WEBVTT 00:00:25.595 --> 00:00:27.795 Welcome, please have a seat. 00:00:28.195 --> 00:00:29.635 Oh, thank you, thanks. 00:00:30.075 --> 00:00:31.535 Yeah, I'll just sit here. 00:00:31.755 --> 00:00:42.415 So, I see that you've come in today, we're going to talk about some of your problems you've been having with, it says here, cravings. 00:00:43.375 --> 00:00:45.775 You've been having a cravings addiction. 00:00:45.875 --> 00:00:53.455 Yeah, I don't know that I call it addiction, it's complicated, it's like cravings, and I think it's, you know. 00:00:53.875 --> 00:00:56.095 Do you think about cravings on a daily basis? 00:00:56.355 --> 00:00:59.475 Oh, yeah, you could say that. 00:00:59.775 --> 00:01:01.035 How does that make you feel? 00:01:01.055 --> 00:01:06.695 Oh, it kind of makes me want to like, kind of makes me want to record a podcast or something about them. 00:01:06.715 --> 00:01:08.615 Do you want to share our cravings? 00:01:08.935 --> 00:01:10.435 I think that would be very good. 00:01:10.455 --> 00:01:14.155 I am your therapist today, I am Dr. 00:01:14.155 --> 00:01:22.315 Ross, certified therapist, and you are my therapy, my therapy, theropi, theropi-ster? 00:01:22.435 --> 00:01:25.335 No, theropized, theropized. 00:01:25.495 --> 00:01:26.995 You are my theropized. 00:01:27.195 --> 00:01:30.055 Hi, I'm Brianna, no last names, please. 00:01:32.155 --> 00:01:34.435 While Brianna, no last names, please. 00:01:37.335 --> 00:01:39.495 Is that two names or one name? 00:01:39.515 --> 00:01:40.415 It's all one name. 00:01:40.435 --> 00:01:41.415 It's all one name. 00:01:41.435 --> 00:01:45.035 That's how you have to refer to me from now on. 00:01:46.315 --> 00:01:49.755 We'll miss no last names, please, please. 00:01:49.775 --> 00:01:50.055 Please. 00:01:50.095 --> 00:01:50.675 Mononym. 00:01:56.953 --> 00:01:59.033 What is one of these cravings? 00:01:59.073 --> 00:02:01.173 I would like to hear more about them. 00:02:01.713 --> 00:02:07.033 So, it's kind of complicated to talk about this one because I'm craving craving something. 00:02:07.233 --> 00:02:08.753 I want to crave something. 00:02:08.953 --> 00:02:10.633 I want to crave writing. 00:02:13.713 --> 00:02:17.093 So you're not craving craving, you're craving writing? 00:02:17.313 --> 00:02:18.313 I'm craving. 00:02:18.333 --> 00:02:19.633 Oh. 00:02:19.693 --> 00:02:22.013 Wanting to, I want to crave writing. 00:02:22.033 --> 00:02:23.573 Are you struggling with writer's block? 00:02:23.713 --> 00:02:27.813 It's difficult because it's not writer's block in that I don't know what to write. 00:02:29.093 --> 00:02:32.313 Yeah, I have lots of ideas of what's fun to write. 00:02:32.813 --> 00:02:35.453 And sometimes I get to underwrite them, I'm like, oh yeah, this is fun. 00:02:35.593 --> 00:02:37.833 But a lot of the time I'm like, I don't even think about it. 00:02:37.853 --> 00:02:38.713 I don't crave it. 00:02:38.833 --> 00:02:42.313 I don't need it in the way that I want to need it, you know? 00:02:42.453 --> 00:02:44.613 Cause if I don't need it, then I don't do it. 00:02:44.713 --> 00:02:48.273 Cause there's a lot of other things for me to be doing that are more important. 00:02:48.313 --> 00:02:49.673 And therefore I get no writing done. 00:02:49.713 --> 00:02:50.913 I want to want to write. 00:02:51.133 --> 00:03:01.093 So is this about the lack of serotonin produced when you write, or is this like giving yourself time and like finding the time to sit down and just write? 00:03:01.393 --> 00:03:02.433 A little bit of both. 00:03:02.453 --> 00:03:06.053 The thing that it is, is you have to be in a certain zone. 00:03:06.633 --> 00:03:07.393 The writing zone. 00:03:07.413 --> 00:03:08.853 I'm familiar with the writing zone. 00:03:08.873 --> 00:03:09.573 The writing zone. 00:03:09.593 --> 00:03:11.213 I frequently very often. 00:03:11.293 --> 00:03:13.773 Yeah, it's easier to write if you're in the writing zone. 00:03:13.793 --> 00:03:17.073 We've all gone to the subliminal space that is the writing zone. 00:03:17.093 --> 00:03:18.013 Yeah, we've all gone there. 00:03:18.033 --> 00:03:19.073 Where ideas live. 00:03:19.133 --> 00:03:21.973 Yeah, and I'm having a little bit of trouble getting into the writing zone. 00:03:22.433 --> 00:03:24.933 Well, how are we gonna get into the writing zone? 00:03:25.273 --> 00:03:26.613 I don't know, do we break in? 00:03:26.633 --> 00:03:28.153 Is that how the writing zone works? 00:03:28.313 --> 00:03:31.833 Clair, I think you know a little bit more about the writing zone than I do, clearly. 00:03:32.153 --> 00:03:35.393 Can you tell me, how do we get into the writing zone? 00:03:35.493 --> 00:03:38.593 That's a little tricky, because I actually, I locked my door. 00:03:38.613 --> 00:03:41.493 I threw away the key, actually, just last weekend. 00:03:41.593 --> 00:03:42.933 Well, I was like, you know what? 00:03:42.953 --> 00:03:44.513 I think I'm done writing in my life. 00:03:45.093 --> 00:03:51.733 Oh, so you just had decided, hmm, I don't think I'm ever going to write again for the rest of my life. 00:03:51.853 --> 00:03:59.393 Yeah, I thought, you know, maybe I'll just speak and then, you know, I'll just remember everything I say from that point forward. 00:03:59.413 --> 00:04:03.733 I just thought, you know, I don't need my writing zone key anymore, so I returned it to the library. 00:04:04.053 --> 00:04:10.013 But that's the thing, is once you check the key out of the library, it's one checkout per lifetime. 00:04:10.413 --> 00:04:10.693 Oh. 00:04:10.713 --> 00:04:11.633 So I think I'm done. 00:04:11.653 --> 00:04:13.053 I think I can't write anymore. 00:04:13.193 --> 00:04:15.813 Huh, well, I'm glad I checked my key back in. 00:04:15.833 --> 00:04:16.813 That would be bad. 00:04:17.093 --> 00:04:30.153 Now, hypothetically, if one had checked their key back in, but still wanted to write because they didn't realize it was a once a lifetime thing, how would one get into the writing zone in that case? 00:04:30.333 --> 00:04:37.273 Does crossing out every second word in a book in order to create your own sort of story count as writing? 00:04:37.513 --> 00:04:38.633 I would say yes. 00:04:38.933 --> 00:04:39.493 Well, then maybe- 00:04:39.513 --> 00:04:41.273 That's called blackout poetry. 00:04:42.333 --> 00:04:45.353 So maybe we can create like a side door, right? 00:04:45.413 --> 00:04:50.093 We take a book that we like and love and cherish very closely. 00:04:50.113 --> 00:04:51.833 It's a very important ingredient. 00:04:52.133 --> 00:04:55.493 And we destroy it by like creating our own story. 00:04:55.513 --> 00:05:02.773 Because then it's not really, I'm not like writing, I'm like, I'm subwriting, which is definitely a real word. 00:05:02.793 --> 00:05:08.313 Okay, so we have to take a book that we really cherish and appreciate, but still want to destroy. 00:05:08.333 --> 00:05:09.193 Harry Potter. 00:05:10.273 --> 00:05:10.453 Uh. 00:05:10.453 --> 00:05:11.413 I don't cherish it. 00:05:13.053 --> 00:05:14.333 I don't cherish either, but. 00:05:14.353 --> 00:05:17.653 Yeah, at one time in my life, I definitely cherished Harry Potter. 00:05:17.673 --> 00:05:19.033 We can't half-ass this, right? 00:05:19.053 --> 00:05:21.133 Like, what if the door is only like a foot tall? 00:05:21.153 --> 00:05:22.253 We're never gonna get in there. 00:05:22.273 --> 00:05:23.533 Harry Potter's time has come. 00:05:23.553 --> 00:05:26.233 Harry Potter's been buried in the ground for years now. 00:05:26.413 --> 00:05:42.453 Clair, we just have to go back in time to when we cared about Harry Potter, steal the book from the version of me that cared about Harry Potter, which would actually be great, because then I probably wouldn't have given a shit about Harry Potter much later that I wish I had stopped caring. 00:05:42.473 --> 00:05:47.793 But this would create a time-continuum rift because now you wouldn't care about Harry Potter. 00:05:49.173 --> 00:05:57.773 So do we have to talk about, are we in the fiction of where time travel creates new timelines or affects the current timeline? 00:05:57.993 --> 00:06:00.033 What's the correct time travel? 00:06:00.233 --> 00:06:04.193 Is this back to the future or is this end game? 00:06:04.353 --> 00:06:10.833 I think the answer is irrelevant because what if we make zombie Harry Potter because he's already in the ground and now we can just revive him? 00:06:10.893 --> 00:06:14.113 The problem is we need to care about the book. 00:06:14.333 --> 00:06:15.393 What if it's our book? 00:06:15.613 --> 00:06:17.013 What if we're making it good? 00:06:17.033 --> 00:06:20.273 What if we're stealing the IP and now it's our IP? 00:06:20.433 --> 00:06:24.493 Okay, so we have to write first in order to enter the writing. 00:06:24.513 --> 00:06:26.513 So I do see the problem. 00:06:26.533 --> 00:06:31.893 I was going to say I do see a slight issue which is fan fiction. 00:06:31.893 --> 00:06:34.573 There has to be a zombie fan fiction. 00:06:34.653 --> 00:06:38.133 Could fan fiction simply provide us a back door into the writing zone? 00:06:38.273 --> 00:06:39.573 I think so, right? 00:06:39.593 --> 00:06:42.393 It's sort of like the 4chan of the writing zone. 00:06:42.573 --> 00:06:46.233 I, no, no, no, I, no. 00:06:46.373 --> 00:06:51.193 It is, well, yeah, sure, fan fiction can be racist, but I don't think it's that racist. 00:06:52.133 --> 00:06:53.873 Eh, yeah, it can't, yeah. 00:06:54.253 --> 00:06:55.353 So maybe, maybe- 00:06:55.373 --> 00:06:59.713 When taken as a whole, it's not as bad as 4chan taken as a whole. 00:06:59.913 --> 00:07:01.613 I just want to put that out there. 00:07:01.633 --> 00:07:05.993 Maybe we don't have to go into the writing zone the conventional way. 00:07:06.433 --> 00:07:09.613 Maybe there is something that we're missing. 00:07:10.653 --> 00:07:12.693 Maybe we bring the writing zone to us. 00:07:13.133 --> 00:07:16.053 Maybe we make the writing zone come into the real world. 00:07:17.193 --> 00:07:23.433 What if we fill the real world with writing inspiration and we populate this world with ideas? 00:07:23.913 --> 00:07:26.753 How do we get a big enough knife to do this? 00:07:28.793 --> 00:07:30.273 Like a time knife? 00:07:30.293 --> 00:07:32.333 No, like a writing knife, like a pencil. 00:07:32.353 --> 00:07:36.393 A pencil, it's just a pencil, it's just a big-ass pencil. 00:07:36.673 --> 00:07:40.133 Oh, so it's the SpongeBob episode where they create DoodleBob. 00:07:40.133 --> 00:07:41.093 Thank you. 00:07:41.313 --> 00:07:42.353 We got there. 00:07:45.773 --> 00:07:49.473 In order to infiltrate the writing zone, we simply me hoi, me noi. 00:07:49.493 --> 00:07:52.073 This makes a lot of sense. 00:07:52.673 --> 00:07:53.953 It doesn't, but it's true. 00:07:54.273 --> 00:07:55.113 How did that come? 00:07:55.513 --> 00:07:56.293 What happened? 00:07:56.313 --> 00:07:58.853 Did he just have like a pencil that made? 00:07:58.873 --> 00:08:04.453 Someone was in a boat, they dropped a pencil and then it gained magical powers. 00:08:05.113 --> 00:08:08.353 So we just have to submerge a pencil into water? 00:08:08.553 --> 00:08:10.073 Yeah, that makes sense to me. 00:08:10.413 --> 00:08:12.193 So this is the aqua pencil. 00:08:12.493 --> 00:08:12.973 Yes. 00:08:13.093 --> 00:08:14.493 It writes underwater. 00:08:14.793 --> 00:08:15.813 But can't write. 00:08:15.833 --> 00:08:19.253 Is that the gateway into the writing zone is underwater? 00:08:19.273 --> 00:08:21.313 Yeah, I mean, it's gotta have a moat around it, right? 00:08:21.793 --> 00:08:22.333 A moat? 00:08:22.573 --> 00:08:24.413 Yeah, the writing zone has a moat around it. 00:08:25.393 --> 00:08:27.013 Like filled with words? 00:08:27.553 --> 00:08:28.493 And filled with water. 00:08:29.353 --> 00:08:30.713 That's how we're gonna get there. 00:08:30.733 --> 00:08:34.673 I thought it was just gonna be like a moat of very difficult to pronounce words. 00:08:34.973 --> 00:08:36.373 Oh no, I can't cross. 00:08:36.393 --> 00:08:39.813 I'm gonna have to say, a grogius five times fast. 00:08:39.873 --> 00:08:41.473 And like, I can't do that. 00:08:41.653 --> 00:08:44.153 It'll just, it's a lot of them will be medication names. 00:08:44.393 --> 00:08:48.293 Try saying, try saying methylphenidate times five, five times fast. 00:08:48.313 --> 00:08:49.193 Times five fast. 00:08:49.213 --> 00:08:50.293 Times five fast. 00:08:50.433 --> 00:08:51.673 At times five speed. 00:08:55.453 --> 00:08:57.833 Maybe you have to like complete a game, right? 00:08:57.853 --> 00:09:03.293 So like, have you seen the like, is it a, is it a Pokemon name or is it a medication name? 00:09:03.653 --> 00:09:07.373 And it's like, it's like the Sphinx guards the writing zone. 00:09:07.393 --> 00:09:09.673 What is the writing zone Sphinx riddle? 00:09:09.913 --> 00:09:12.493 One of us always writes and the other never writes. 00:09:14.413 --> 00:09:18.253 The secret is, it's not a secret. 00:09:18.673 --> 00:09:19.093 Yeah. 00:09:19.613 --> 00:09:21.653 What does the writing Sphinx look like? 00:09:22.333 --> 00:09:23.493 Do they have glasses? 00:09:23.513 --> 00:09:25.933 Yeah, it's like a Sphinx, but a library. 00:09:25.933 --> 00:09:27.353 Are they still a cat? 00:09:28.173 --> 00:09:29.913 Are they still a human cat? 00:09:29.933 --> 00:09:30.353 Yeah. 00:09:30.613 --> 00:09:34.853 So they like just have bow tie and glasses and they should go swingy. 00:09:34.913 --> 00:09:37.153 And like their hair is up in a bun. 00:09:37.173 --> 00:09:38.233 Oh my God. 00:09:38.693 --> 00:09:39.353 Very cute. 00:09:39.613 --> 00:09:43.773 So we just have to go up to the Sphinx, find out which one writes and which one never writes. 00:09:44.813 --> 00:09:46.173 So wait, are there two Sphinxes? 00:09:46.333 --> 00:09:47.073 Yeah. 00:09:47.093 --> 00:09:48.813 Sphinxite, what's the plural of Sphinx? 00:09:49.273 --> 00:09:49.713 Sphinx. 00:09:50.273 --> 00:09:51.993 So the Sphinxite are a... 00:09:52.673 --> 00:09:54.073 I think it's just Sphinx. 00:09:54.093 --> 00:09:54.553 Sphincter? 00:09:54.853 --> 00:09:57.633 Yeah, the Sphincter, that's it. 00:09:57.653 --> 00:10:00.133 That's the plural of Sphinx, is Sphincter. 00:10:02.333 --> 00:10:04.113 So the Sphincter are... 00:10:04.133 --> 00:10:12.653 Look, it makes sense, cause one of them holds back information and the other one does other things of a similar vein of holding back. 00:10:12.893 --> 00:10:14.793 They both hold back information. 00:10:15.293 --> 00:10:16.493 That's the whole thing. 00:10:16.793 --> 00:10:25.193 So what's the question that we're gonna ask the Sphincter to find out which one lies, which one tells the truth and therefore get into the writing zone? 00:10:25.713 --> 00:10:27.413 Are we answering the riddle? 00:10:27.433 --> 00:10:28.933 Are we asking them a question? 00:10:28.953 --> 00:10:30.493 Are we just trying to one up them? 00:10:30.933 --> 00:10:32.613 Is that what the writing zone is about? 00:10:32.633 --> 00:10:33.973 It's just one upping each other. 00:10:33.993 --> 00:10:35.813 So you just have to ask them better questions. 00:10:35.833 --> 00:10:38.273 Yes, it's not absolutely that. 00:10:38.453 --> 00:10:44.193 Have you, that's the history of writing is, yeah, this is all right, but I bet I could do it better. 00:10:44.213 --> 00:10:46.733 That's the history of writing. 00:10:46.793 --> 00:10:49.073 If you answer the question they ask, they eat you. 00:10:49.093 --> 00:10:50.533 That's not what you're supposed to do. 00:10:50.553 --> 00:10:52.973 You're supposed to ask them better questions. 00:10:53.793 --> 00:10:57.733 So the question that they ask is, what is the core of writing? 00:10:58.113 --> 00:11:03.433 And we of course say in response, Why does anyone want to know about the core of the writing? 00:11:03.453 --> 00:11:05.973 What does it mean to be the core of the writing? 00:11:06.613 --> 00:11:09.893 And then their heads blow up and we're in the writing zone. 00:11:10.493 --> 00:11:12.253 This is quite the roundabout way. 00:11:12.493 --> 00:11:14.393 And we can just like come back out, right? 00:11:14.413 --> 00:11:22.853 Like, are you just, we're just going to go in and you're going to like write, you're just going to like 10 books in like the span of, does time work the same way? 00:11:23.253 --> 00:11:23.553 No. 00:11:23.873 --> 00:11:24.293 Cool. 00:11:24.313 --> 00:11:27.153 I don't know how it works, but it certainly doesn't work the same way. 00:11:27.173 --> 00:11:31.413 When you're in that writing zone, oh man, time just like flies by. 00:11:31.433 --> 00:11:36.873 So it may actually end up taking longer than usual, but you don't need to eat, sleep or drink. 00:11:37.293 --> 00:11:37.993 Oh my God. 00:11:38.193 --> 00:11:39.453 But only when you're in the writing zone. 00:11:39.613 --> 00:11:41.293 And you're still dehydrated at the end of it. 00:11:41.313 --> 00:11:42.513 You just don't have to do it. 00:11:42.613 --> 00:11:49.133 Yeah, you still feel pretty fucking bad, but you sure are in the writing zone. 00:11:49.413 --> 00:11:49.933 We did it. 00:11:49.953 --> 00:11:50.693 Now I can write. 00:11:50.713 --> 00:11:53.193 Thanks, Clair. 00:11:53.213 --> 00:11:56.233 I look forward to reading all of these books you're gonna write now. 00:11:56.573 --> 00:11:57.233 Yeah, thanks. 00:11:57.253 --> 00:11:57.833 So do I. 00:12:00.573 --> 00:12:04.073 Now I know this section is about me, but what are you craving? 00:12:04.073 --> 00:12:08.753 I know the therapist isn't normally supposed to answer this, so. 00:12:08.773 --> 00:12:09.673 They're forbidden. 00:12:12.013 --> 00:12:13.613 The forbidden knowledge. 00:12:14.073 --> 00:12:16.933 We did touch on this a bit last time. 00:12:16.953 --> 00:12:17.553 It's fine. 00:12:17.653 --> 00:12:19.253 No one listens to these episodes in order. 00:12:20.573 --> 00:12:21.953 It's a strong assumption. 00:12:22.113 --> 00:12:24.053 It's a very strong assumption that is false. 00:12:24.633 --> 00:12:27.553 I've been rereading Heroes of Olympus. 00:12:28.113 --> 00:12:29.733 Yeah. 00:12:29.993 --> 00:12:38.673 I've been craving getting back into the Rick Riordan sort of series and rereading Percy Jackson again, but Riordan has- 00:12:38.753 --> 00:12:39.293 Riordan. 00:12:39.553 --> 00:12:40.173 Riordan? 00:12:40.633 --> 00:12:42.033 How do you say his name? 00:12:42.053 --> 00:12:42.513 Riordan. 00:12:42.833 --> 00:12:43.533 Riordan? 00:12:43.713 --> 00:12:45.073 You got to reorder the din. 00:12:45.333 --> 00:12:46.233 Reorder the din. 00:12:47.233 --> 00:12:49.913 I've always called him Riordan or Riordan. 00:12:50.173 --> 00:12:53.313 This feels like an obscure Fire Emblem character. 00:12:54.433 --> 00:12:56.453 This is my main character, Riordan. 00:12:56.873 --> 00:13:00.033 We got Byleth, we got Edelgard, and we got Royaldin. 00:13:00.053 --> 00:13:01.113 I'm pretty sure it's Edelgard. 00:13:01.133 --> 00:13:01.893 I have no idea which it is. 00:13:01.913 --> 00:13:02.633 I like Edelgard though. 00:13:02.653 --> 00:13:04.313 Why would I know anything about Fire Emblem? 00:13:04.333 --> 00:13:06.453 We've never played a single goddamn game. 00:13:06.473 --> 00:13:08.273 Yeah, it's pretty, Edelgard. 00:13:08.913 --> 00:13:09.213 So- 00:13:09.253 --> 00:13:10.313 Edel-gurd. 00:13:10.953 --> 00:13:11.353 What? 00:13:11.473 --> 00:13:12.113 Edelgurd. 00:13:12.933 --> 00:13:13.693 Edelgurd. 00:13:14.833 --> 00:13:17.073 This is my Finnish Fire Emblem game. 00:13:18.233 --> 00:13:18.533 I am- 00:13:18.813 --> 00:13:21.653 Finnish Emblem. 00:13:22.433 --> 00:13:23.553 I am Edelgard. 00:13:23.893 --> 00:13:27.473 I want to start a massive war against the other nations. 00:13:27.793 --> 00:13:29.493 This is how Swedish people talk. 00:13:29.613 --> 00:13:31.453 It's always with an up and down reflection. 00:13:34.573 --> 00:13:36.133 You should finish saying you're crazy. 00:13:38.173 --> 00:13:39.953 But I used to do this voice forever. 00:13:41.133 --> 00:13:44.293 I'm just going to say Riordan, because I've called him Riordan for my entire life. 00:13:44.353 --> 00:13:45.973 I will continue saying Riordan. 00:13:45.993 --> 00:13:46.893 I'm going to call him Rick. 00:13:46.913 --> 00:13:48.493 You know, hey Rick, my buddy Rick. 00:13:48.633 --> 00:13:51.393 Hey, so Rick made these books, right? 00:13:51.813 --> 00:13:53.153 They're certainly something. 00:13:53.493 --> 00:13:55.833 So I really enjoyed reading these books as a kid. 00:13:55.953 --> 00:13:59.413 We previously talked about this, but the original series was about the Greek gods. 00:13:59.413 --> 00:14:05.873 The next series was about in the same universe, the Roman gods, and then I believe there was the Egyptian gods. 00:14:06.073 --> 00:14:10.333 Well, the Egyptian gods, he wrote that series between the Greek and the Roman ones. 00:14:10.513 --> 00:14:12.253 I've read that trilogy. 00:14:12.313 --> 00:14:13.533 I liked it a lot when I read it. 00:14:13.553 --> 00:14:17.813 I don't know how good it is, you know, with the knowledge of like... 00:14:17.933 --> 00:14:20.693 I mean, with time and like, this is why I want to revisit it. 00:14:20.713 --> 00:14:31.253 I want to see if it stands up because Rick has often been praised as someone who like grew as a writer over the course of the book series with diversity in his writing. 00:14:31.273 --> 00:14:36.613 The beginning of the Percy Jackson series was sort of your cliche hero's story. 00:14:36.673 --> 00:14:37.713 Hero's story story. 00:14:37.873 --> 00:14:42.253 And then we get cool characters like Thalia and Rico? 00:14:42.333 --> 00:14:42.833 Nico? 00:14:42.853 --> 00:14:43.313 Nico. 00:14:43.333 --> 00:14:44.493 Nico D'Ange. 00:14:44.553 --> 00:14:48.713 This is why I need to reread the books because I'm forgetting all these neat characters. 00:14:49.053 --> 00:14:55.853 But my craving is more of these modern day interpretations of mythological figures. 00:14:57.053 --> 00:15:02.773 And so I want to ask, what mythological figures would you want in modern day? 00:15:02.973 --> 00:15:04.113 What is the story? 00:15:04.373 --> 00:15:06.753 Um, okay, okay, let's... 00:15:07.213 --> 00:15:09.753 It can just be one mythological figure. 00:15:10.153 --> 00:15:10.493 Let's... 00:15:11.373 --> 00:15:12.793 Are you good? 00:15:12.793 --> 00:15:14.573 There's a lot to choose from. 00:15:15.373 --> 00:15:16.633 And I feel like... 00:15:16.653 --> 00:15:19.373 I know my answer, but first I do want to shout out something. 00:15:19.393 --> 00:15:20.213 What's your answer? 00:15:20.333 --> 00:15:22.693 My answer is Achilles and Patroclus. 00:15:22.953 --> 00:15:24.593 I don't even know who Patroclus is. 00:15:24.633 --> 00:15:25.713 Who do you want to shout out? 00:15:25.733 --> 00:15:26.653 What do you want to shout out? 00:15:26.673 --> 00:15:36.993 The thing that I wanted to shout out is a play called Jasper in Deadland, which is a musical about sort of a modern interpretation of the story of Orpheus and Eurydice. 00:15:37.013 --> 00:15:38.213 I think that's how you pronounce that name. 00:15:38.533 --> 00:15:40.493 And the original musical, that's fine. 00:15:40.513 --> 00:15:43.213 But I once saw a version of it that was gay, and that was extremely good. 00:15:43.813 --> 00:15:52.613 It was about someone going into the underworld to save her best friend and slowly realizing that she was in love with this girl. 00:15:52.633 --> 00:15:53.553 It's extremely good. 00:15:53.973 --> 00:15:57.613 Knowing the ending of that story, that must have been a heartbreaking story. 00:15:57.633 --> 00:15:58.253 No, no, no, no, no. 00:15:58.313 --> 00:15:59.273 It goes different. 00:15:59.293 --> 00:16:03.693 Because it's like they mention in the play that like, Oh yeah, Orpheus tried this once. 00:16:03.713 --> 00:16:04.893 It didn't go well for him. 00:16:04.953 --> 00:16:05.613 Good luck. 00:16:05.853 --> 00:16:07.813 Things do not play out exactly on the myth. 00:16:07.893 --> 00:16:13.653 I will say in Portrait of a Lady on Fire, there is a lot of themes with this myth in that movie. 00:16:13.673 --> 00:16:15.513 And you've seen this movie, right? 00:16:15.533 --> 00:16:16.093 I haven't yet. 00:16:16.113 --> 00:16:16.633 I want to see it. 00:16:16.653 --> 00:16:18.233 But yeah, no, I love this myth. 00:16:18.233 --> 00:16:19.593 It's such a good myth. 00:16:19.693 --> 00:16:24.173 The other myth that I want to do is Achilles and Patroclus. 00:16:24.193 --> 00:16:26.073 So everyone knows about Achilles heel, right? 00:16:26.273 --> 00:16:28.033 Everyone knows about Achilles heel. 00:16:28.053 --> 00:16:29.073 I love his little heel. 00:16:29.173 --> 00:16:31.333 Yeah, his heel where you could hurt him. 00:16:31.353 --> 00:16:33.873 Yeah, and all of his life is in his heel. 00:16:33.953 --> 00:16:36.013 He has no soul except for in his heel. 00:16:36.033 --> 00:16:40.093 And therefore, when he takes an arrow to the knee, it's not the knee. 00:16:40.193 --> 00:16:41.233 It's the heel. 00:16:41.253 --> 00:16:41.773 But yeah, no. 00:16:41.933 --> 00:16:44.413 What if Achilles took an arrow to the knee instead? 00:16:46.293 --> 00:16:52.933 The story of Achilles is Achilles is this powerful Greek fighter who's like part of the group. 00:16:52.953 --> 00:16:53.993 He's a mortal, right? 00:16:54.093 --> 00:16:55.313 He's not immortal. 00:16:55.333 --> 00:16:56.413 He is a mortal. 00:16:56.553 --> 00:16:58.453 He is the he's a demigod. 00:16:58.573 --> 00:17:01.433 I thought he started out as mortal and then got dipped in the river. 00:17:01.453 --> 00:17:06.253 He got dipped in by his mother, who is, I think, like a godly figure. 00:17:06.273 --> 00:17:08.693 She's not a god, but she is a godly figure. 00:17:09.233 --> 00:17:15.233 And he was one of the most powerful members of the Grecian army when they were assaulting Troy. 00:17:15.413 --> 00:17:23.353 He kind of lets power go to his head and takes his troops away from the assault of Troy until they give him his power back. 00:17:23.453 --> 00:17:25.813 There's a whole bunch of infighting among the Greeks. 00:17:25.993 --> 00:17:29.873 Then in a final battle, they end up taking Troy. 00:17:30.053 --> 00:17:31.793 Achilles is killed. 00:17:32.093 --> 00:17:38.873 Leaving behind, this is a part of the myth that is not often told about Achilles, his partner, Patroclus, who's also a boy. 00:17:40.373 --> 00:17:42.093 Or no, it's Patroclus who dies first. 00:17:42.493 --> 00:17:47.053 So I read The Song of Achilles, which is where I know this from most recently, which is an excellent book, very sad. 00:17:47.073 --> 00:17:54.913 But in that version of the story, Patroclus, like, he pretends to be Achilles because Achilles won't do anything and like ends up getting killed. 00:17:55.133 --> 00:18:00.333 And then Achilles like goes on a fucking rampage, kills most people and then ends up dying himself. 00:18:00.593 --> 00:18:02.213 It's a very sad story. 00:18:02.353 --> 00:18:04.193 What if it wasn't? 00:18:05.013 --> 00:18:08.873 What if we combine these myths and then also set it in modern day? 00:18:08.893 --> 00:18:12.133 Where like it's this modern war of Achilles. 00:18:12.153 --> 00:18:15.013 What if Achilles dies and what was the partner's name again? 00:18:15.033 --> 00:18:15.473 Petroclus. 00:18:15.493 --> 00:18:16.733 Petroclus doesn't. 00:18:16.733 --> 00:18:24.493 What if that whole thing doesn't happen and Petroclus goes to hell to get Achilles back in modern day setting. 00:18:24.493 --> 00:18:31.353 But like the doors to hell are, and I'm probably stealing this from Percy Jackson, are like in New York or something. 00:18:31.373 --> 00:18:32.373 Yeah, that's extremely good. 00:18:32.393 --> 00:18:33.953 I've changed my mind a little bit. 00:18:33.973 --> 00:18:35.293 I don't just want modern day. 00:18:35.313 --> 00:18:38.513 I want like close modern day, but modern future. 00:18:38.533 --> 00:18:39.873 It's slight future. 00:18:40.333 --> 00:18:42.553 Yeah, it's like 50 to 100 years in the future. 00:18:42.573 --> 00:18:43.873 It's modern day. 00:18:43.973 --> 00:18:45.873 The first chapter is Achilles dying. 00:18:45.913 --> 00:18:48.653 Achilles dies in the first chapter. 00:18:48.673 --> 00:18:51.613 What if we don't even see him dying? 00:18:51.613 --> 00:18:53.773 What if like the first chapter is the funeral? 00:18:53.793 --> 00:18:56.013 Oh, I like this. 00:18:56.313 --> 00:18:58.153 And like it starts with anger, right? 00:18:58.173 --> 00:19:00.553 Because what is Patriculus? 00:19:00.613 --> 00:19:01.313 Petroclus. 00:19:01.333 --> 00:19:03.533 So his name is Patriculus now? 00:19:05.313 --> 00:19:07.453 It's Pat, Pat or Petriculus. 00:19:07.933 --> 00:19:09.073 Everyone just calls him Pat. 00:19:09.093 --> 00:19:11.093 Everyone calls him Pat, but his name is Petriculus. 00:19:11.813 --> 00:19:14.473 Pat, he has an older brother that calls him Trickle. 00:19:15.213 --> 00:19:18.093 You trickle your pants there, Patty. 00:19:18.113 --> 00:19:20.053 They're from Boston. 00:19:20.073 --> 00:19:21.193 They have to go to New York. 00:19:21.473 --> 00:19:23.013 That was New York. 00:19:23.233 --> 00:19:23.713 Was it? 00:19:24.533 --> 00:19:25.573 Yeah, but it's fine. 00:19:25.593 --> 00:19:27.293 We're very good at hacktimes. 00:19:27.313 --> 00:19:27.593 We are. 00:19:27.653 --> 00:19:36.353 Throughout the story, as Petroculus like goes through the underworld, you get kind of flashbacks of what their life was like before. 00:19:36.453 --> 00:19:43.433 And it's like, as he's searching for Achilles, you're also hearing the story of how this war came about and how Achilles like got involved in this. 00:19:43.593 --> 00:19:49.953 At least in the song, Achilles is one of the things that really gets me is like, he didn't want to be involved in this war, but he was like forced to. 00:19:50.293 --> 00:19:52.573 What if we changed it? 00:19:52.853 --> 00:19:58.453 What if he didn't have to be involved with the war, but he felt like he had to? 00:19:58.633 --> 00:20:00.893 And that was like a big falling out point. 00:20:00.913 --> 00:20:04.913 And then that's like a conflict resolution that comes up in the last part. 00:20:04.913 --> 00:20:07.833 It's like, yeah, I saved you, you asshole. 00:20:08.013 --> 00:20:09.553 You could have not done this. 00:20:09.653 --> 00:20:11.473 We could have avoided all of this. 00:20:11.593 --> 00:20:20.233 And what if it's kind of unclear throughout most of the time what the war is about, but then in the end you kind of find out that like, what if this was like a revolution? 00:20:20.433 --> 00:20:21.133 Absolutely. 00:20:21.153 --> 00:20:26.793 And like you find out in the end that what Patroclus wanted to do was like ignore the revolutionary call. 00:20:27.153 --> 00:20:27.413 Oh. 00:20:27.413 --> 00:20:31.013 And Achilles wanted to fight for this thing that they cared about. 00:20:31.353 --> 00:20:35.493 Some of my favorite themes are like surviving in the age of war. 00:20:35.613 --> 00:20:37.793 And so like, where is our resolution? 00:20:37.813 --> 00:20:41.413 Is it them being like, you've already died for this war. 00:20:41.413 --> 00:20:43.973 Like, can we just live our lives? 00:20:43.993 --> 00:20:45.913 Or is it left as a bigger question? 00:20:45.933 --> 00:20:49.053 Yeah, I'm a huge fan of leaving things as questions. 00:20:49.073 --> 00:20:53.493 I like the idea that like the last moment of the book is like they escape. 00:20:53.593 --> 00:20:54.593 What are they going to do now? 00:20:55.593 --> 00:20:59.453 What if Achilles is also just like, I don't like, I can't go back. 00:20:59.633 --> 00:21:01.253 That's, that's, yo, yeah, yeah. 00:21:01.473 --> 00:21:07.473 In the original myth, Orpheus can't bear to not check on your DC and make sure she's doing okay. 00:21:07.493 --> 00:21:11.073 Because you have to go through this whole like set of like waves and stuff. 00:21:11.093 --> 00:21:14.733 And it's like bad Orpheus like can't bear to not look back and looks back. 00:21:14.773 --> 00:21:16.833 And then they're both trapped there forever. 00:21:17.153 --> 00:21:20.373 I think the point here is that this is sick. 00:21:20.513 --> 00:21:25.313 But I do like this idea of like when they're escaping, they're having this argument as they get out. 00:21:25.533 --> 00:21:27.073 This is the final argument. 00:21:27.153 --> 00:21:40.353 I really love the idea of the shot where we see both their faces because the shot is from in front of them and we don't see them exiting, but we do see light getting brighter and brighter on their face. 00:21:40.773 --> 00:21:45.993 The shot is just one continuous shot of both of their faces, one behind the other. 00:21:46.333 --> 00:21:50.993 You can see their expressions, but they can't see each other's expressions. 00:21:51.713 --> 00:21:54.733 They're just having this probably 10-minute-long monologue. 00:21:54.753 --> 00:21:59.673 That's the last big scene before they get out, but that's it. 00:21:59.673 --> 00:22:01.133 That's the movie. 00:22:01.353 --> 00:22:02.273 This is cool. 00:22:02.313 --> 00:22:03.453 Someone let us make movies. 00:22:04.113 --> 00:22:08.013 Someone, grant us millions of dollars so we can make movies. 00:22:08.033 --> 00:22:12.073 Someone just let us make some movies because we would make some sick movies. 00:22:12.893 --> 00:22:14.233 Salt Cravings movie company win. 00:22:17.153 --> 00:22:23.573 That's what I've been craving, is more modern adaptations of mythological figures. 00:22:23.613 --> 00:22:26.453 I love me some modern adaptations, mythologies and stuff. 00:22:26.553 --> 00:22:30.513 I think it's a lot of fun to be like, okay, well, what does this mean in modern times? 00:22:30.633 --> 00:22:33.773 I like a lot of the complications of Ole Miss. 00:22:33.793 --> 00:22:35.193 Yeah, these people kind of suck. 00:22:35.653 --> 00:22:37.673 Sometimes your characters can suck. 00:22:37.693 --> 00:22:43.313 Percy Jackson tones down how much the characters suck, and they still suck a lot. 00:22:44.073 --> 00:22:52.233 But like in Percy Jackson, it's more that they are just like terrible parents as opposed to the actual myths, which is like really bad. 00:22:52.333 --> 00:22:56.993 Oh, Zeus and Percy Jackson is a fucking saint compared to the original myths. 00:22:57.513 --> 00:22:59.313 What have you been craving? 00:22:59.373 --> 00:23:00.773 I was getting back to you. 00:23:00.793 --> 00:23:03.093 You know, the real reason we're here. 00:23:03.113 --> 00:23:03.373 Right. 00:23:03.473 --> 00:23:06.473 This is also kind of related to movies and adaptations. 00:23:06.493 --> 00:23:11.033 There is a song called In the Hall of the Mountain King. 00:23:16.213 --> 00:23:17.813 I love In the Hall of the Mountain King. 00:23:17.833 --> 00:23:21.013 I think it is absolutely my favorite piece of classical music. 00:23:21.113 --> 00:23:22.853 And it's just, I love it. 00:23:22.873 --> 00:23:26.173 And I love when it is used in pieces of media. 00:23:26.193 --> 00:23:28.353 This throws me back to like high school. 00:23:28.413 --> 00:23:35.133 I think there was just a year where I got really into every adaptation of Hall of the Mountain King. 00:23:35.233 --> 00:23:38.233 There's a lot of really good uses of it in media. 00:23:38.433 --> 00:23:40.733 Pose uses it at the end of one of its episodes. 00:23:40.933 --> 00:23:44.653 It's used in everything from Pose to the MbimBam TV show. 00:23:44.753 --> 00:23:47.113 And I think it is just so good. 00:23:47.393 --> 00:23:51.873 It builds the chaos until it's like full on absolutely chaotic. 00:23:52.073 --> 00:23:54.113 I crave it all the time. 00:23:54.133 --> 00:24:00.553 I think I tweeted the other day, it's like when you're playing one of the Jackbox games that's about like figuring out who the liar is. 00:24:01.433 --> 00:24:03.553 That's the tone of every game. 00:24:03.753 --> 00:24:06.153 It just slowly gets more and more chaotic. 00:24:06.173 --> 00:24:08.713 People start accusing each other and it's very good. 00:24:08.733 --> 00:24:11.093 I don't know how to solve this craving. 00:24:11.153 --> 00:24:13.433 Do we have to find the Mountain King? 00:24:13.593 --> 00:24:14.813 Where is his hall? 00:24:15.113 --> 00:24:17.933 How do we get more halls to the Mountain King? 00:24:18.433 --> 00:24:19.153 Who is the... 00:24:19.173 --> 00:24:20.533 What is the Mountain King? 00:24:20.553 --> 00:24:22.433 Is it just a king on the mountain? 00:24:22.613 --> 00:24:23.793 Where is he king of? 00:24:24.013 --> 00:24:25.333 What is his domain? 00:24:25.533 --> 00:24:27.073 Clearly, it's a chaotic mountain. 00:24:27.113 --> 00:24:29.313 Because my understanding of the Hall of the Mountain King... 00:24:30.013 --> 00:24:33.593 Yeah, as you get farther into the hall, it gets more and more chaotic. 00:24:34.233 --> 00:24:36.113 So how long is this hall, right? 00:24:36.113 --> 00:24:37.133 It takes what? 00:24:37.153 --> 00:24:39.073 Two and a half minutes to walk. 00:24:39.253 --> 00:24:40.393 That's a big hall. 00:24:40.613 --> 00:24:41.713 Maybe that is the... 00:24:41.733 --> 00:24:44.433 What are the things you see in the Hall of the Mountain King? 00:24:44.613 --> 00:24:49.313 As you walk down this hall, what are you seeing that is more and more chaotic? 00:24:49.513 --> 00:24:51.833 It starts out where you see some like... 00:24:52.133 --> 00:24:56.453 I think you just see some like normal things that you would expect in a hall, right? 00:24:56.473 --> 00:25:02.653 And you're kind of like, you're like, okay, I'm gonna see the Mountain King. 00:25:02.673 --> 00:25:03.713 Yeah, I'm gonna see the Mountain King. 00:25:03.753 --> 00:25:05.253 It's gonna be totally fine. 00:25:05.953 --> 00:25:09.013 And then you see a deer with three eyes, and you're like, it's a little weird. 00:25:09.033 --> 00:25:14.433 And then you see like a bunny balancing on like a ball, like a clown or a gesture, but it's a bunny. 00:25:14.433 --> 00:25:16.633 And it's a big ball, but it's a tiny bunny. 00:25:17.153 --> 00:25:19.153 And it's still like, it's not that chaotic, right? 00:25:19.173 --> 00:25:20.973 Because it's such a big ball, it's pretty easy. 00:25:20.993 --> 00:25:25.613 So it's like rolling back and forth pretty lazily, but it's like, okay, all right, all right. 00:25:25.833 --> 00:25:27.673 So we're seeing these bunnies and deer. 00:25:27.753 --> 00:25:32.573 So we got the bunnies and deer, we got the ball bunny and the three-eyed deer. 00:25:32.633 --> 00:25:33.953 Whatever is next. 00:25:34.313 --> 00:25:38.553 And then you see a really big animal. 00:25:38.973 --> 00:25:40.673 Is it like bigger than a bear? 00:25:41.993 --> 00:25:44.293 It's roughly the size of a bear, I would say. 00:25:44.433 --> 00:25:45.853 But it's like a cat. 00:25:46.233 --> 00:25:48.153 Yeah, it's a cat the size of a bear. 00:25:48.173 --> 00:25:51.553 So is it like a lion on its hind leg? 00:25:51.573 --> 00:25:55.133 There's a lion who's balancing on its hind leg, and just walking like a person. 00:25:55.153 --> 00:25:56.053 There's just furries. 00:25:56.053 --> 00:25:57.433 So they're not furries. 00:25:57.553 --> 00:26:01.233 So they're a little bit unnerved because you're like, Oh, okay. 00:26:01.253 --> 00:26:02.913 Maybe there are people in fursuits. 00:26:02.933 --> 00:26:06.993 Maybe, but maybe they're just actually lions standing on their back legs. 00:26:07.313 --> 00:26:08.153 You don't know. 00:26:08.173 --> 00:26:09.773 That's kind of chaotic. 00:26:09.833 --> 00:26:11.193 That's a little bit chaotic. 00:26:11.213 --> 00:26:12.693 And you're kind of walking faster now. 00:26:13.713 --> 00:26:16.293 Because you're a little bit more worried about what you're seeing. 00:26:16.313 --> 00:26:17.993 Then they're just animals with knives. 00:26:19.173 --> 00:26:20.313 Lots of different knives. 00:26:20.333 --> 00:26:21.633 Some of them have swords. 00:26:21.653 --> 00:26:23.753 Yeah, and they haven't noticed you yet. 00:26:30.993 --> 00:26:32.033 And that's worrying. 00:26:48.353 --> 00:26:49.293 And then Orpheus is there. 00:26:50.113 --> 00:26:53.813 And like, the wall is just dissolving behind you. 00:26:56.593 --> 00:26:59.173 And can you even see the end of this hall yet? 00:26:59.193 --> 00:27:01.113 It's kind of stretching in front of you. 00:27:01.153 --> 00:27:03.593 The drone is getting further and further. 00:27:04.093 --> 00:27:06.893 Even there is the Mountain King present. 00:27:06.993 --> 00:27:08.673 You see the door on the other side. 00:27:17.593 --> 00:27:18.993 Okay, cool. 00:27:19.013 --> 00:27:24.013 That's the end of the Hall of the Mountain King, because I guess after that is the Throne of the Mountain King. 00:27:24.033 --> 00:27:26.053 But there wasn't a sequel. 00:27:26.373 --> 00:27:28.253 Unfortunately, there was no sequel. 00:27:28.253 --> 00:27:30.293 So it's impossible to know, really. 00:27:30.313 --> 00:27:31.273 It's really impossible. 00:27:31.413 --> 00:27:32.313 Anyways, that's a weird hall. 00:27:32.333 --> 00:27:35.793 I think we can probably infer that he might be a furry. 00:27:38.493 --> 00:27:39.433 The Hall of... 00:27:39.453 --> 00:27:41.213 Okay, what is the Hall of the Mountain King? 00:27:41.353 --> 00:27:41.693 What? 00:27:41.773 --> 00:27:42.913 Is it like a mountain goat? 00:27:42.993 --> 00:27:44.893 This is where the mountain goats are. 00:27:44.913 --> 00:27:51.373 This is where both the animal, the mountain goats, and the band, the mountain goats comes from. 00:27:52.293 --> 00:27:56.593 The Mountain King is actually just the lead singer of The Hall of the Mountain Goats. 00:27:56.613 --> 00:27:58.153 The Hall of the Mountain Goats is... 00:27:58.173 --> 00:28:01.593 That's my new band, and that's a sick band name. 00:28:02.993 --> 00:28:04.253 Uh, yeah. 00:28:04.613 --> 00:28:05.273 That was fun. 00:28:05.353 --> 00:28:06.173 Thank you for that. 00:28:06.213 --> 00:28:09.013 Thanks for taking us down the hall. 00:28:09.093 --> 00:28:12.193 I'm going to say preemptively, good job on the editing on that one, Clair. 00:28:12.213 --> 00:28:14.553 Thanks, I did such a good job. 00:28:14.953 --> 00:28:18.093 It's time for you to give me your finale craving. 00:28:18.153 --> 00:28:32.533 Well, I guess since we've gotten through your addiction, and I guess I have time to share, I have also struggled with craving addiction because I often crave for the bad drivers to get good. 00:28:32.673 --> 00:28:43.873 I often crave for human drivers to get good, because you know, all human drivers are bad at driving, period, end of thing. 00:28:44.153 --> 00:28:45.773 I'm sorry, all human drivers? 00:28:46.093 --> 00:28:48.633 There are other bad drivers that are not human. 00:28:50.233 --> 00:28:52.333 But there are no good human drivers. 00:28:52.633 --> 00:28:58.753 There is no human driver that has ever driven good forever, including myself. 00:28:59.073 --> 00:29:02.993 I just crave whenever someone does a thing and it's like, wow, you shouldn't be driving. 00:29:02.993 --> 00:29:04.293 And I just think, you know what? 00:29:04.613 --> 00:29:05.893 No one should be driving. 00:29:06.333 --> 00:29:09.053 Yeah, driving should not be a thing. 00:29:09.773 --> 00:29:12.593 Humans bad at moving, big thing. 00:29:12.693 --> 00:29:17.073 So how are we making sure that people drive good? 00:29:17.113 --> 00:29:20.253 This is going to sound like a weird segue, but stay with me here. 00:29:20.773 --> 00:29:25.013 The only reality show I've ever watched was Canada's Worst Driver. 00:29:25.773 --> 00:29:28.193 Which I watched many years ago when it was on. 00:29:28.213 --> 00:29:29.373 I don't think it's on anymore. 00:29:29.493 --> 00:29:30.833 But I loved that show. 00:29:30.833 --> 00:29:31.913 I had a great time watching it. 00:29:31.933 --> 00:29:33.133 Of course, I did not drive. 00:29:33.273 --> 00:29:34.253 How bad were they? 00:29:34.273 --> 00:29:35.433 I've never watched it. 00:29:35.613 --> 00:29:40.873 So the set up for Canada's Worst Driver is they bring together like all these bad drivers. 00:29:40.893 --> 00:29:42.693 An elite squad of bad drivers. 00:29:42.713 --> 00:29:48.093 Yeah, usually like eight drivers and then like every episode, they eliminate a driver who's good. 00:29:48.113 --> 00:29:50.093 Oh damn, please GTFO. 00:29:50.113 --> 00:29:51.593 You want to get eliminated. 00:29:52.733 --> 00:29:54.093 Your goal is to get eliminated. 00:29:54.113 --> 00:29:55.533 That's so good. 00:29:55.533 --> 00:29:56.673 What a good concept. 00:29:56.693 --> 00:29:57.233 It's so good. 00:29:57.253 --> 00:30:00.673 They also did Canada's Worst Handyman after that, which is a similar thing. 00:30:00.913 --> 00:30:03.753 That sounds like a bigger disaster. 00:30:03.893 --> 00:30:06.953 Well, so I'm just going to fix the city's pattern. 00:30:07.193 --> 00:30:08.473 Yeah, no, not quite that. 00:30:08.493 --> 00:30:10.513 There's a really important event coming up. 00:30:10.533 --> 00:30:13.933 It's more like around the house stuff. 00:30:14.173 --> 00:30:20.813 But Canada's Worst Driver, there was like a couple of moments, one in particular, I remember, where people actually improved at driving. 00:30:20.833 --> 00:30:22.473 Only a few moments? 00:30:22.553 --> 00:30:24.133 Well, people did improve at driving. 00:30:24.153 --> 00:30:28.113 That was the whole thing was like they would, they would kind of help people improve driving. 00:30:28.133 --> 00:30:31.893 But there was one person, I remember, he got like good at driving. 00:30:31.953 --> 00:30:41.913 The final thing that they do on Canada's Worst Driver every season is they take the top three worst drivers and they take them out to the streets of Montreal and have them drive. 00:30:42.093 --> 00:30:51.253 And that season, they kept this guy on, not because he was the worst of the worst, but because they felt like they could actually help him improve and like become a good driver. 00:30:51.253 --> 00:30:51.913 And he did. 00:30:51.933 --> 00:30:56.193 The last episode of the show is him just like having a final time driving in Montreal. 00:30:56.213 --> 00:31:01.633 Montreal, if we're going to teach people how to be better drivers, why not monetize it? 00:31:01.833 --> 00:31:02.293 Why? 00:31:02.313 --> 00:31:03.953 It's already been done. 00:31:03.973 --> 00:31:07.053 But this time we're going to do it as another reality show. 00:31:07.233 --> 00:31:08.833 What's the reality show? 00:31:08.853 --> 00:31:10.553 It's about as far as I got, so... 00:31:10.573 --> 00:31:13.133 What if it's an unreality show? 00:31:13.273 --> 00:31:13.713 What do you... 00:31:16.033 --> 00:31:18.693 I had another idea and I like the unreality. 00:31:18.713 --> 00:31:19.433 Let's explore that. 00:31:19.453 --> 00:31:21.633 But I was thinking, what about a driving anime? 00:31:22.013 --> 00:31:23.813 Just people how to drive. 00:31:23.833 --> 00:31:24.613 Oh my God. 00:31:24.633 --> 00:31:26.053 People like anime, right? 00:31:26.073 --> 00:31:27.293 People love anime. 00:31:27.433 --> 00:31:30.613 One of my friends was showing me Free, the swimming anime. 00:31:31.353 --> 00:31:33.793 I have watched Free with the same friend. 00:31:33.813 --> 00:31:41.753 What if it was a driving anime, and as it was showing you all the, I guess, hot boys probably, I think that the men in Free are supposed to be hot. 00:31:41.853 --> 00:31:44.753 So it's like showing you all these hot boys, but it's also teaching you how to drive. 00:31:44.933 --> 00:31:46.133 All right, cool. 00:31:46.173 --> 00:31:46.753 I like this. 00:31:46.773 --> 00:31:47.753 What's the unreality show? 00:31:50.913 --> 00:31:52.173 Anime is sort of unreality. 00:31:52.193 --> 00:31:53.133 Yeah, it kind of is. 00:31:53.153 --> 00:31:55.213 So I think we've kind of reached the same destination. 00:31:55.233 --> 00:31:56.513 So it's the driving anime. 00:31:56.533 --> 00:31:57.513 It's the driving anime. 00:31:57.533 --> 00:32:00.353 And so like, I think it's a driving school anime, right? 00:32:00.553 --> 00:32:08.873 It's like, it has to be like the trope of like, I don't know, there's like a competition coming up and they're really bad, but they have to come together, like win this. 00:32:09.153 --> 00:32:12.173 It's like, all right, welcome to driving school 101. 00:32:12.193 --> 00:32:14.053 We're going to teach you how to do this stuff. 00:32:14.073 --> 00:32:18.613 But like most of the anime isn't cool car tricks. 00:32:18.633 --> 00:32:20.333 That's like 10% of the anime. 00:32:20.553 --> 00:32:24.993 90% of the anime is genuinely learning about how to drive. 00:32:25.253 --> 00:32:28.713 How long do you think people will watch Hot Boys Take Notes? 00:32:29.473 --> 00:32:30.233 Pretty long. 00:32:30.393 --> 00:32:33.833 Yeah, so it can be a lot of like the teachers teaching. 00:32:33.853 --> 00:32:39.933 I mean, the teacher is also probably a hot, well, no, you always have to have your like hot teacher in the anime. 00:32:39.953 --> 00:32:40.633 That's kind of the thing. 00:32:40.653 --> 00:32:41.653 Yeah, so that's how it works. 00:32:41.753 --> 00:32:45.673 It's a lot of shots of the boys taking notes and like looking at each other. 00:32:45.873 --> 00:32:47.093 Making eye contact. 00:32:47.193 --> 00:32:49.233 Making eye contact and taking notes. 00:32:49.253 --> 00:32:51.533 Daydreaming about driving together. 00:32:51.553 --> 00:32:52.093 Yeah, yeah. 00:32:52.113 --> 00:32:53.933 Going on drives together. 00:32:54.073 --> 00:32:57.133 Going on drives together where they repeat the things that they've learned. 00:32:58.473 --> 00:33:01.413 One of them yells like, Remember, put on your signal. 00:33:01.913 --> 00:33:02.673 Stuff like that. 00:33:02.733 --> 00:33:04.853 And it's like, Oh, you didn't signal. 00:33:04.913 --> 00:33:07.513 Oh, no, we're heading towards this thing. 00:33:07.613 --> 00:33:10.113 And it's like, it's like, This is plot relevant. 00:33:15.033 --> 00:33:20.933 There's lots of things where it's like, These unsafe driving practices have gotten these boys into a bad situation. 00:33:20.953 --> 00:33:23.933 You better not do these unsafe driving things. 00:33:24.593 --> 00:33:31.733 And then so like my favorite thing about going back to like sports, animes in general, there's usually like a trainer who's really good. 00:33:31.853 --> 00:33:33.313 What if it's not just a teacher? 00:33:33.473 --> 00:33:35.353 What if it's like a professional? 00:33:35.433 --> 00:33:40.913 Now, I don't want to say that NASCAR drivers are good because, like I said, all human drivers are bad. 00:33:42.333 --> 00:33:46.913 But among people who are confident in a car, if you're a human, you're a bad driver. 00:33:46.933 --> 00:33:48.173 I just want to make this clear. 00:33:48.493 --> 00:33:51.433 These drivers, these anime boys aren't going to be good drivers. 00:33:51.453 --> 00:33:52.813 They will be better drivers. 00:33:53.033 --> 00:33:54.473 No one can ever be a good driver. 00:33:54.493 --> 00:33:55.113 No human. 00:33:55.133 --> 00:33:56.433 I guess they're not human. 00:33:56.453 --> 00:33:57.533 They are anime. 00:34:00.533 --> 00:34:04.033 We can drive that point home by having them have like cat ears or something. 00:34:04.053 --> 00:34:04.513 Oh my God. 00:34:04.533 --> 00:34:05.293 Oh my God. 00:34:05.993 --> 00:34:06.593 Yes. 00:34:08.373 --> 00:34:09.033 Cat Boys. 00:34:09.653 --> 00:34:11.873 I'm actually invested in this now. 00:34:11.973 --> 00:34:13.393 Cat Boys driving school. 00:34:13.473 --> 00:34:15.013 Cat Boy Academy. 00:34:15.533 --> 00:34:17.193 Cat Boy Driving Academy. 00:34:17.393 --> 00:34:18.913 Cat Boys in Hot Cars. 00:34:19.133 --> 00:34:20.733 Cat Boys in Hot Cars. 00:34:20.973 --> 00:34:22.513 Yeah, this is extremely good. 00:34:22.593 --> 00:34:33.813 There's got to be, know that my knowledge of anime comes from like two animes that I've seen, one of which is free, and in free, there's a character who's like an edgy, was once friends with the group, but isn't anymore. 00:34:33.913 --> 00:34:37.853 So like, is there a character like that here? 00:34:38.133 --> 00:34:40.613 Someone who goes to a rival driving school. 00:34:40.613 --> 00:34:41.713 It's the dog boy. 00:34:42.413 --> 00:34:44.833 The dog boy who goes to a rival driving school. 00:34:44.853 --> 00:34:49.993 And I think they make an exception, because the dog boy never wanted to be a dog, the dog boy wanted to be a cat boy. 00:34:50.013 --> 00:34:56.153 But they were teenage adolescents, there's whole drama there, and they explore that. 00:34:56.253 --> 00:35:07.593 But finally, the dog boy gets accepted in the Cat Boy Academy, Cat Boy in Hot Car Academy, and you know, maybe dog boy ears, cat boy tail, it's like that's the resolution, gets a cat boy tail. 00:35:12.853 --> 00:35:16.033 You suggested cat boys. 00:35:16.033 --> 00:35:16.593 You're right. 00:35:16.693 --> 00:35:22.853 And he's like a really good driver, and they have to learn to drive to like get to his level. 00:35:22.913 --> 00:35:31.773 The teacher, the NASCAR driver, teacher, cat boy, teacher adult, is like using this dog boy as like the perfect example. 00:35:32.173 --> 00:35:33.313 This is how you should drive. 00:35:33.553 --> 00:35:34.733 This is not a human. 00:35:35.073 --> 00:35:36.133 This is an anime. 00:35:36.233 --> 00:35:40.893 And actually says the words, this is an anime in like a gritty tone. 00:35:40.913 --> 00:35:42.653 This is, you are not people. 00:35:42.893 --> 00:35:44.753 You will drive well. 00:35:44.773 --> 00:35:46.953 This is an anime. 00:35:47.393 --> 00:35:48.573 Holy shit. 00:35:48.653 --> 00:35:55.313 The teacher does have like a gritty army voice where it's like, and we're gonna do some fucking pushups. 00:35:56.593 --> 00:35:57.773 This is an anime. 00:35:57.773 --> 00:35:59.453 How will that help with the driving? 00:35:59.573 --> 00:36:03.173 You're gonna need your arm strength and you gotta drive real good. 00:36:03.193 --> 00:36:11.873 And then of course the final competition is them driving around some sort of course as inspired by Canada's Worst Driver courses, which are excellent. 00:36:11.893 --> 00:36:12.613 And they're cats. 00:36:12.693 --> 00:36:14.613 Instead of cones, they have to drive around cats. 00:36:14.933 --> 00:36:19.633 No, because the thing that I'm saying is one of them has to fail at some point. 00:36:19.653 --> 00:36:21.793 That's the drama of it. 00:36:21.993 --> 00:36:27.473 And like almost gonna hit the cat and suddenly dog boy leaps in the way and saves the cat. 00:36:27.613 --> 00:36:29.873 It's like, you almost just killed the cat. 00:36:29.893 --> 00:36:30.833 And it's a whole thing. 00:36:30.853 --> 00:36:31.833 This is anime. 00:36:32.013 --> 00:36:33.733 It's dramatic or out. 00:36:33.893 --> 00:36:39.533 At the end of an episode, it's like you see the person make the mistake, they're going right for the cat and then the episode ends. 00:36:40.473 --> 00:36:43.413 And then it's the next episode and it's like he dives in. 00:36:43.613 --> 00:36:46.933 Come on, we don't have to do the Netflix thing of like what will happen? 00:36:46.953 --> 00:36:47.513 Just kidding. 00:36:47.533 --> 00:36:50.013 We'll resolve it in like the first five minutes. 00:36:50.033 --> 00:36:50.613 Yes, we do. 00:36:50.873 --> 00:36:51.273 Okay. 00:36:51.453 --> 00:36:51.913 All right. 00:36:52.153 --> 00:36:53.553 This is real TV. 00:36:53.573 --> 00:36:54.633 This is real TV. 00:36:54.653 --> 00:36:55.773 This is real anime. 00:36:55.793 --> 00:36:56.873 This is anime. 00:36:56.893 --> 00:36:58.313 We'll get Netflix to produce it. 00:36:58.593 --> 00:37:00.313 Thank you, Netflix, for funding. 00:37:00.413 --> 00:37:02.433 For funding Cat Boys in Hot Cars. 00:37:02.653 --> 00:37:07.153 Watch out for Cat Boys in Hot Cars Academy, a Netflix original coming 2022. 00:37:07.173 --> 00:37:09.173 They need a little bit. 00:37:09.453 --> 00:37:10.173 Thank you so much. 00:37:10.353 --> 00:37:11.093 Is it, is that hard to... 00:37:12.353 --> 00:37:14.533 Oh, um, I thought it was free. 00:37:14.813 --> 00:37:15.973 This is a therapy. 00:37:16.253 --> 00:37:17.813 I am a therapy. 00:37:18.593 --> 00:37:20.153 I am doing a therapy. 00:37:20.413 --> 00:37:22.353 I do not, I expect money. 00:37:22.473 --> 00:37:24.513 Is it not covered under my insurance? 00:37:24.533 --> 00:37:26.733 This is, you don't have insurance. 00:37:26.753 --> 00:37:27.853 This is a therapy. 00:37:27.873 --> 00:37:29.853 Insurance isn't covered by a therapy. 00:37:29.933 --> 00:37:30.453 You're right. 00:37:30.473 --> 00:37:31.933 It is super duper not. 00:37:32.033 --> 00:37:36.553 So will you be paying by Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram at Salt Cravings? 00:37:36.733 --> 00:37:41.333 Um, can I pay you at submissions at saltcravings.com by submitting a craving? 00:37:41.953 --> 00:37:46.293 We only take Patreon donations of one dollar. 00:37:49.013 --> 00:37:57.653 Or if you can't really pay, then I guess you could leave a review on iTunes or Stitcher, or I guess anywhere that accepts ratings. 00:37:57.913 --> 00:37:59.013 I suppose I'll accept. 00:38:01.173 --> 00:38:06.673 I guess I'll just, you know, I'll give a dollar on Patreon for this excellent service you've provided me. 00:38:06.913 --> 00:38:08.593 Thank you so much for seeing me. 00:38:08.673 --> 00:38:09.913 When are you coming back next? 00:38:09.993 --> 00:38:12.233 Do you still have addictions to cravings? 00:38:12.253 --> 00:38:14.753 Yeah, you don't cure addiction like this. 00:38:15.293 --> 00:38:18.213 So what you're saying is I'll see you soon.