> 00:44:45.786 It's been 10 billion years. 00:44:47.406 --> 00:44:48.786 Yeah, okay. 00:44:49.006 --> 00:44:52.986 You know what takes a lot of lilings? 00:44:54.406 --> 00:44:58.706 Is being able to do pointless things in video games. 00:44:59.586 --> 00:45:11.926 So, like, speedrunning exists, and speedrunning is cool, but then you find things, if you're me and you're going down speedrunning rabbit holes, you find things that go beyond speedruns. 00:45:13.146 --> 00:45:16.086 Into just weird ways to complete games. 00:45:16.446 --> 00:45:18.386 The most famous one. 00:45:18.406 --> 00:45:23.226 I'm going to link this in the episode description because I need everyone who hasn't seen it to watch it. 00:45:23.646 --> 00:45:25.626 Half an A press. 00:45:26.506 --> 00:45:27.986 Watch for Rolling Rocks. 00:45:28.466 --> 00:45:29.926 Boom, it rules. 00:45:29.926 --> 00:45:30.506 It's so good. 00:45:32.326 --> 00:45:34.786 Now we have to talk about parallel universes. 00:45:35.026 --> 00:45:35.506 What? 00:45:35.846 --> 00:45:36.486 Have you seen it? 00:45:36.826 --> 00:45:37.266 What? 00:45:37.286 --> 00:45:37.726 No. 00:45:37.746 --> 00:45:43.866 At one point in the video, he's like, because first we have to talk about parallel universes. 00:45:46.226 --> 00:45:48.706 So the half an A press video is very good. 00:45:50.006 --> 00:45:52.166 It's not the only one like it, though. 00:45:52.606 --> 00:45:53.786 It's one of the best. 00:45:53.806 --> 00:45:56.506 I would highly, highly recommend checking it out. 00:45:56.506 --> 00:45:58.986 You will be like, okay, this is a 20-minute video. 00:45:59.186 --> 00:46:00.586 What the hell is this? 00:46:00.786 --> 00:46:03.586 And they'll be watching and be like, oh my God, this makes so much sense. 00:46:03.866 --> 00:46:04.846 But it's all pointless. 00:46:05.106 --> 00:46:06.406 But it's all so interesting. 00:46:06.626 --> 00:46:17.626 The other one that I really enjoy watching is I watch some YouTubers who do stuff like coinless runs of Super Mario games, where they try to get through a specific Mario game without ever collecting a coin. 00:46:19.426 --> 00:46:21.406 Some games it's possible, some games it's not. 00:46:22.006 --> 00:46:33.246 And it's always really interesting to me to try and beat games in ways that they are fully not intended to be beaten, to have these secondary conditions to beating a game. 00:46:33.286 --> 00:46:37.626 And the ways that people often do it are often quite creative, right? 00:46:37.646 --> 00:46:48.166 It's like using the way that the character moves in such a way that you're able to get around a specific thing that you're just supposed to pick up. 00:46:48.486 --> 00:46:50.846 How are we weirdly completing a game, Clair? 00:46:50.866 --> 00:46:52.506 And what game is it? 00:46:52.806 --> 00:46:55.146 So we've both picked up Pokemon recently. 00:46:55.166 --> 00:46:57.706 Yes, we found a way, we found a way! 00:46:57.726 --> 00:46:59.766 We found a way to work it in. 00:47:00.186 --> 00:47:01.846 So we both picked up Pokemon recently. 00:47:02.806 --> 00:47:09.366 Pokemon has a great example of an existing format for completing it in ways that it's not intended to be completed, which is the Nuzlocke. 00:47:10.146 --> 00:47:17.486 Yeah, I mean, I totally forgot that Nuzlocke is definitely a way to complete something for people who don't know what a Nuzlocke is. 00:47:18.306 --> 00:47:23.766 If you've played Pokemon and don't know what a Nuzlocke is, if you faint in the game, you faint in real life. 00:47:24.246 --> 00:47:28.846 If you faint in the game, the Pokemon quote unquote dies, and you can't use it anymore. 00:47:28.866 --> 00:47:29.886 And you have to release it. 00:47:29.906 --> 00:47:30.226 Yeah. 00:47:30.646 --> 00:47:35.506 And then also if your entire team faints, you lose, and you have to just delete the save file. 00:47:35.526 --> 00:47:37.666 Yeah, and there's some other restrictions that make it harder. 00:47:37.686 --> 00:47:39.346 You can only catch one Pokemon in this area. 00:47:40.806 --> 00:47:45.466 So when we say completing Pokemon, are we saying do the eight gems and do the champion? 00:47:45.786 --> 00:47:47.026 Like, is that completing? 00:47:47.026 --> 00:47:47.946 Yes, it is. 00:47:48.906 --> 00:47:51.206 It's, at least by Nuzlocke rules, it is. 00:47:51.606 --> 00:47:57.486 And by generally, like, yes, we're talking about defeating the champion, getting through the Elite Four, et cetera. 00:47:57.666 --> 00:47:58.046 Cool. 00:47:58.406 --> 00:47:59.486 I have had a great idea. 00:48:00.726 --> 00:48:03.506 We just have to beat Pokemon without using any Pokemon. 00:48:04.106 --> 00:48:05.266 Oh, okay. 00:48:05.286 --> 00:48:09.266 So, like, when you first start the game, and they're like, don't go in the tall grass. 00:48:09.286 --> 00:48:10.786 You don't. 00:48:10.806 --> 00:48:12.466 Because you don't have any Pokemon. 00:48:12.486 --> 00:48:19.146 You just know you don't ever go in the tall grass, and you just, like, punch everything with your bare hands. 00:48:19.726 --> 00:48:24.206 So it's you first have to clip past the tall grass. 00:48:25.046 --> 00:48:26.786 You're gonna have to clip past a lot of things. 00:48:27.286 --> 00:48:28.666 Yeah, but every time... 00:48:28.686 --> 00:48:29.946 Oh, excuse me, behind you. 00:48:30.006 --> 00:48:31.786 Yeah, yeah, just go through the tall... 00:48:31.806 --> 00:48:34.026 I mean, it's even easier in the new Pokemon. 00:48:34.946 --> 00:48:38.106 It's even easier in Sword and Shield, because you can just never encounter a Pokemon. 00:48:38.126 --> 00:48:38.746 That's true. 00:48:39.566 --> 00:48:43.286 Because here's the thing, in the new Pokemon, the champion's just there. 00:48:43.466 --> 00:48:55.626 And so what you do is, like, the champion comes up to you, and it's like, here's your Pokemon, choose your starter Pokemon, and you go, I choose my fist, and you punch the champion, and you steal his cape, and then you're the champion. 00:48:55.626 --> 00:48:57.646 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a really good... 00:48:57.666 --> 00:48:58.626 And that's the end of the game. 00:48:58.646 --> 00:48:59.366 That's the end of the game. 00:48:59.386 --> 00:48:59.746 You did it. 00:48:59.766 --> 00:49:01.366 That's a really good speedruns, Travis. 00:49:01.386 --> 00:49:03.406 What's a different game? 00:49:04.026 --> 00:49:05.806 Um, yeah, what is a different game? 00:49:05.826 --> 00:49:06.306 There's lots of games. 00:49:06.606 --> 00:49:09.846 How would you create complete Sonic in a weird way? 00:49:09.866 --> 00:49:11.146 Okay, so this is the thing. 00:49:11.586 --> 00:49:18.066 I've never actually completed a Sonic game other than Sonic Adventures 2, which is not like your normal Sonic game. 00:49:18.086 --> 00:49:19.606 Let's talk Sonic Adventures 2. 00:49:19.846 --> 00:49:27.966 And by Sonic Adventures 2, of course, I mean Sonic Adventure 2, which is actually the name of it. 00:49:28.606 --> 00:49:31.586 Sonic Adventures 2 is a great game, and I love how much it bugs Brianna. 00:49:31.606 --> 00:49:33.786 I like Sonic Adventure 2. 00:49:33.806 --> 00:49:35.646 I love Sonic Adventures 2, too. 00:49:39.326 --> 00:49:40.186 You can hear it. 00:49:40.246 --> 00:49:40.966 It's great. 00:49:41.126 --> 00:49:41.706 It hurts. 00:49:41.966 --> 00:49:43.726 It hurts me. 00:49:43.986 --> 00:49:46.006 So I think in Sonic Adventures 2... 00:49:46.026 --> 00:49:58.726 So the rest of the podcast is me just saying this title over and over again, hurting Brianna. 00:49:59.046 --> 00:50:00.286 But you play as different characters. 00:50:00.306 --> 00:50:06.046 You play as Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow, what is the bat's name? 00:50:06.606 --> 00:50:08.606 Rouge. 00:50:08.846 --> 00:50:09.326 Eggman? 00:50:09.446 --> 00:50:10.466 Don't you play as Eggman? 00:50:10.486 --> 00:50:11.766 Yeah, you do play as Eggman. 00:50:13.406 --> 00:50:14.386 In Dark Story. 00:50:14.386 --> 00:50:15.346 And the robot. 00:50:15.446 --> 00:50:16.866 You play as the robot as well, right? 00:50:16.886 --> 00:50:18.326 Yeah, E-102. 00:50:18.346 --> 00:50:19.706 I think that's Omega. 00:50:19.726 --> 00:50:20.306 Yeah, Omega. 00:50:20.326 --> 00:50:20.626 That was it. 00:50:21.286 --> 00:50:22.426 Where were those numbers? 00:50:22.446 --> 00:50:24.246 You just pulled numbers out of nowhere. 00:50:24.266 --> 00:50:26.166 I don't know that those are the right numbers. 00:50:26.706 --> 00:50:29.326 But it is like an E-10 something. 00:50:30.946 --> 00:50:32.306 Listen, I know a lot about Sonic. 00:50:32.326 --> 00:50:34.386 You know Sonic Adventures 2 and Sadden Out. 00:50:34.746 --> 00:50:37.206 I mean, Omega is a recurring character in the Sonic series. 00:50:37.266 --> 00:50:37.966 That's true. 00:50:38.046 --> 00:50:40.886 Anyway, point is, so you play as multiple characters. 00:50:41.286 --> 00:50:42.906 But what if you don't? 00:50:43.106 --> 00:50:44.346 What if you just play as one of them? 00:50:44.366 --> 00:50:50.106 What if you have to find the glitch that lets you play only as Tails? 00:50:50.786 --> 00:50:51.946 Ooh, I like this. 00:50:51.966 --> 00:50:55.706 Because see, people would think that you would just play as Sonic. 00:50:55.766 --> 00:50:56.726 That's too easy. 00:50:56.746 --> 00:50:57.326 Too easy. 00:50:57.386 --> 00:50:57.986 Too easy. 00:50:58.006 --> 00:51:00.086 You gotta play as Tails only. 00:51:00.906 --> 00:51:03.286 And Tails is like in a mech in this game, right? 00:51:03.306 --> 00:51:12.386 So you know all these games like Tails' Symphonia, Tails' Vesperia, none of them are actually like games that are about anything other than Tails from Sonic the Hedgehog. 00:51:13.086 --> 00:51:14.986 What if you could play as Tails in every game? 00:51:15.386 --> 00:51:18.046 Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, this is a new run. 00:51:18.066 --> 00:51:20.426 It's like Mario, but you play as Tails. 00:51:20.446 --> 00:51:26.346 Yeah, in every game, you play as Tails' Miles Prowler. 00:51:26.726 --> 00:51:28.266 Damn, you know all of his names. 00:51:28.446 --> 00:51:35.486 I mean, I know his name because his name is ridiculous because his full name is Miles Prowler, which is meant to be a pun on miles per hour. 00:51:41.226 --> 00:51:42.886 Tails Miles Prowler Fox. 00:51:43.086 --> 00:51:45.326 How fast is Tails Miles Prowler? 00:51:46.066 --> 00:51:47.906 69 miles per hour. 00:51:47.906 --> 00:51:48.286 Nice. 00:51:49.226 --> 00:51:52.906 But yeah, you have to play as Tails in every game, and it can be Tails in different forms. 00:51:53.186 --> 00:52:05.226 You can have Tails in the mech that he's in in Sonic Adventure 2, or you could have Tails in the form that he's in in literally every other Sonic game because the only game where Tails is in a mech is Sonic Adventure 2, and they never repeat that for some reason. 00:52:05.446 --> 00:52:06.746 Tails in a plane. 00:52:07.126 --> 00:52:08.786 They do have Tails in a plane sometimes. 00:52:09.146 --> 00:52:11.926 So you can play things like Pilotwings or whatever. 00:52:12.126 --> 00:52:12.866 Oh, damn. 00:52:12.926 --> 00:52:13.586 But your Tails. 00:52:13.606 --> 00:52:14.666 Tails should be in Smash. 00:52:14.886 --> 00:52:17.306 Tails should be in Smash, genuinely. 00:52:17.426 --> 00:52:18.986 Can you imagine a move set for Tails? 00:52:19.006 --> 00:52:19.286 What? 00:52:19.346 --> 00:52:19.966 But in the mech. 00:52:20.266 --> 00:52:21.366 Final Smash is the mech. 00:52:21.806 --> 00:52:22.786 Final Smash is the mech. 00:52:22.806 --> 00:52:23.386 That makes sense. 00:52:23.746 --> 00:52:24.526 That makes sense. 00:52:24.946 --> 00:52:30.306 I think that this is really good because then you get games like, you know, we talked about Master Chief earlier. 00:52:30.686 --> 00:52:34.086 Master Chief was the other one who was in our crew that we forgot about. 00:52:34.106 --> 00:52:35.306 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:52:35.326 --> 00:52:37.346 He was off doing Master Chief things. 00:52:38.066 --> 00:52:39.366 He's never that reliable. 00:52:39.386 --> 00:52:41.806 He left the franchise for like an entire game. 00:52:41.806 --> 00:52:44.966 Which is why we don't need him anymore because we have Tails in Halo. 00:52:44.986 --> 00:52:45.566 Yeah. 00:52:45.986 --> 00:52:47.206 Tails has a gun now. 00:52:47.266 --> 00:52:48.206 Tails of Halo. 00:52:48.266 --> 00:52:48.786 The new... 00:52:49.566 --> 00:52:52.686 Why am I forgetting the company that makes Tails of Symphonia? 00:52:52.706 --> 00:52:53.806 It's like Ark. 00:52:53.886 --> 00:52:54.386 Arcus? 00:52:54.826 --> 00:52:55.246 Sure. 00:52:55.346 --> 00:52:55.726 Yeah. 00:52:56.566 --> 00:52:57.146 Arceus? 00:52:57.246 --> 00:52:59.186 Yeah, it's Arceus, the Pokemon. 00:52:59.206 --> 00:53:00.486 I can't wait for Tails to be in Pokemon. 00:53:00.506 --> 00:53:04.546 Not only did Arceus make all the Pokemon, Arceus made all the video games. 00:53:04.966 --> 00:53:06.446 Yes, that makes sense. 00:53:06.626 --> 00:53:10.446 Also, Tails is in Pokemon now, which is maybe a better way to complete the Pokemon. 00:53:10.466 --> 00:53:13.106 So is Tails the trainer or the Pokemon? 00:53:13.306 --> 00:53:14.406 Tails is both. 00:53:14.426 --> 00:53:15.666 Tails is like... 00:53:15.686 --> 00:53:19.826 Okay, so Tails is the trainer, and you have a team of all Tails, and this is how you complete Pokemon. 00:53:20.006 --> 00:53:21.146 Yes, exactly. 00:53:21.166 --> 00:53:28.086 And it's seven Tails going up to the champion and beating him up, taking his cape, and then sitting on the throne. 00:53:28.106 --> 00:53:31.626 And they're all just like, Hi, Sonic! 00:53:31.646 --> 00:53:32.246 Hi, Sonic! 00:53:32.266 --> 00:53:32.706 Hi, Sonic! 00:53:32.726 --> 00:53:32.906 Hi, Sonic! 00:53:32.926 --> 00:53:33.366 Hi, Sonic! 00:53:36.046 --> 00:53:38.366 Any other really good games for Tails to be in? 00:53:38.786 --> 00:53:40.086 I mean, he's in all of them now. 00:53:40.106 --> 00:53:41.126 He's in all of the games. 00:53:41.246 --> 00:53:45.126 So, is there any others that you'd like to spotlight the Tails run for? 00:53:45.666 --> 00:53:47.386 So, maybe like what... 00:53:47.526 --> 00:53:50.486 You know in Sonic Adventures 2 where you would... 00:53:52.666 --> 00:53:54.106 Sonic Adventures 2, where you... 00:53:59.206 --> 00:54:00.526 I don't know why. 00:54:00.546 --> 00:54:01.686 It doesn't make sense. 00:54:02.786 --> 00:54:04.446 Because there's multiple adventures. 00:54:04.466 --> 00:54:06.286 They're all going on adventures. 00:54:07.506 --> 00:54:11.426 They're all going on fun adventures, and they're having friend time. 00:54:13.246 --> 00:54:14.566 There's many different adventures. 00:54:14.586 --> 00:54:16.146 They're missions in one adventure. 00:54:16.206 --> 00:54:22.706 It's a story about an adventure, but I will admit there is Sonic Adventure and also Sonic Adventure 2, so that is two adventures. 00:54:22.726 --> 00:54:25.446 There's two adventures, at the least. 00:54:25.466 --> 00:54:28.586 I understand, but that's also not how subtitles work. 00:54:28.606 --> 00:54:29.686 Anyway, point is... 00:54:29.786 --> 00:54:30.926 What were you saying? 00:54:30.946 --> 00:54:36.866 There's Chao Garden in Sonic Adventure 2, and so you can go in as Tails. 00:54:40.546 --> 00:54:45.106 So what if you speed run getting your perfect Chao? 00:54:45.406 --> 00:54:45.846 Right. 00:54:46.186 --> 00:54:47.246 That seems possible. 00:54:47.326 --> 00:54:50.486 Where you just, like, you feed it lion. 00:54:50.786 --> 00:54:54.606 There's, like, lion DNA you can feed in that game or whatever. 00:54:54.626 --> 00:54:56.106 I don't know. 00:54:56.126 --> 00:54:59.146 There's, like, elephant and leopard and demon and angel. 00:54:59.166 --> 00:55:01.026 Oh yeah, all the animals. 00:55:02.266 --> 00:55:10.126 Demon, elephant, leopard, bat, demon, angel, tiger. 00:55:10.146 --> 00:55:12.646 Yeah, and I just... 00:55:12.926 --> 00:55:17.346 The reason I want Sonic Adventure 2 to come up, you're like, yeah, okay. 00:55:18.066 --> 00:55:20.946 The reason I want SA2 to, like... 00:55:20.966 --> 00:55:22.026 Okay, we found it. 00:55:22.046 --> 00:55:22.606 We found it. 00:55:22.886 --> 00:55:23.946 Sa-Satu. 00:55:24.226 --> 00:55:29.726 The reason I want Saatu's mechanics in other games is really just Chao Garden. 00:55:29.926 --> 00:55:31.506 Chao Garden is really, really good. 00:55:31.666 --> 00:55:40.846 Because it's, like, you can make them little angel elephants or demon elephants or angel leopards or whatever, but this has never returned. 00:55:40.906 --> 00:55:43.766 I want Chao Garden back, and I want it in every game. 00:55:44.086 --> 00:55:48.226 So what if Tails is just followed around by Chao in every game? 00:55:48.626 --> 00:55:49.866 He has the Chao crew. 00:55:50.146 --> 00:55:51.086 It's Chao time. 00:55:51.506 --> 00:55:52.866 It's Chao time for Tails. 00:55:53.666 --> 00:55:55.146 And then he eats the champion? 00:55:57.446 --> 00:56:01.566 Nah, he eats wonderful curry in the new game Pokemon Sword and Shield. 00:56:01.646 --> 00:56:04.326 Sour, precooked beef burger curry. 00:56:04.526 --> 00:56:06.426 Yep, Tails' favorite. 00:56:06.446 --> 00:56:07.566 It's my favorite curry. 00:56:07.966 --> 00:56:08.626 Are you Tails? 00:56:08.826 --> 00:56:09.726 Yeah, I'm Tails. 00:56:09.946 --> 00:56:11.426 Wow, Tails is in reality, too. 00:56:11.486 --> 00:56:13.826 You can now play as Tails, and if you're Clair. 00:56:16.006 --> 00:56:18.486 I play as Tails every day of my life. 00:56:18.826 --> 00:56:20.546 Do you want to end the life now? 00:56:20.566 --> 00:56:22.306 Like, end by life, I mean podcast? 00:56:22.446 --> 00:56:27.486 I was trying to find a segue into the end, but I'm too sick to do it. 00:56:27.706 --> 00:56:34.266 Blessed listeners, Clair has had to cut out so many coughs this entire podcast. 00:56:36.686 --> 00:56:37.726 You should send her messages. 00:56:38.726 --> 00:56:45.466 Okay, if she doesn't leave them all in, you should send her messages thanking her for cutting out all of the coughs. 00:56:45.486 --> 00:56:47.086 I'm just gonna leave in one cough. 00:56:47.626 --> 00:56:48.386 Just one? 00:56:48.466 --> 00:56:49.026 Just one. 00:56:49.126 --> 00:56:50.206 And you're gonna have to search for it. 00:56:50.226 --> 00:56:51.506 It's gonna be the softest cough. 00:56:51.686 --> 00:56:52.286 The soft. 00:56:54.906 --> 00:57:02.206 It's the cough right before I die from the consumption, which I assume is what I have right now, because it certainly feels that fucking way. 00:57:02.226 --> 00:57:05.066 It's the cough that infected you from Sonic Adventures 2. 00:57:06.546 --> 00:57:13.486 If you want to find us on the social medias, you can go and search us at Salt Cravings on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. 00:57:14.066 --> 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00:58:28.186 As seen in shots of Yoda plummeting to the Senate, it's a fantastic work.