SPEAKER_1: Hello, everyone, welcome to Salt Cravings.
SPEAKER_1: My name's Brianna.
SPEAKER_2: And my name's Clair.
SPEAKER_1: And we are not in the same room.
SPEAKER_2: Well, you see, the secret was we were never in the same room.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, that's the secret.
SPEAKER_1: And it's definitely not a change that has happened because of Quarantine.
SPEAKER_1: Quarantine?
SPEAKER_1: Absolutely not.
SPEAKER_2: Is that like half of half and teen?
SPEAKER_1: It's like a court of teens.
SPEAKER_2: Oh no, that's really messy.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, it's pretty messy, but that's-
SPEAKER_1: Wait, okay, all right, all right.
SPEAKER_2: I just wanna like, so like a court is really small.
SPEAKER_2: So are these teens like tiny or have you gone the like body horror route?
SPEAKER_1: I've gone the route of not body horror.
SPEAKER_1: They're very tiny teens.
SPEAKER_2: They're very tiny teens.
SPEAKER_1: The other day, me and some friends were having a conversation over the internet because hey, we can't leave our houses right now, fun fact.
SPEAKER_1: We were discussing how well we think we could take care of a phone sized person.
SPEAKER_1: What?
SPEAKER_2: Whoa, wait, which phone size?
SPEAKER_2: Cause like, are you talking about like a phone booth?
SPEAKER_2: Because then it's just a person.
SPEAKER_1: No, no, no.
SPEAKER_1: I mean like a cell phone.
SPEAKER_2: So a hamster.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: How, how would that go for you?
SPEAKER_2: Well, I have a cat, so I feel like I could take care of a hamster.
SPEAKER_2: What was your answer?
SPEAKER_1: I mean, my answer is I think I could do it.
SPEAKER_1: It would be a challenge, especially if we were kind of thinking of them as like a child, and it feels like it'd be really easy to lose your child in that scenario.
SPEAKER_2: Okay, my child just fell between the couch cushions.
SPEAKER_1: Listen, it happens, you know?
SPEAKER_1: It's a thing that can happen to you.
SPEAKER_1: Anyway, if the audio sounds distinctly different between Clair and I, it's because I'm using my computer mic and Clair is using our normal mic.
SPEAKER_1: We are doing our best here.
SPEAKER_1: And you know what?
SPEAKER_1: It's all okay.
SPEAKER_1: I think really it's a testament to our love for our fans that we even have an episode over this period of time.
SPEAKER_1: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_1: So without further ado, throw that ado out the window.
SPEAKER_1: Get that ado out of the quarantine.
SPEAKER_2: Are we done with the do?
SPEAKER_1: We're done with the do.
SPEAKER_1: Now we're into the cravings.
SPEAKER_1: Clair, if you would, please, what is your first craving?
SPEAKER_2: So I scrolled back through my sort of backlog and I found two cravings that are extremely relevant.
SPEAKER_2: So of course I had to go with them.
SPEAKER_2: So today I'm going to bring as my second craving, no spoilers, literally the first craving I ever put on the list.
SPEAKER_2: But before we get to that, my first craving, which is not the first craving that was ever on my list, try to keep up, is having a birth.
SPEAKER_1: No, it's pretty easy.
SPEAKER_1: It's two is one, but one is not one.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_2: You know, just change the pointers, computer logic and funny jokes.
SPEAKER_2: Anyways, so my craving is having a birthday and getting to celebrate me with no guilt, which is very aft because I canceled my birthday this year because of the pandemic.
SPEAKER_2: So I'm really craving this.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, it was, you know, it's one of those situations where it's the right call for everyone's health and safety.
SPEAKER_2: It absolutely is.
SPEAKER_1: But goddamnit, Clair, you deserve to celebrate you.
SPEAKER_2: I feel like a five-year-old where I'm like, eh, I don't understand, I can't have my birthday.
SPEAKER_2: But at the same time, I'm like, yes, I understand it's an extremely bad idea.
SPEAKER_2: But also like, I want, well, no, I don't want presents.
SPEAKER_2: I want people to celebrate me, come worship me for like five hours.
SPEAKER_1: I think you deserve that.
SPEAKER_1: I think you do.
SPEAKER_1: I think in the grand scheme of things, you should be worshiped by the people in your life.
SPEAKER_2: Oh God, okay.
SPEAKER_1: I think that makes sense.
SPEAKER_2: I mean, it makes sense.
SPEAKER_1: All hail Clair.
SPEAKER_2: All hail Clair.
SPEAKER_2: This is super normal.
SPEAKER_1: All hail Clair.
SPEAKER_2: Do we just have to kill the virus?
SPEAKER_1: I mean, I suspect-
SPEAKER_2: Do we have an E birthday?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I mean, there have been people who I know have been doing, who have birthdays around this time, who have been doing E birthdays of some kind.
SPEAKER_2: This is not just me.
SPEAKER_2: I've been seeing it happen to like a lot of people on my dashboard.
SPEAKER_2: Like a lot of people are very upset.
SPEAKER_1: Instead of being birthday boys and girls, they're being birthday E boys and E girls.
SPEAKER_1: And you could be a birthday E girl, I think.
SPEAKER_1: I think you have that in you.
SPEAKER_1: What is the energy-
SPEAKER_1: Go get your cat ears, Clair.
SPEAKER_1: Seems like a birthday E girl move.
SPEAKER_2: Wait, I'm trying to think.
SPEAKER_2: Do I have cat ears in my room?
SPEAKER_2: I might have broken them.
SPEAKER_2: I think I broke them.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, I think I accidentally broke them one day because I wore them to like one event and then like, I don't even remember.
SPEAKER_2: They were nice, but they weren't that nice, so they broke.
SPEAKER_2: I'm not going to go get them because this is an audio medium.
SPEAKER_1: Fair, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair.
SPEAKER_1: I guess you can't be a birthday E girl.
SPEAKER_1: So we'll just have to come up with something else.
SPEAKER_1: What is it specifically that you're looking for that you couldn't get from doing an E birthday?
SPEAKER_1: Tell me, tell me what is it that is specifically related about having people come over to your place?
SPEAKER_2: Well, we'll see, the craving is about getting to celebrate me with no guilt.
SPEAKER_2: I guess I wrote this back in a time where I felt guilty about people thinking about me.
SPEAKER_1: I don't know if that's a mood.
SPEAKER_2: I don't feel that way anymore, but also-
SPEAKER_1: I definitely get that mood sometimes still though.
SPEAKER_1: I'm like, oh God, people are thinking about me.
SPEAKER_1: Oh no, how could I fucking do this to them?
SPEAKER_1: How could I be a presence in their life?
SPEAKER_2: We have to erase your presence from all of existence.
SPEAKER_2: That's the thing.
SPEAKER_2: It's like Matrix.
SPEAKER_2: They did that in The Matrix, right?
SPEAKER_1: I just saw The Matrix for the first time the other day.
SPEAKER_1: I don't think they erased someone's existence from The Matrix, but they probably could.
SPEAKER_2: Probably.
SPEAKER_1: I think if you get erased from The Matrix in that-
SPEAKER_2: You get erased in real life?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, you're either jacked out or you have been erased from real life also.
SPEAKER_1: What's less guilt-causing than having people literally not have to expend the energy to leave their home?
SPEAKER_2: So what you're saying is never have a birthday again.
SPEAKER_2: Just never age.
SPEAKER_1: No, I'm saying if people can get into your birthday by just going on their computers, much less intensive.
SPEAKER_1: And they can celebrate you just as well with this new eBirthday party software that we're going to develop.
SPEAKER_2: What's it called?
SPEAKER_2: Please don't just tell me it's called eBirthday.
SPEAKER_1: No, it's called...
SPEAKER_1: No, I know what it is.
SPEAKER_2: I know what it is.
SPEAKER_1: Because the quarantine is happening, right?
SPEAKER_1: So it's birth and teen.
SPEAKER_1: What's better?
SPEAKER_1: Okay, birth book.
SPEAKER_1: So on birth book.
SPEAKER_2: God, no, none of these are good.
SPEAKER_2: I don't even care about the name.
SPEAKER_2: Use any of them.
SPEAKER_2: Interchange them.
SPEAKER_2: Just switch whatever you want.
SPEAKER_2: The thing about this app is it doesn't have one name.
SPEAKER_1: Quarantine Birth by Quarantine Birthday Birth Book is an app where you send out an invite, everyone goes in and they make avatars of themselves.
SPEAKER_1: They're just really detailed character makers so that people can really look like themselves.
SPEAKER_2: Is it like the crew?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, it's like the crew, but they're like actual character models that can move around.
SPEAKER_1: And then you have a 3D modeled space of your house.
SPEAKER_1: And you have everyone have their avatars move around inside your 3D modeled house.
SPEAKER_2: Oh my god, okay, this gave me an even better idea.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, I don't know how it can be better than the perfect idea I just came up with, but continue.
SPEAKER_2: All right, so what we're gonna do, do you know what a raspberry pie is?
SPEAKER_2: The one you can't eat.
SPEAKER_1: So it's like a poisonous raspberry pie?
SPEAKER_2: No, no, like the hardware.
SPEAKER_1: I've heard the term raspberry pie before, but I don't know what you're referring to, and also probably the listeners don't either.
SPEAKER_2: Yes, I was asking you, but I was going to explain it anyways, but I'll explain it to you.
SPEAKER_1: It's like PI, right?
SPEAKER_1: Raspberry PI?
SPEAKER_2: Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_2: What it is, it's basically a very lightweight computer that you can very quickly program something, but the best part of it is you can make like little moving cars really easily, really quickly.
SPEAKER_2: So what we're going to do is we're going to incorporate your idea of avatars moving around, but what we're going to do is we're going to log everybody into one of these cars, and then they're just going to like in real life be moving around in the car.
SPEAKER_2: So now you as an avatar are in the space, and you're like, yes, I'm here, I'm in the space, but in real life, you are a car, and then we're going to play board games, and it's going to be your car.
SPEAKER_1: Sorry, I'm...
SPEAKER_2: It doesn't have to be a car.
SPEAKER_1: Where is one the car?
SPEAKER_2: What?
SPEAKER_1: So wait, in real life, one is the car?
SPEAKER_2: You are a car in real life.
SPEAKER_1: How does one become a car?
SPEAKER_2: You log in to the virtual app system, whatever, that has the scan, the 3D scan of the place.
SPEAKER_2: And so in your brain mind, you can see that you're there, right?
SPEAKER_2: But then the person who you are celebrating is not there.
SPEAKER_2: They have like headphones on or something, so they can still hear everybody.
SPEAKER_2: But then everybody's just cars, and so they can walk around with everyone.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, I understand what you mean now.
SPEAKER_1: I was like, how are we transforming people into cars?
SPEAKER_2: So we're going to transform people into cars.
SPEAKER_1: Now what you're saying to me is you're like, Jesus Christ, that's even better.
SPEAKER_2: No, cars can't get sick.
SPEAKER_2: Listen, cars can't get sick.
SPEAKER_2: I have a car, and this is science.
SPEAKER_2: Cars can't get sick.
SPEAKER_1: That's just not true.
SPEAKER_1: Cars get sick all the time.
SPEAKER_1: They just get sick different.
SPEAKER_2: Name one disease that infects cars.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, gotcha.
SPEAKER_1: When an engine fails?
SPEAKER_2: That's not a disease.
SPEAKER_2: That's like...
SPEAKER_2: I mean, look, your engine can fail too.
SPEAKER_2: That's not a disease.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, so what you're saying here is people's lifespan is...
SPEAKER_2: We're going to animorph into a car.
SPEAKER_1: Right, but people's lifespan is going to be significantly restricted.
SPEAKER_2: Well, they're never going to die because they're a car.
SPEAKER_2: If by restricted, you mean it's not a thing anymore because they live forever because they are a car.
SPEAKER_1: You know cars die, right?
SPEAKER_2: Not, well, okay.
SPEAKER_1: I need to know some facts about this.
SPEAKER_2: All right, cool.
SPEAKER_1: And mostly I need to know what are the parts of a car that are equivalent to the parts of a human.
SPEAKER_1: What is the car's heart?
SPEAKER_1: What is the car's asshole?
SPEAKER_2: The exhaust is obviously like the intestines, right?
SPEAKER_1: Is that not the ass?
SPEAKER_2: Well, guess where the intestines go?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I just meant the exhaust pipe is the ass.
SPEAKER_2: At what point does the ass stop and the intestines begin?
SPEAKER_1: I'm sure medical doctors have an answer for you.
SPEAKER_2: Medical doctors hate this.
SPEAKER_2: What's the sphincter turn into?
SPEAKER_2: Do you just lose your sphincter?
SPEAKER_1: Right, this is the thing.
SPEAKER_1: Not everything is going to be able to move over one to one.
SPEAKER_1: For example, how do you fuck when you're a car?
SPEAKER_2: Okay, so go to Dragon's fucking Cars on Reddit.
SPEAKER_1: Don't fucking talk to me about Dragon's fucking Cars.
SPEAKER_2: I think I just answered your question though.
SPEAKER_2: Also, don't go to Dragon's fucking Cars on Reddit, whatever you do.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, don't do that.
SPEAKER_1: Can one transform back?
SPEAKER_2: Hmm, so like, what if we just became transformers is what you're saying?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, which I'm kind of more cool with.
SPEAKER_1: I feel like I might have weird car dysphoria if I were to become a car.
SPEAKER_1: Maybe you could become a helicopter.
SPEAKER_1: God, yeah, we could all transform into vehicles.
SPEAKER_1: That's an option.
SPEAKER_2: Now, there is the other option.
SPEAKER_2: I do want to get back on track where the point of turning into cars is to become not-
SPEAKER_1: You don't want to get back on the road, you want to get back on track.
SPEAKER_2: Maybe we should become trains.
SPEAKER_1: That would take some training.
SPEAKER_2: Yes.
SPEAKER_2: But can transformers get sick?
SPEAKER_2: I feel like there was an entire movie about this.
SPEAKER_1: This is a good question.
SPEAKER_2: I feel like there's at least been three arcs about this.
SPEAKER_1: I think that you're right.
SPEAKER_1: I'm going to Google, can transformers get sick?
SPEAKER_1: Oh, the first option.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, no.
SPEAKER_1: I want you to know what the first option that came up that was not...
SPEAKER_1: When I typed in can transformers get, the first option was not get sick.
SPEAKER_1: It was get pregnant.
SPEAKER_2: Get pregnant?
SPEAKER_2: I knew it.
SPEAKER_1: What do you want me to search for, sick or pregnant?
SPEAKER_1: This is a choose your own adventure now.
SPEAKER_2: God.
SPEAKER_2: Okay.
SPEAKER_2: All right.
SPEAKER_2: You know, my immediate thought was...
SPEAKER_1: It's your first day, and you'll cry about transformers getting pregnant if you want to.
SPEAKER_2: But how good are the results you think for sick?
SPEAKER_1: They're probably mostly, yeah, in this one episode.
SPEAKER_2: But how badly do you want search results to be completely and forever changed?
SPEAKER_2: You can't go back.
SPEAKER_2: Look, Brianna, you can only search, can transformers get pregnant once?
SPEAKER_2: And I think your computer breaks after that.
SPEAKER_1: That's a risk I might have to take.
SPEAKER_2: Okay, do it.
SPEAKER_1: Can transformers get pregnant?
SPEAKER_1: In the transformers animated continuity, it seems clear that transformers do not reproduce sexually.
SPEAKER_2: Oh my God, I'm so glad.
SPEAKER_2: That's the end of the answer, right?
SPEAKER_1: Transformers do not reproduce sexually, but they can be gay.
SPEAKER_1: This is a thing that is true in transformers canon.
SPEAKER_2: Of course.
SPEAKER_1: They're gay and trans transformers, which is delightful.
SPEAKER_1: So yeah, we're all transformers now.
SPEAKER_1: And we can turn into humans and also into cars.
SPEAKER_2: Oh wait, we can turn into humans?
SPEAKER_1: We're super transformers.
SPEAKER_1: We can grow flesh.
SPEAKER_2: Doesn't this like mean we can still get sick?
SPEAKER_1: I guess it does.
SPEAKER_1: Fine, no more humans.
SPEAKER_1: We're all just robot people now.
SPEAKER_1: We're all just robots now.
SPEAKER_1: This was what I always wanted anyway.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we solved it.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, we're just going to become cars.
SPEAKER_2: This is on my birthday when I hit 25, which when this comes out is yesterday.
SPEAKER_2: So I guess by the time you hear this, I'll be a car.
SPEAKER_2: What's my license plate?
SPEAKER_2: Is it Egirl?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_2: B-D-E-girl.
SPEAKER_1: B-D-E-girl.
SPEAKER_2: I think this solves the craving.
SPEAKER_2: Do you want to transmit your craving over these waves?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I would love to.
SPEAKER_1: So it's sort of similar, but it's a little bit, it's still quarantine related.
SPEAKER_1: This is the quarantine themed episode.
SPEAKER_2: You know, you really wanted to like get your mind off it.
SPEAKER_2: Listen to some comedy.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, we're doing it.
SPEAKER_1: Listen, when we do our next episode, it will also probably be a quarantine episode, depending on how long this goes.
SPEAKER_1: We will not do it.
SPEAKER_1: But this one, this one's Quarantine, Baybee.
SPEAKER_1: And this one, I'm having a craving to be able to see my girlfriend without breaking the quarantine.
SPEAKER_2: Wow, relatable.
SPEAKER_1: I just like, I miss her.
SPEAKER_1: So I just want to be able to see my girlfriend.
SPEAKER_2: So how are we fixing this?
SPEAKER_2: How are we solving it?
SPEAKER_2: Is it going to be like, hmm, oh my God.
SPEAKER_2: All right, all right, all right, all right.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, you have it?
SPEAKER_2: You know those like hamster balls.
SPEAKER_2: What if we get those?
SPEAKER_2: We can just all roll around in quarantine balls.
SPEAKER_1: I will say, I think a part of the desire...
SPEAKER_2: Look, I think capitalism will love this because it increases our productivity.
SPEAKER_1: I hate this now.
SPEAKER_1: Now that you've explained this to me.
SPEAKER_1: The thing is, I kind of also would love to be able to touch.
SPEAKER_2: Okay, all right, all right.
SPEAKER_2: So there's, get this.
SPEAKER_2: In the hamster ball, there's a little window.
SPEAKER_2: There's a square window where you roll around and you can like open it and it opens up.
SPEAKER_2: But the thing is, it doesn't open up to like the outside.
SPEAKER_2: What it opens up to is sort of like, you know, like a latex glove, but if you stretch it, basically you can stick your hand into the square and it becomes like a latex glove over your hand.
SPEAKER_2: And now you can touch each other.
SPEAKER_2: Perfect.
SPEAKER_2: Excellent solution.
SPEAKER_1: Okay.
SPEAKER_2: Now you can hold hands.
SPEAKER_1: Now, Clair, I just really quickly, like, let's pretend the audience is not here.
SPEAKER_1: Just for a minute.
SPEAKER_2: I mean, they're not.
SPEAKER_1: And let's talk about some of the other things one might want to do with their partner.
SPEAKER_2: Watch TV.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, fuck, we could use the Netflix party thing.
SPEAKER_2: Paint.
SPEAKER_1: So there's that.
SPEAKER_1: What are other things one might want to do with their partner that involve touching in some way, other than just holding hands?
SPEAKER_2: Um, I'm really drawing a blank.
SPEAKER_1: What about kissing?
SPEAKER_2: Well, yeah, but I mean, you can kiss through the latex.
SPEAKER_1: Great.
SPEAKER_2: You can change the flavor of the latex, so it can be like strawberry flavor.
SPEAKER_1: So it's a dental dam.
SPEAKER_2: Yes.
SPEAKER_2: What's a catchy name?
SPEAKER_2: What's a fun catchy name that doesn't make it sound like a hamster ball?
SPEAKER_2: The Quarren ball.
SPEAKER_2: The Quarren ball has flavored dental dams for your pleasure.
SPEAKER_2: You can touch them.
SPEAKER_2: You can kiss through them.
SPEAKER_2: You can do anything you want through them.
SPEAKER_1: Whoa.
SPEAKER_2: Actually, wait.
SPEAKER_2: So I know I've brought this up before, but you know those green suits at Halloween?
SPEAKER_1: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_2: What if it was just that but a dental dam?
SPEAKER_1: We are so far into kink territory.
SPEAKER_1: Um, I can't deal with this.
SPEAKER_2: Look, sometimes the kinky people have, like, a point.
SPEAKER_2: If you just cover your entire body with latex, you can't catch anything.
SPEAKER_1: I...
SPEAKER_1: I guess?
SPEAKER_2: You can become the condom.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I guess you could.
SPEAKER_1: So what if...
SPEAKER_2: What if not that?
SPEAKER_1: What if, yeah, what if just not that?
SPEAKER_1: Is there anything else?
SPEAKER_2: Is there anything else that would help us?
SPEAKER_2: Hmm.
SPEAKER_2: Okay.
SPEAKER_2: All right.
SPEAKER_2: So do you remember a bit ago, there was, like, someone came out with a hand or a glove where you could basically insert your hand into it, and then someone else has, like, an electronic hand, and then you can control it from far distance.
SPEAKER_1: Yes, this does exist, yes.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah.
SPEAKER_2: So that?
SPEAKER_1: But a whole person.
SPEAKER_2: So you want to upload your consciousness.
SPEAKER_2: So you want to San Junipero this shit.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I was thinking more of just, like, a weird astral projection type of motion capture thing.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, my God.
SPEAKER_2: What if you just astral project into each other?
SPEAKER_1: That's...
SPEAKER_1: I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_2: Astral project me, daddy.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, thanks.
SPEAKER_1: I hate it.
SPEAKER_2: You're welcome.
SPEAKER_1: I like the astral projection option.
SPEAKER_1: I like the San Junipero option.
SPEAKER_1: Let's talk about the San Junipero option.
SPEAKER_2: We all upload our consciousness to a big machine, and then we're happy because, hey, maybe Transformers can get sick, but they probably wouldn't program sickness into it.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I think the whole thing about San Junipero is that as long as the data, as long as the servers keep running, basically, you're alive.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: And you can be immortal and gay forever.
SPEAKER_2: Hell yeah.
SPEAKER_1: Sounds pretty dope.
SPEAKER_1: I'm into that.
SPEAKER_1: I'm feeling it.
SPEAKER_1: I like the San Junipero option.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, let's talk about what is our San Junipero server world look like?
SPEAKER_1: What is this world that we've uploaded our consciousness to?
SPEAKER_1: This is the important question, right?
SPEAKER_1: It's like, what is our digital world look like?
SPEAKER_2: So I just started playing Digimon Cyber Sleuth, which is a very different, like, cyber aesthetic to San Junipero.
SPEAKER_2: For anyone who hasn't watched San Junipero, go watch it.
SPEAKER_2: I'm not going to describe it.
SPEAKER_2: Go watch it.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_2: I'm not describing it because you have to go watch it.
SPEAKER_1: San Junipero is an episode of Black Mirror.
SPEAKER_1: I've never seen any other episode of Black Mirror.
SPEAKER_2: No one has.
SPEAKER_2: No one actually watches Black Mirror except San Junipero.
SPEAKER_2: If you watch Black Mirror, you're not real.
SPEAKER_2: Anyways, so Digimon Cybersleuth, I will explain, because people don't have to play the game, is like your typical, instead of having living on a sphere, you live in a sphere because you don't have to have physics in a digital world so you can sort of live on the outside of the inside of a sphere.
SPEAKER_2: Did that make sense?
SPEAKER_1: None of that made even any sense at all.
SPEAKER_2: Great.
SPEAKER_2: Do you know in Inception, remember when the city starts folding?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_2: Imagine that, but it's like inside a sphere.
SPEAKER_1: Yes, okay, I understand.
SPEAKER_2: So you're inside the sphere instead of outside the sphere.
SPEAKER_2: You can basically look up and see more city because the lighting is artificial.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_2: So it's like that, but like you can have all sorts of wild and wacky shapes to your world and also like physics don't apply.
SPEAKER_2: Or maybe they do.
SPEAKER_2: Hey, are we having physics in our world?
SPEAKER_2: Is physics cool now?
SPEAKER_2: Do people like physics?
SPEAKER_2: What's your take on physics?
SPEAKER_1: I think people would like physics if they just weren't so rules heavy.
SPEAKER_1: You can edit your physics.
SPEAKER_1: It's kind of a crunchy system.
SPEAKER_1: Crunchy physics.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I think the crunchiness of the physics really like makes it alienating for a lot of players.
SPEAKER_1: So I think if we can really simplify the physics and do new cool physics, physics too, that would be just great.
SPEAKER_1: So I see you've brought me physics here.
SPEAKER_1: Could you just make it, I like the design, but could you just make it much simpler and also more fun?
SPEAKER_1: You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_2: More fun.
SPEAKER_1: So could you just do that for me?
SPEAKER_1: Could you just do that for me?
SPEAKER_1: Thanks.
SPEAKER_1: I'll add some colors.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, just make it fun.
SPEAKER_2: I'll add some quirks to it.
SPEAKER_1: Tell me about some of these quirks you're going to add.
SPEAKER_2: That's a really funny joke.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, quirks of course.
SPEAKER_2: I'm incredibly funny, Brianna.
SPEAKER_2: I never actually finished describing Cybersleuths, where it's like all sort of the opulence like surfaces are shiny and like opal colored as is the term of opulence.
SPEAKER_2: You sort of have a city in the sky.
SPEAKER_2: On like a slider between that and San Junipero, where we want that slider to be.
SPEAKER_2: Do we want like floating islands?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_1: Why not?
SPEAKER_1: I think...
SPEAKER_2: I want a waterfall that I can like ride down and then when I get to the bottom of the waterfall, I'm back at the top of the waterfall.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, that sounds cool as hell.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, what if it's kind of like an MMO?
SPEAKER_1: Okay, great.
SPEAKER_2: This is our territory.
SPEAKER_1: And in that way, you can build your own structures and mod things.
SPEAKER_1: It's sort of like The Matrix also.
SPEAKER_1: It's like what if San Junipero was Cybersleuth's, was an MMO, was The Matrix?
SPEAKER_2: You're gonna have to be more specific.
SPEAKER_2: Give me like one detail.
SPEAKER_1: You can just make stuff happen and appear and change.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_2: Good.
SPEAKER_2: Normal.
SPEAKER_1: I feel like the aesthetic should change constantly.
SPEAKER_1: I think it should be the thing.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, there's like Patrolysis.
SPEAKER_2: It's like Fortnite.
SPEAKER_1: Or it's like the community voting on what sort of aesthetic they want on a given day.
SPEAKER_2: They're gonna make Boaty McBoat faces, but forever.
SPEAKER_2: This is Graphics McGraphics face.
SPEAKER_2: This is Physics McPhysics face.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: I think we should also be able to choose our own servers, because I think that would fix it.
SPEAKER_2: So this is just second life, but third life?
SPEAKER_2: We're making third life?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, it's third life.
SPEAKER_1: And the crucial thing here is you can feel through your character.
SPEAKER_1: Your character is you.
SPEAKER_2: Maybe I feel through my second life character.
SPEAKER_2: Maybe my second life character has feelings, Brianna.
SPEAKER_1: I mean, they probably do.
SPEAKER_1: But I mean, physically, like, if you touch someone in third life, you feel like you're touching them.
SPEAKER_1: It's hardwired to your brain.
SPEAKER_1: It's like the Matrix in that way.
SPEAKER_2: Question.
SPEAKER_1: Yes.
SPEAKER_2: Can you turn a pain slider on?
SPEAKER_2: Or more important question, can you turn a pain slider off?
SPEAKER_1: I think so.
SPEAKER_1: Listen, I'm saying I'm doing the most utopic vision here.
SPEAKER_2: And in my utopia, there's no pain.
SPEAKER_1: You could probably have pain on if you want it.
SPEAKER_2: Yo, boxing is pretty cool in this world, ain't it?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, boxing is cool as hell.
SPEAKER_1: You can just, like, punch someone out, and they won't feel a thing.
SPEAKER_2: Do they still get knocked out, or do they just go like, yup?
SPEAKER_1: This is a question of how deep the simulation goes.
SPEAKER_2: All right, all right.
SPEAKER_1: Because here's the question.
SPEAKER_1: Here's e-boxing, though.
SPEAKER_1: Can you get a concussion from things you do in third life?
SPEAKER_2: In third life, I think you can set parameters in terms of, like, where rules take place.
SPEAKER_2: So imagine a boxing ring, but when you step into the boxing ring, there are sliders that are automatically applied to your character, so now you can get knocked out.
SPEAKER_2: This is great, because now we can apply different settings to different areas, which means, like, we can have, like, a dance party, where if you walk into the dance party, you just know how to dance.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, this is the matrix.
SPEAKER_1: What we're describing is the matrix, but better.
SPEAKER_1: We're describing the matrix, but good.
SPEAKER_1: Which is fine, because we're under quarantine right now.
SPEAKER_2: Hey, here's my rule.
SPEAKER_2: Whenever you walk into the girlfriend zone, it pings girlfriend and be like, hello, please come, girlfriend zone.
SPEAKER_1: I like that.
SPEAKER_1: That's fun.
SPEAKER_1: My one question here, so one of the bad aspects of the matrix, I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_1: One of them?
SPEAKER_1: This is really the main thing that grossed me out when I watched it.
SPEAKER_1: In terms of sustenance, your actual body in the real world is constantly eating this liquid that is dead people.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_1: Which is something they just mention at one point.
SPEAKER_2: I don't remember that.
SPEAKER_1: They liquefy the dead and then feed them to you.
SPEAKER_1: Which is a very dystopian vision.
SPEAKER_2: What are they going to do with it?
SPEAKER_1: I'm saying, how do you feed yourself?
SPEAKER_2: Look, we're all dead people on the inside.
SPEAKER_1: No, I'm just going to go ahead and say, I think, because here's the problem with our super cool third life vision, is the Matrix has a whole lot of things like your muscles atrophy, because you've never used them before in your life.
SPEAKER_1: You don't grow hair on your head.
SPEAKER_1: You eat like the dead.
SPEAKER_1: Is this just like you log on, you put the headset on and you're in third life and everything's fine, and then you can pop out to eat meals and stuff?
SPEAKER_1: Is that how we're doing this?
SPEAKER_2: That's how it starts.
SPEAKER_2: That's how it always starts.
SPEAKER_1: Don't think that's how it started in the Matrix, but continue.
SPEAKER_2: Look, there's animes.
SPEAKER_2: I don't even want to...
SPEAKER_2: There's some...
SPEAKER_2: If you watch anime, you know the bad anime I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_1: You can say Sword Art Online.
SPEAKER_2: No, it's forbidden.
SPEAKER_1: You can say the words Sword Art Online.
SPEAKER_2: Gross, bad.
SPEAKER_2: Why would you do this to me?
SPEAKER_1: Got him.
SPEAKER_1: I've never seen it, so I can say it.
SPEAKER_1: That's how it starts, though.
SPEAKER_1: And that's where it ends, right?
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, we're just gonna live here forever.
SPEAKER_2: Are we done?
SPEAKER_2: I feel like we made the perfect solution, honestly, to both of our first Cravings.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, we did it.
SPEAKER_1: We made third life.
SPEAKER_1: Uh, Clair, won't you give me another Craving?
SPEAKER_2: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: Won't you please?
SPEAKER_1: Please, Clair.
SPEAKER_2: No, okay, I'm gonna hang up.
SPEAKER_1: Goodbye.
SPEAKER_2: So this is the first Craving I ever wrote down.
SPEAKER_1: Okay.
SPEAKER_2: And I think it's really funny, given the circumstances.
SPEAKER_2: The Craving is video calling.
SPEAKER_1: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_2: So I think video calling is a really neat way to communicate.
SPEAKER_2: It helps us a lot in our life.
SPEAKER_2: Weirdly enough, I don't know how we would survive in this time without it.
SPEAKER_1: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_2: The thing about video calling, though, is, and we experienced this today, it isn't a perfect art form.
SPEAKER_1: It really is not.
SPEAKER_1: We're just gonna peek behind the curtain for a second.
SPEAKER_2: Just gonna lift that up.
SPEAKER_1: We attempted to do a call on Discord, and despite the fact that I had been doing a call on Discord earlier today and it was working fine, I was not able to hear Clair's audio at all.
SPEAKER_1: I could see her, couldn't hear her.
SPEAKER_1: So now we're on Skype, and Skype sucks.
SPEAKER_2: Skype sucks, turns out.
SPEAKER_1: Skype sucks a lot.
SPEAKER_2: Skype get good.
SPEAKER_1: I also suggested Facebook, but you were adamantly against that.
SPEAKER_2: I absolutely refuse Facebook, like on principle.
SPEAKER_1: Fair.
SPEAKER_2: Skype probably isn't better, but I mean...
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I was gonna say it's Facebook vs.
SPEAKER_1: Microsoft.
SPEAKER_2: Well, I will say Microsoft is trying to be good vs.
SPEAKER_2: Facebook has literally never once in their life even tried ever.
SPEAKER_1: True.
SPEAKER_2: So, hey, I mean, at least one bar is off the ground.
SPEAKER_1: I don't know that I would say Microsoft's bar is off the ground.
SPEAKER_1: I would say it's on the ground, I'd say Facebook's is underground.
SPEAKER_2: They buried it.
SPEAKER_1: It's in hell.
SPEAKER_1: We just need to make the perfect video calling platform, is what you're saying.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah.
SPEAKER_2: Now, the problem with this is, like, people want a video call on all their devices, and that's...
SPEAKER_1: Yeah...
SPEAKER_2: .
SPEAKER_2: hard.
SPEAKER_1: You can't just expect them to log in to Third Life.
SPEAKER_2: Wait, can you video call in Third Life?
SPEAKER_2: Can you open up a panel in front of you and be like, Hi, now we're video calling?
SPEAKER_1: You could, but that feels like a lot to do.
SPEAKER_1: Like, if you're at work, you're not going to have your Third Life set up there.
SPEAKER_1: You know, people need to video call in all sorts of different scenarios.
SPEAKER_1: You can't just expect Third Life to always be there for you.
SPEAKER_2: I just want, like, good video calling.
SPEAKER_2: I want robust video calling.
SPEAKER_2: I want video calling that, like, we could record the audio of the call, and that would be good enough.
SPEAKER_1: That would be great.
SPEAKER_2: I understand on a technical level how this works, and I know for a fact we are nowhere near that, and I don't even know if that's even feasible.
SPEAKER_1: It's not feasible if you use the internet, but...
SPEAKER_2: That's true.
SPEAKER_2: If you just landline everything to everything.
SPEAKER_1: Well, that was one option.
SPEAKER_1: I was thinking the internet too, but I like the landline.
SPEAKER_2: Tell me about internet too.
SPEAKER_1: We tried internet one.
SPEAKER_2: It's powered by ants.
SPEAKER_1: Yes.
SPEAKER_2: It's just a network of ants.
SPEAKER_1: You're surprisingly close to where I was going, which is...
SPEAKER_2: I hate this.
SPEAKER_1: We've tried internet one and we used like cables.
SPEAKER_1: We've used fiber optics.
SPEAKER_1: Like we've tried all those materials.
SPEAKER_1: Organic though.
SPEAKER_1: We haven't tried organic yet.
SPEAKER_2: Oh.
SPEAKER_1: So I'm talking organic internet.
SPEAKER_1: I'm talking internet, but we have the use of organic stuff to do it.
SPEAKER_2: So it's like string cheese or is it like dirt?
SPEAKER_2: How organic are we going?
SPEAKER_1: I was thinking vines.
SPEAKER_1: What if your cable wasn't a cable, it was a vine?
SPEAKER_1: You know?
SPEAKER_2: That's pretty cool.
SPEAKER_1: What I'm saying is we're going to bring back vine and...
SPEAKER_2: This is vine three.
SPEAKER_1: Vine three, the internet, the whole internet.
SPEAKER_2: The whole internet is now vine.
SPEAKER_2: Vine had to die so that the internet may live.
SPEAKER_1: Video calling, but it's all vines.
SPEAKER_1: You can only send six-second clips to each other in the vine, the internet too.
SPEAKER_1: But the quality is impeccable.
SPEAKER_1: The quality is incredible.
SPEAKER_1: It's like unbelievable.
SPEAKER_2: Everyone gets really good at talking extremely fast because you only have six seconds to talk.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, it's like all you have time for is sending a six-second thing.
SPEAKER_1: This might expedite some business stuff, you know?
SPEAKER_1: There'd be a lot less kind of talking around things like, oh, you know, we'll think about talking about, maybe put on the agenda, table this thing.
SPEAKER_2: Make a meeting about it.
SPEAKER_1: Now it's like, no, just fully flat out.
SPEAKER_2: Sign the deal, Larry.
SPEAKER_1: And that's it.
SPEAKER_1: That's the whole thing.
SPEAKER_1: It's sort of like telegrams.
SPEAKER_2: But like literally not telegrams because those took so long.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, now it's instant.
SPEAKER_1: It's like instant telegrams.
SPEAKER_2: It's like telecommuting?
SPEAKER_2: Telecommunication.
SPEAKER_2: Telecommunication, a new word that I've just made up.
SPEAKER_1: That's an interesting word.
SPEAKER_1: Where does that come from?
SPEAKER_2: Well, you see tele as in the T stands for tree, the E stands for electronic, the L stands for lost, and the E stands for expedite.
SPEAKER_2: It's the tree electronic lost expedite.
SPEAKER_2: It's a perfect acronym.
SPEAKER_1: I think that this makes a lot of sense.
SPEAKER_2: What's the actual acronym?
SPEAKER_2: Here, look, I'm just making this up.
SPEAKER_1: No, that's it.
SPEAKER_2: I'm gonna be real with you.
SPEAKER_2: No, I think there's a different acronym.
SPEAKER_2: Brianna, can you help me remember what the actual acronym for it?
SPEAKER_2: Now, I will say, I do remember that the first word is trees.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: So, wait, so for telecommunication?
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, T-E-L-E dash communication.
SPEAKER_2: What does tele stand for?
SPEAKER_1: Trees.
SPEAKER_2: Trees exist literally everywhere.
SPEAKER_1: Trees exist literally everywhere.
SPEAKER_1: I'm glad you remembered it.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, I'm so glad I remembered it.
SPEAKER_1: The other benefit to our new system, Vine 3, the Internet 2, is that it doesn't use any electricity.
SPEAKER_1: It just uses organic...
SPEAKER_2: Photosynthesis.
SPEAKER_1: Photosynthesis.
SPEAKER_2: Look, I learned about this in grade 8, and it applies to today.
SPEAKER_2: Our whole Internet runs on photosynthesis.
SPEAKER_1: And we can also use that in ads where it can be like, synthesis, you know, because business people love the word synthesis.
SPEAKER_1: So it's like, synthesis, photo.
SPEAKER_2: Wait, in what context?
SPEAKER_2: Is it just like a logo where it's just like, synthesis, and it's just like a white logo on a black background because everything's a minimalist for some reason?
SPEAKER_1: I was imagining sort of a vibe of a bunch of words coming across the screen, fading in and out, right, like that type of vibe.
SPEAKER_1: What are the words?
SPEAKER_2: Trees everywhere, literally.
SPEAKER_1: Trees exist literally everywhere.
SPEAKER_1: Synthesis, photosynthesis, Vine 3, the internet 2.
SPEAKER_1: Three?
SPEAKER_1: Just the word three?
SPEAKER_1: Stuff like that.
SPEAKER_1: So that feels like a pretty good way to improve video calling.
SPEAKER_1: I imagine people will do some sort of weird nonsense where they try to link six-second videos together to try and create a full-on extended video call that doesn't have to be six seconds back and forth.
SPEAKER_1: But we, of course, will ban that immediately.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, that's hacker behavior.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, the other hacking that happens here is you can hack the vines with a saw.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, you just cut the tree down.
SPEAKER_1: That's hacking.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, that's hacking now, baby.
SPEAKER_1: Biohacking.
SPEAKER_1: This is biohacking, everyone.
SPEAKER_2: Okay, I hate this.
SPEAKER_2: I officially hate this.
SPEAKER_1: Too bad, because it's real now.
SPEAKER_1: I made it.
SPEAKER_1: Vine 3, the Internet 2.
SPEAKER_2: Okay, here's a serious question.
SPEAKER_2: You can answer however you want.
SPEAKER_2: Serious questions.
SPEAKER_2: What makes video calling good?
SPEAKER_2: What could we add to video calling that would make it better?
SPEAKER_1: I think making it a lot smoother, less choppy.
SPEAKER_2: That's basics.
SPEAKER_2: What features can we add?
SPEAKER_2: When it comes to technology, some companies, they just like to cram as many features in as possible.
SPEAKER_2: They never actually fix anything.
SPEAKER_1: What if you could adjust other people's voices?
SPEAKER_1: Maybe your list...
SPEAKER_1: Okay, consider this.
SPEAKER_1: Your boss is yelling at you over a video call because he's a jerk.
SPEAKER_1: And what you do, you're like, this sucks.
SPEAKER_1: But then you go in...
SPEAKER_1: You auto-tune.
SPEAKER_1: Auto-tune the pitch of his voice up so that now he's yelling at you because he's like, how dare you?
SPEAKER_1: You're ruining this company!
SPEAKER_2: And then you turn it into a song and sell it on iTunes.
SPEAKER_2: You can just make auto-tuned vines with that.
SPEAKER_1: It's like TikTok.
SPEAKER_1: We're basically, what if TikTok for video calling?
SPEAKER_2: Can you auto-tune your TikTok?
SPEAKER_1: Oh, oh, yes.
SPEAKER_1: Yes, you definitely can.
SPEAKER_1: You've not seen TikToks?
SPEAKER_2: I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_1: There's a whole trend of doing it.
SPEAKER_2: I never open it.
SPEAKER_1: It's a meme on TikTok to have your voice just be your voice, but auto-tuned.
SPEAKER_2: Great.
SPEAKER_2: I mean, I think I'm good with video calling over the trees, over the vines.
SPEAKER_2: What is your final craving?
SPEAKER_1: We're really on theme.
SPEAKER_1: We're really sticking to the theme.
SPEAKER_2: God, we really are.
SPEAKER_1: It's not video this time, though video would be a part of this, probably.
SPEAKER_1: It's audio, but it's also Roll20.
SPEAKER_1: Let's talk about Roll20 for a second.
SPEAKER_1: We need to talk about Roll20.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, everyone, gamers, gamers.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, we need to talk about Roll20.
SPEAKER_2: Everybody who's not a gamer, you can leave the room.
SPEAKER_1: It's okay.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, this is the end of the episode for you.
SPEAKER_1: We're getting into the tabletop zone.
SPEAKER_1: The reason this is coming up is because I played a game earlier today, The Quiet Year, that was really, really fun with some friends.
SPEAKER_1: Go play The Quiet Year, it's super duper good.
SPEAKER_1: And it was a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_1: The problem is we were playing Roll20, and it was reminding me of how bad Roll20 is.
SPEAKER_1: A fun fact about Roll20 is that you will often try to move something and accidentally create a line instead.
SPEAKER_1: See, that sounds normal.
SPEAKER_2: That's like a normal problem.
SPEAKER_1: That's a normal problem.
SPEAKER_1: Here's a less normal problem.
SPEAKER_1: If you try to put text in Roll20, it will automatically clip to the grid, and there is a way to not have it happen, and you have to hold alt down while you move the text.
SPEAKER_2: Okay, great.
SPEAKER_2: Do you think they would invert that?
SPEAKER_1: You would think.
SPEAKER_1: So there's that.
SPEAKER_1: There's also, it's really hard to draw on Roll20, just they make it really hard.
SPEAKER_1: It's hard to deal with text.
SPEAKER_1: It's hard to move things around.
SPEAKER_1: It is, by and large, not a particularly competently made piece of software, but it's all we have right now.
SPEAKER_1: There's not really any other online program that allows you to play tabletop games together, to have a map there that you can all deal with.
SPEAKER_1: It just isn't a thing.
SPEAKER_2: I want to tell you about something that I've actually been following for a while that just went on Kickstarter.
SPEAKER_2: Do you know what I'm talking about?
SPEAKER_1: If it's the thing that I think you're talking about, I didn't know it was just on Kickstarter.
SPEAKER_1: Search Multiverse Kickstarter.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, it's basically a tool.
SPEAKER_2: I don't know if it's going to replace Roll20.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, this is the thing.
SPEAKER_2: This is absolutely the thing.
SPEAKER_2: And it just went on Kickstarter the other day, two days ago.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, I'm so glad it's on Kickstarter now.
SPEAKER_1: That's awesome.
SPEAKER_2: Yes, and I'm excited to back it.
SPEAKER_2: And this is the alternative.
SPEAKER_1: I'm going to just straight up link this in the description because I'm so excited it's actually getting made.
SPEAKER_1: I was really hoping it would actually get made.
SPEAKER_2: But see, the thing is, we still have to wait for this.
SPEAKER_2: So what are we going to do in the meantime?
SPEAKER_2: What's the solution to this in the meantime?
SPEAKER_2: The biggest thing about Roll20 is creating your own maps kind of sucks.
SPEAKER_1: Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_2: What else is there at Roll20?
SPEAKER_2: What do you do besides the chat?
SPEAKER_1: It has audio and video calling functionality.
SPEAKER_2: Who uses Roll20 for audio and video calling?
SPEAKER_1: We tried to originally.
SPEAKER_1: It did not work.
SPEAKER_2: What you're saying is Roll20 discorded you?
SPEAKER_1: It was pretty much the exact same issue where one person couldn't hear them, but they could hear us.
SPEAKER_2: Brianna, we should have just used Roll20 instead of Discord.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, Salt Cravings tabletop game.
SPEAKER_1: So it is used for that.
SPEAKER_1: It is also used.
SPEAKER_1: Let me look.
SPEAKER_1: OK, I'm just straight up going to go to roll20.net, and I'll tell you about some of the things Roll20 has.
SPEAKER_1: Roll20 has a map and background stuff.
SPEAKER_1: It has objects and tokens, some of which are just from the Roll20 software.
SPEAKER_1: There's a bunch of images that they have that you can use for your game for free, which is cool, but they're pretty generic.
SPEAKER_1: There is some sort of GM info overlay, though it's not laid out particularly well, where you can hide things from players or tell things to players.
SPEAKER_1: You can roll dice within it, but who knows how the randomness is.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, so it seems like the biggest thing is map making, right?
SPEAKER_1: It's map making, and it's not a great map making tool.
SPEAKER_1: It's the main thing.
SPEAKER_2: We need someone to sponsor Roll20.
SPEAKER_2: We need some big company to acquire Roll20 and really make it, really bring it into the capitalist sphere.
SPEAKER_2: So is it going to be the Salt Cravings Incorporated first acquisition?
SPEAKER_1: I think so.
SPEAKER_1: We own Roll20 now.
SPEAKER_2: We own Roll20.
SPEAKER_2: Now the first thing I am going to do as one of the leads of this is I'm going to rename it Roll6.
SPEAKER_2: You can only roll 6-sided dice.
SPEAKER_2: What are some features of this thing?
SPEAKER_2: You can take a photo of a map and it auto-generates a map.
SPEAKER_2: Oh my god.
SPEAKER_1: One of the things that you can't do on Roll20, that you can do on Roll2d6, is you could actually just export the image of your map.
SPEAKER_1: Because if you want to export an image from Roll20, you have to take a screenshot of it.
SPEAKER_2: Wow.
SPEAKER_1: That's one thing that you can do.
SPEAKER_1: Another thing that I think you can do is instead of it just being like, oh, you can use objects and tokens from our database or whatever, you could just do Google Images.
SPEAKER_1: You could just insert Google Images directly into Roll2d6 as tokens.
SPEAKER_2: Hi, this map is actually a cat.
SPEAKER_2: So today we're going to be playing on the face of a cat.
SPEAKER_2: The demon is the Whiskers, and if you fall into the mouth, you are dead.
SPEAKER_1: So Roll2d6, Roll Nya.
SPEAKER_2: What's your Nya stat?
SPEAKER_1: My Nya stat, plus one.
SPEAKER_2: Roll to lick your own asshole.
SPEAKER_1: I think that's called Roll plus Groom.
SPEAKER_1: God, the fucking cat RPG would be incredible.
SPEAKER_2: It's the Forged in the Dark cat game.
SPEAKER_2: What are the playbooks?
SPEAKER_2: The asshole, the baby.
SPEAKER_1: The warrior, we'll have the warrior cats fans get one.
SPEAKER_2: Great, it's just the warrior cats.
SPEAKER_1: It's just the warrior cat.
SPEAKER_1: The cats, the musical.
SPEAKER_1: The catra.
SPEAKER_1: Catra.
SPEAKER_2: The cat's the musical character is like the warlock, right?
SPEAKER_2: Nothing makes sense when whatever they do, it's like what is happening?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, it's the macavity.
SPEAKER_1: That's what it is.
SPEAKER_1: I mean, those are some pretty good classes to start with.
SPEAKER_1: What about the old cat?
SPEAKER_1: What about just the oldie?
SPEAKER_2: That's really good.
SPEAKER_2: I like that because we have the baby.
SPEAKER_1: We have the baby and the oldie.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, the feral.
SPEAKER_1: The feral.
SPEAKER_1: There we go.
SPEAKER_1: Great cat game.
SPEAKER_1: And we'll play it on Roll2D6.
SPEAKER_2: It's an exclusive.
SPEAKER_1: I think there's lots of cat themed things because one of the things about Roll20 is people will make like different, and I can only imagine what it's like trying to make different playbooks on Roll20.
SPEAKER_1: Or to make like a structured thing.
SPEAKER_1: I can only imagine.
SPEAKER_2: That's one thing Roll2D6 does is you can make customized fillable PDF player sheets because, oh my god, I was trying to do that for Scum and Villainy and it was a nightmare.
SPEAKER_1: There's lots of customization options.
SPEAKER_1: These are just features that I want to actually be real.
SPEAKER_2: This is why we acquired it is because now we're in charge.
SPEAKER_1: Now we're in charge and we're telling the people who run Roll20 what they're going to do for Roll2D6.
SPEAKER_1: We are the bosses.
SPEAKER_2: They can auto tune our voices up.
SPEAKER_1: And then you're going to have a bunch of cat stuff, people!
SPEAKER_1: It'll have the Vine 3, the Internet 2 video calling system.
SPEAKER_1: You know what would actually be interesting is like text to speech or speech to text.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, does it not have that?
SPEAKER_1: I don't think that Roll20 has that built in.
SPEAKER_2: That's a no-brainer.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, it's just going to be perfect.
SPEAKER_2: It's just going to be perfect.
SPEAKER_1: Also, you can make characters within Roll20.
SPEAKER_1: You can just make a character, which is just a thing that Multiverse is going to have.
SPEAKER_2: So again, go support Multiverse on Kickstarter, because honestly, it looks so good.
SPEAKER_1: It looks incredible.
SPEAKER_1: God, I hope it's good.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, God, I hope it's good too.
SPEAKER_1: You know what else is good?
SPEAKER_1: Our podcast.
SPEAKER_2: This was a weird episode, but I think we made it.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I think we did it.
SPEAKER_1: I think we got there.
SPEAKER_1: Shout outs to us for being great.
SPEAKER_2: For being perfect.
SPEAKER_2: Hey, praise me.
SPEAKER_2: It's going to be my birthday.
SPEAKER_2: So actually, if you're listening to this, it's the day after my birthday.
SPEAKER_2: Well, actually, you can listen to it whenever.
SPEAKER_2: If you listen to it the day it came out, it's the day after my birthday.
SPEAKER_2: Go just like say happy birthday to me on Twitter, at Clair Skies Ahead.
SPEAKER_2: Actually, whenever you're listening to this, I don't care when it is.
SPEAKER_2: Just go tell me happy birthday.
SPEAKER_2: Thanks.
SPEAKER_1: I love that.
SPEAKER_1: Also, after telling Clair happy birthday, you can give her...
SPEAKER_1: I know you don't want gifts, but you should give her the gift of a review of a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice.
SPEAKER_2: I guess I'll accept that.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, so ha ha, you got that gift.
SPEAKER_2: You really owned me.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, so go review it.
SPEAKER_1: Clair destroyed with flax and logic.
SPEAKER_1: You can follow us at Salt Cravings on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.
SPEAKER_1: Or you can submit cravings.
SPEAKER_2: Who's going?
SPEAKER_1: You do it.
SPEAKER_2: Alright, I'm going to do it.
SPEAKER_2: Or you could submit cravings at submissions at saltcravings.com.
SPEAKER_2: Seriously, you can just send those and we'll do them and then you can listen to them and we'll do actual cravings.
SPEAKER_2: We probably won't talk about Multiverse during your craving.
SPEAKER_1: We might.
SPEAKER_2: We might.
SPEAKER_1: Since I was excited we are about it that day.
SPEAKER_1: Also, just in general.
SPEAKER_2: In general, be safe.
SPEAKER_2: Social distance, for real.
SPEAKER_1: Stay home if you can.
SPEAKER_1: If you can't, fuck your employer.
SPEAKER_2: Go steal their wealth or something.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, go steal their wealth.
SPEAKER_2: If you're in the US, I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I'm really sorry.
SPEAKER_1: It seems extremely bad.
SPEAKER_1: Just wanted to say, like really genuinely, good luck, stay safe, we're all gonna get through this.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: Everything is gonna be fine.
SPEAKER_1: Eventually.
SPEAKER_1: So, and we promise next episode, we will not talk extensively about the quarantine, but we just need to get it out of our system.
SPEAKER_2: Maybe, who knows what our cravings will be?
SPEAKER_1: Who knows what our cravings will be?
SPEAKER_1: I'm gonna try and give people a break away.
SPEAKER_2: Hey, you know what?
SPEAKER_2: I think, look, we can decide this on air right now.
SPEAKER_2: Next episode is the meme episode.
SPEAKER_2: We've been wanting to do this for a while.
SPEAKER_2: I think it's a good time to do it.
SPEAKER_2: We're gonna be doing a meme episode next time.
SPEAKER_1: Have fun with the meme episode next time.
SPEAKER_1: And for now, stay safe, keep cravin.
SPEAKER_2: Keep cravin, as we always say.
SPEAKER_1: And have fun in third life.
SPEAKER_2: I still have roll 20.
SPEAKER_2: I'm going to refresh it, because Austin always likes to refresh it.
SPEAKER_2: It is exactly the same.
SPEAKER_2: God, what a good website.
SPEAKER_2: God, I've never just gone to Time.is.
SPEAKER_2: Did I say roll 20 just now?
SPEAKER_1: You did, but it's fine.
SPEAKER_2: So go to roll 20.
SPEAKER_2: We're going to clap.
SPEAKER_2: We're going to clap at 2D6.
SPEAKER_1: We only clap when we get the same roll.
SPEAKER_1: I'm just going to rapid fire.
SPEAKER_1: If you get a 6 or higher, if you get a 6 or higher, roll 2D6, take the higher.
SPEAKER_1: If you get a 6, you're allowed to clap.
SPEAKER_2: If you get a 5 or a 4, you got to clap, but it's off time by one second.
SPEAKER_2: And if you get a 1 or a 3, you just sort of have to shout really loudly into the mic.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, basically.
SPEAKER_1: All right, let's clap at 30.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.