WEBVTT 00:00:25.190 --> 00:00:29.490 Hello, everyone, and welcome to Salt Cravings 2. 00:00:30.150 --> 00:00:31.310 My name's Brianna. 00:00:31.330 --> 00:00:34.350 And my name's Clair, the sequel. 00:00:34.730 --> 00:00:37.870 Welcome to the sequel to Salt Cravings, Salt Cravings 2. 00:00:38.330 --> 00:00:40.690 I'm so excited that we get to announce Salt Cravings 2 today. 00:00:40.950 --> 00:00:42.430 It's a really exciting time. 00:00:42.570 --> 00:00:51.070 We've been working on this for a while and have been talking internally about Salt Cravings 2, the sequel to Salt Cravings. 00:00:51.090 --> 00:00:58.930 And here at Salt Cravings, incorporated as a corporation, we're really excited to share not only what Salt Cravings 2 is, but some of the new features. 00:00:59.270 --> 00:01:08.030 So obviously the first one, the most obvious one that you can hear is that my audio is back up to a good level and we are still recording remotely, but we both have really good mics. 00:01:08.050 --> 00:01:11.390 Let's run through what some of the features are of Salt Cravings 2, Clair. 00:01:11.670 --> 00:01:13.410 I know there's some you're really excited for. 00:01:13.430 --> 00:01:14.490 So do you wanna share those? 00:01:14.690 --> 00:01:15.350 Yeah. 00:01:15.610 --> 00:01:22.430 So it did come to me this morning when I thought up and then immediately forgot a craving. 00:01:22.630 --> 00:01:24.290 It has to do with the one that I forgot. 00:01:24.450 --> 00:01:27.990 We'll see if it comes back to me, but I think Salt Cravings 2 is more political. 00:01:28.410 --> 00:01:29.550 Oh yeah, absolutely. 00:01:29.730 --> 00:01:31.210 Oh, it's so political now. 00:01:31.730 --> 00:01:35.750 So another feature of Salt Cravings 2 is we've removed the headphone jack. 00:01:36.130 --> 00:01:41.250 So now you're listening to this with a type C connector. 00:01:41.270 --> 00:01:46.850 So if you don't have that, that's a, you know, don't worry, we're selling you type C headphones. 00:01:46.950 --> 00:01:47.990 Don't worry about all that. 00:01:48.230 --> 00:01:49.790 Just get Bluetooth headphones. 00:01:50.370 --> 00:01:51.330 Oh, yeah. 00:01:51.490 --> 00:01:53.530 And trust me, sound quality is gonna be a whole lot better. 00:01:53.710 --> 00:01:55.350 You're gonna enjoy the podcast more. 00:01:55.410 --> 00:01:57.270 It's gonna be better in every conceivable way. 00:01:57.690 --> 00:02:04.510 So in Salt Cravings 2, now we each do 10 cravings, and these episodes are actually like 10 hours long. 00:02:04.810 --> 00:02:05.210 Yeah. 00:02:05.230 --> 00:02:06.590 So I hope you're prepared. 00:02:06.750 --> 00:02:11.670 So we've decided to really increase the amount of hours of Salt Cravings content. 00:02:11.690 --> 00:02:12.810 We know that's what you guys wanted. 00:02:12.830 --> 00:02:16.430 And so yeah, we will be doing 10 cravings every episode. 00:02:16.450 --> 00:02:17.650 That's of course 10 each. 00:02:17.870 --> 00:02:32.610 And alternatively, we could maximize our cravings per second or CPS, and we could just rapid fire do a billion cravings in one episode and still keep it like an hour long. 00:02:32.630 --> 00:02:35.890 I think that that is also an option for sure. 00:02:36.090 --> 00:02:40.010 What is the quality of life that we're going for from an end user perspective? 00:02:40.470 --> 00:02:43.210 I think what we're going for is overwhelming. 00:02:43.230 --> 00:02:45.910 I think Salt Cravings is gonna be overwhelming. 00:02:46.690 --> 00:02:48.450 Okay, okay, overwhelming. 00:02:48.470 --> 00:02:57.810 I mean, when I think about like podcasts that I really enjoy listening to, I like the ones that overwhelm me with content that I can't fathom or understand. 00:02:58.350 --> 00:03:04.710 You just have to say a lot of words that are really myopic and a little egregious. 00:03:05.050 --> 00:03:07.750 Yeah, it's sort of an erogenous kind of... 00:03:07.770 --> 00:03:16.070 Uh-huh, yeah, that was really it. 00:03:16.090 --> 00:03:17.110 That was the first one. 00:03:17.510 --> 00:03:19.650 That was the first word that came to your mind. 00:03:19.670 --> 00:03:27.690 In fairness, it sounded a lot like the words that you said. 00:03:27.710 --> 00:03:29.590 Yeah, so that is Salt Cravings 2. 00:03:30.390 --> 00:03:34.110 Shall we do the first craving of this 20 Craving pod? 00:03:34.270 --> 00:03:35.350 Yeah, that sounds good. 00:03:35.490 --> 00:03:36.450 Gotta get it out of the way. 00:03:36.470 --> 00:03:37.770 We can't drag it on, you know. 00:03:37.790 --> 00:03:47.390 It would really suck if, for the user, if we just kept going on about the intro and sort of just lingered here for a while, never really moving on or anything. 00:03:47.410 --> 00:03:49.830 Yeah, you really don't want to linger on the intro. 00:03:49.850 --> 00:03:51.170 Let's talk about that for a sec. 00:03:53.210 --> 00:03:54.210 How was your day, Brianna? 00:03:57.370 --> 00:03:59.350 Did a little bit of cleaning, you know, all that. 00:03:59.370 --> 00:04:00.410 Oh, nice, nice. 00:04:00.510 --> 00:04:01.770 Yeah, yeah, how was your day? 00:04:01.790 --> 00:04:03.130 Oh, you know, not bad. 00:04:03.150 --> 00:04:03.810 Got off work. 00:04:03.870 --> 00:04:05.470 I also did a little bit of cleaning. 00:04:05.490 --> 00:04:09.490 You know, my roommate actually beat me to one of my tasks, and then now I'm here. 00:04:13.370 --> 00:04:14.950 Wow, well, we should get rid of roommates. 00:04:15.130 --> 00:04:16.190 It's a mandated order. 00:04:16.450 --> 00:04:17.350 If they're beating us. 00:04:18.010 --> 00:04:20.350 We can't lose at keeping a clean house. 00:04:20.670 --> 00:04:24.210 Yeah, that's, if you do that, then you get canceled on Twitter. 00:04:26.550 --> 00:04:27.790 Dirty house privilege. 00:04:28.330 --> 00:04:28.650 That's- 00:04:28.670 --> 00:04:30.210 Dirty house privilege. 00:04:32.610 --> 00:04:36.510 So my first craving, if I could move us along though. 00:04:36.890 --> 00:04:42.010 Yeah, yeah, no, I think we've really done a good job of not lingering on the intro, so please give me your first craving. 00:04:42.030 --> 00:04:43.670 Great, great, cool, cool, cool. 00:04:43.890 --> 00:04:45.850 Just give me the first craving, Clair. 00:04:45.870 --> 00:04:46.810 Just go for it. 00:04:46.990 --> 00:04:48.730 We have been doing a lot of video calls. 00:04:48.870 --> 00:04:51.530 You and me, especially, have been doing a lot of video calls. 00:04:51.550 --> 00:04:59.870 But I feel like when I say we have been doing a lot of video calls, I mean, probably everybody listening to this, it's kind of bad. 00:05:00.030 --> 00:05:15.590 And there was a tweet recently by one of our mutual friends, Talteria on Twitter, not sure about using real names, et cetera, but Talteria on Twitter mentioned some really good points about video calling that I just have not been able to stop thinking about. 00:05:16.190 --> 00:05:20.710 One of the problems is you can't have multiple conversations at once. 00:05:21.010 --> 00:05:21.290 No. 00:05:21.610 --> 00:05:25.910 It's just it's not feasible to have multiple conversations. 00:05:26.310 --> 00:05:28.850 This is sort of leading in to my craving. 00:05:28.870 --> 00:05:30.610 It's not exactly related, but... 00:05:30.730 --> 00:05:35.030 I'm going to say we kind of did already solve video calling in a previous episode. 00:05:36.250 --> 00:05:38.010 I've just been thinking about it a lot more. 00:05:38.030 --> 00:05:39.670 So I guess I'm still just lingering. 00:05:39.690 --> 00:05:45.270 And I have a proof of concept that maybe I'll show you after this video call. 00:05:45.590 --> 00:05:53.050 But I'm going to keep this in so that if you want to know my proof of concept, tweet at me, ClaireSkiesAhead, and I will DM you. 00:05:53.230 --> 00:05:56.410 But that's just a little, you know, do you have a craving to know? 00:05:56.810 --> 00:05:57.610 Tell me about it. 00:05:58.330 --> 00:05:59.770 So my actual craving... 00:05:59.810 --> 00:06:04.070 That should be our outro, engineer. 00:06:04.090 --> 00:06:09.110 My actual craving is I've been craving the return of IRC chats. 00:06:09.410 --> 00:06:10.110 Hell yeah. 00:06:10.490 --> 00:06:15.530 IRC chats, if you're not familiar, I need to look up what the acronym actually means. 00:06:15.530 --> 00:06:17.050 It's an Internet Relay Chat. 00:06:17.070 --> 00:06:22.570 But basically what it means is like it's what most of us know as just a chat room now. 00:06:22.850 --> 00:06:27.310 Like when you think of like it's a bunch of people in a chat room talking to each other. 00:06:27.470 --> 00:06:40.410 And I've become interested in this recently because I've been joining instances of a PsyTube, CYTube, which you can just cue music together and listen to music together and then talk. 00:06:40.430 --> 00:06:42.830 And there's no like you can't share video or anything. 00:06:43.050 --> 00:06:44.950 So it's not like Discord thing. 00:06:44.970 --> 00:06:51.930 And I think how that changes communication is like when it comes to video calling, the emphasis is on paying attention. 00:06:52.210 --> 00:06:55.290 If you leave, you sort of have to say that you're leaving. 00:06:55.550 --> 00:07:01.990 But on an IRC chat, if you're really engaged, the most you have to do is type BRB and like, that's it. 00:07:02.290 --> 00:07:03.750 Yeah, that's a really good point. 00:07:04.190 --> 00:07:06.090 I was never super involved in chat rooms. 00:07:06.110 --> 00:07:08.530 That was never really my forte. 00:07:08.770 --> 00:07:10.870 But I think they're really interesting. 00:07:11.030 --> 00:07:19.910 The thing that I think stopped me from being involved in chat rooms is the latent fear that is in me of being afraid of strangers on the internet. 00:07:23.770 --> 00:07:30.190 I've actually been doing a lot more just posting online and talking to strangers on the internet since this all began. 00:07:30.210 --> 00:07:31.630 I'm very brave of you. 00:07:32.250 --> 00:07:33.150 Well, I used to be... 00:07:33.910 --> 00:07:34.630 Here's the thing. 00:07:34.950 --> 00:07:36.530 As a child, I did it a lot. 00:07:39.510 --> 00:07:49.530 As a young teenager, older youth, I would go on to chat rooms or video games and just talk to strangers. 00:07:50.190 --> 00:07:56.550 I mean, from nowadays, from a privacy perspective, it would be probably terrifying to reflect on that. 00:07:57.390 --> 00:07:58.830 Now it's like, well, I'm an adult. 00:07:59.270 --> 00:08:03.670 The worst they can do is probably find my email and I guess send me mail. 00:08:04.030 --> 00:08:04.390 Yeah. 00:08:04.410 --> 00:08:05.770 They could dox me, I guess. 00:08:06.130 --> 00:08:06.690 They could. 00:08:07.090 --> 00:08:09.070 They could yell at you a lot and dox you. 00:08:09.090 --> 00:08:12.250 But the thing is, the internet now is a lot more public. 00:08:12.970 --> 00:08:19.770 When Facebook made the move of no longer letting you use fake names, the risk of doxing increased. 00:08:20.250 --> 00:08:20.570 Yeah. 00:08:20.570 --> 00:08:23.710 So any attempt at anonymity is better than that. 00:08:24.030 --> 00:08:32.130 So really being anonymous makes it fun because I no longer have fear of like, oh, what if someone thinks what I said is ridiculous? 00:08:32.630 --> 00:08:33.770 Who cares, right? 00:08:33.790 --> 00:08:37.010 It's going to disappear in five seconds when the rest of the chat scrolls up. 00:08:37.150 --> 00:08:38.010 That's really interesting. 00:08:38.030 --> 00:08:51.530 The way that I think I did end up talking to strangers a bit in kind of high school would have been through Tumblr, because Tumblr was the way that I first kind of began to come to terms with my gender and stuff. 00:08:51.610 --> 00:08:59.890 And so I have a couple of trans girlfriends and honestly also cis girlfriends who I know from the Tumblr days. 00:09:00.550 --> 00:09:04.050 And I don't know why that one felt a little bit safer to me. 00:09:04.070 --> 00:09:06.390 I don't know why Tumblr felt safe to me. 00:09:06.410 --> 00:09:07.770 I probably shouldn't have. 00:09:08.250 --> 00:09:10.410 But I've seen some shit on Tumblr. 00:09:10.430 --> 00:09:13.030 Yeah, I mean, I have too, and I had two then. 00:09:13.030 --> 00:09:17.630 But it was like I definitely made friends with people, which was always wild to me. 00:09:17.890 --> 00:09:21.930 I was like, Oh, I can't go into a chat room or a forum or whatever, because there are people there. 00:09:21.950 --> 00:09:27.030 They kind of, you know, I feel like it was like, there aren't real people on Tumblr. 00:09:27.050 --> 00:09:27.870 There's just bots. 00:09:27.890 --> 00:09:28.130 Right? 00:09:28.410 --> 00:09:36.150 Well, it was more like it was more along the lines of like me kind of looking at chat rooms and forums and stuff and being like, Oh, people already know each other on there. 00:09:36.390 --> 00:09:39.330 If I come in there, I'm going to be a weirdo new person. 00:09:39.350 --> 00:09:40.270 Yeah. 00:09:40.290 --> 00:09:43.550 There's no people versus like that's kind of exciting. 00:09:43.570 --> 00:09:46.310 Friends online is no, it's terrifying. 00:09:46.330 --> 00:09:47.050 It's terrifying. 00:09:48.090 --> 00:09:49.550 But there's so much history. 00:09:49.950 --> 00:09:53.430 There's like inside jokes that like you get to learn about. 00:09:53.890 --> 00:10:00.330 How do you know that there's just not gonna hate you immediately and completely because don't be an asshole. 00:10:00.470 --> 00:10:01.590 And most people don't. 00:10:02.210 --> 00:10:05.790 I'll have you know that a lot of people are very mean online. 00:10:07.030 --> 00:10:07.450 Yeah. 00:10:07.470 --> 00:10:11.230 And this is the thing about most modern chats, at least the ones that I'm in. 00:10:11.510 --> 00:10:13.410 One of the rules is like, hey, don't be a dick. 00:10:13.610 --> 00:10:15.790 So if you are a dick, you get kicked. 00:10:15.810 --> 00:10:23.010 So I mean, if you're not the one being a dick, then you're pretty safe from the ass hats and the meanies. 00:10:23.430 --> 00:10:25.710 But what if you are accidentally a dick? 00:10:25.730 --> 00:10:39.310 What if you accidentally say something that is against what people do in that chat room, and all of them start yelling at you and then you have to cry? 00:10:39.330 --> 00:10:41.730 And I have some good news again. 00:10:42.150 --> 00:10:44.150 You can't technically yell on the internet. 00:10:44.810 --> 00:10:47.530 Through an IRC chat, the worst you can get is full caps. 00:10:48.210 --> 00:10:49.490 No one's going to yell at you. 00:10:49.630 --> 00:10:52.390 You're just going to like have some words come on the screen. 00:10:52.850 --> 00:10:56.430 Clair, I'll have you know, words can hurt a lot. 00:10:57.110 --> 00:10:58.290 Words can hurt a lot. 00:10:58.350 --> 00:10:59.430 I absolutely feel that. 00:11:00.750 --> 00:11:03.550 So therefore, all IRC chat bad? 00:11:03.650 --> 00:11:04.230 I don't know. 00:11:04.250 --> 00:11:06.770 I did no issue with IRC chats. 00:11:07.010 --> 00:11:12.250 I just personally always felt like I always get super different anxious about like new spaces. 00:11:12.790 --> 00:11:25.570 I'm going to send you a YouTube video livestream, a 24-7 Nintendo Music Livestream that I have been sort of hanging out in for the past couple days now. 00:11:25.990 --> 00:11:30.230 And you should come, you should listen to it. 00:11:30.250 --> 00:11:37.690 Because, and this is why it sort of made me think of IRC chats, it is 24-7 and also the music is hand curated. 00:11:37.910 --> 00:11:46.730 So you can request songs if you have like a sponsorship or whatnot, but there's usually mods in there and there's pretty much always people requesting songs. 00:11:46.990 --> 00:11:55.850 And like the other day even, people teamed up to make sure that they were playing every generation of Pokemon songs because you can only request a song an hour. 00:11:56.090 --> 00:11:58.350 So a bunch of people were like, okay, I'm going to do Gen 1. 00:11:58.370 --> 00:11:59.870 All right, you do Gen 2. 00:11:59.890 --> 00:12:01.270 All right, I'll do Gen 3. 00:12:01.410 --> 00:12:04.150 And I've just been going there and sort of hanging out. 00:12:04.170 --> 00:12:05.510 And now it's my third day there. 00:12:05.730 --> 00:12:09.850 And there's like one or two people that I've just begun talking to. 00:12:09.870 --> 00:12:10.970 I don't know who they are. 00:12:10.990 --> 00:12:11.970 They don't know who I am. 00:12:12.310 --> 00:12:15.490 I use a pseudonym and I'm sure so do they. 00:12:15.510 --> 00:12:18.810 And it's just like random people talking to each other. 00:12:18.850 --> 00:12:20.490 And I'm like, that's sick as hell. 00:12:20.790 --> 00:12:22.750 Like who knows who these people are, right? 00:12:23.050 --> 00:12:24.870 That sounds super duper rad. 00:12:25.170 --> 00:12:40.010 Now, Clair, in terms of solving this craving, how would you create the perfect IRC chat where people who are nervous little babies like me would feel kind of as comfortable as possible? 00:12:40.390 --> 00:12:43.870 And also it's just the perfect IRC chat always. 00:12:44.290 --> 00:12:45.410 It's just the perfect one. 00:12:45.630 --> 00:12:52.110 Maybe you, the baby, needs to tell me, the adult, what you need coming into an IRC chat. 00:12:52.490 --> 00:12:53.590 Because it seems like... 00:12:53.610 --> 00:12:54.590 Goo goo ga ga. 00:12:56.150 --> 00:13:00.130 So there are professional diaper changers on site in this IRC chat. 00:13:01.570 --> 00:13:03.050 Now, if you do lie down... 00:13:03.070 --> 00:13:08.390 Okay, that's enough of that. 00:13:09.650 --> 00:13:18.750 I feel like it is mostly just that like, I never know how to meet people, unless I'm meeting them by going up on a stage or being at a camp with them. 00:13:18.770 --> 00:13:30.530 These are how I've made most of my friends, are like very dramatic Brianna ways, and very little of it is going into an established group and being like, hi, I'm Brianna. 00:13:31.430 --> 00:13:42.650 I feel like most of the ways that I've met my friends has been like online apps or being invited to hang out to a larger group by someone at a party. 00:13:42.870 --> 00:13:45.010 And that sort of just cascades, right? 00:13:45.030 --> 00:13:52.050 Like, I mean, I met you at a party, which I got invited to by a different person who I'm pretty sure I met at a party. 00:13:52.870 --> 00:13:54.830 And so then there were more people, you know? 00:13:55.650 --> 00:13:57.030 That's just sort of how it went. 00:13:57.230 --> 00:14:02.390 But back in my teenage days, I had a lot of online friends, and now I just don't. 00:14:02.450 --> 00:14:03.490 Well, okay, that's not true. 00:14:03.650 --> 00:14:07.030 I have people who I once knew in real life, and then they moved away. 00:14:07.050 --> 00:14:13.450 But I don't have people who it's like, oh, we've never hung out in real life, and we can't hang out in real life. 00:14:13.790 --> 00:14:14.970 Yeah, fair. 00:14:15.230 --> 00:14:16.910 It might be something about text. 00:14:17.010 --> 00:14:30.970 It might be just the fact that like, I'm a lot more confident kind of putting yourself out there like in physical form and in physical space than I am through text, because I'm a very performative person, and it's a lot harder to be performative over text. 00:14:32.210 --> 00:14:33.050 I do feel that. 00:14:33.290 --> 00:14:40.450 I mean, you know, we're both very performative people in that sense, maybe in different ways in certain aspects. 00:14:40.470 --> 00:14:42.930 But I use a lot of like emojis. 00:14:43.150 --> 00:14:44.110 Maybe I shouldn't say emojis. 00:14:44.330 --> 00:14:48.050 I use emoticons, which are different because they're not emojis. 00:14:48.370 --> 00:14:53.250 Because I hate, well, I hate specifically the YouTube emojis, and I hate most emojis. 00:14:53.370 --> 00:15:06.330 And emoticons, which are just like, well, my favorite one is like C colon, which is just a happy face, but it's not like every single normal happy face emoji looks like it wants to murder you, you know? 00:15:06.650 --> 00:15:10.170 Like, why do they want to look like they're just like dead inside? 00:15:10.370 --> 00:15:20.030 Like, I've lost my soul, and you're the next victim on my list is sort of how I feel with every single just neutral smiling emoji. 00:15:20.330 --> 00:15:22.710 I feel like I need to like have signature emojis. 00:15:22.970 --> 00:15:24.090 Just steal them from others. 00:15:24.110 --> 00:15:24.750 That's what I did. 00:15:25.030 --> 00:15:26.210 Yeah, probably. 00:15:26.290 --> 00:15:29.970 I recently figured out what my signature heart is, so that's something. 00:15:30.530 --> 00:15:31.750 What's your signature heart? 00:15:31.890 --> 00:15:34.290 It's the like pink one with like multiple hearts. 00:15:34.770 --> 00:15:36.850 Oh, nice, nice, nice. 00:15:37.090 --> 00:15:38.970 I have meanings to all my hearts. 00:15:39.810 --> 00:15:41.730 Okay, what are the meanings to all of your hearts? 00:15:41.950 --> 00:15:43.290 That is a secret. 00:15:43.650 --> 00:15:44.930 That's never going to be divulged. 00:15:44.950 --> 00:15:47.070 That is my own personal code. 00:15:47.230 --> 00:15:47.750 Yeah. 00:15:48.410 --> 00:15:49.470 Girl can keep secrets. 00:15:49.690 --> 00:15:51.330 Do you have any other signature emojis? 00:15:51.430 --> 00:15:52.730 Or sorry, emoticons? 00:15:53.150 --> 00:15:59.010 Yeah, so colon, apostrophe, right bracket, where it's like happy crying face. 00:15:59.390 --> 00:16:00.010 It's a good one. 00:16:00.250 --> 00:16:02.610 Just like a single tear rolling down your cheek, right? 00:16:03.050 --> 00:16:10.590 It's like, this is great, but also I'm sad sort of response, which is I feel is applicable to most things right now. 00:16:11.190 --> 00:16:11.930 That's a mood. 00:16:12.030 --> 00:16:13.870 We are all both sad and happy. 00:16:13.930 --> 00:16:15.630 We have the capacity to be both. 00:16:15.870 --> 00:16:17.130 Schrodinger's emotions. 00:16:17.610 --> 00:16:18.810 Schrodinger's emoticon. 00:16:18.830 --> 00:16:20.370 What's the Schrodinger's emoticon? 00:16:20.390 --> 00:16:21.410 Is it just a box and a cat? 00:16:21.430 --> 00:16:21.910 It's a cat. 00:16:23.510 --> 00:16:28.510 What would be some other just general things that you would have in your Perfect IRC chat? 00:16:28.830 --> 00:16:31.150 Disregard what the little baby needs. 00:16:31.190 --> 00:16:33.570 Tell me the ideal for you. 00:16:35.110 --> 00:16:38.070 A fun one is jump in, jump out games. 00:16:38.690 --> 00:16:42.690 And when I say jump in, jump out, I think there's a better term for it. 00:16:42.850 --> 00:16:49.190 But did you ever play or see or look up videos of the Kirby video game for the Switch? 00:16:50.010 --> 00:16:51.410 That's the friend one, right? 00:16:52.010 --> 00:16:53.090 Yeah, the friend one. 00:16:53.450 --> 00:16:55.190 I think it's like All Star. 00:16:55.210 --> 00:16:56.350 No, it's All Friends. 00:16:56.510 --> 00:16:58.030 It has friends in the title, I think. 00:16:58.050 --> 00:16:59.270 It definitely has friends in the title. 00:16:59.490 --> 00:17:01.330 It's Kirby All Star Smash Mouth. 00:17:01.550 --> 00:17:02.430 Friendship. 00:17:04.310 --> 00:17:10.790 But yeah, you can literally in the middle of a level in that game just have somebody join the game. 00:17:10.810 --> 00:17:12.390 It's Kirby Star Allies, by the way. 00:17:12.630 --> 00:17:13.210 Yeah. 00:17:13.510 --> 00:17:14.850 It's not friends in the title. 00:17:15.170 --> 00:17:16.310 Allies at the table. 00:17:19.510 --> 00:17:23.290 You could just jump in and out of that game at any point if you weren't player one. 00:17:23.330 --> 00:17:28.730 And I think that should be a thing for IRC chats, right? 00:17:28.750 --> 00:17:30.190 So there has to be a player one. 00:17:31.490 --> 00:17:33.730 Right, the mod is player one. 00:17:33.750 --> 00:17:35.450 The chat mod, you're the player mod. 00:17:35.510 --> 00:17:36.510 You're the player one. 00:17:36.530 --> 00:17:37.430 You're the player mod. 00:17:37.570 --> 00:17:38.470 You're the player mod. 00:17:38.550 --> 00:17:40.630 God, what are some like jump in, jump out games? 00:17:40.870 --> 00:17:41.490 Scrabble. 00:17:42.910 --> 00:17:43.690 What's Scrabble? 00:17:44.070 --> 00:17:47.550 I guess a lot of like text chat games are kind of that. 00:17:47.570 --> 00:17:53.910 You know that game where you all try to say increasing numbers without repeating them? 00:17:54.310 --> 00:18:03.730 So like one person says one, another person says two, another person says three, another person says four, and another person says five at the same time someone else says five, and you have to start all over again. 00:18:04.150 --> 00:18:04.710 Oh, right. 00:18:04.710 --> 00:18:05.870 OK, OK, cool. 00:18:06.170 --> 00:18:09.210 I thought you meant like not concurrent numbers. 00:18:09.270 --> 00:18:16.170 So I was like, well, why wouldn't I just say like after after you say one, I say ten because probably no one's going to say. 00:18:16.190 --> 00:18:17.190 No, no, no, no, no. 00:18:17.210 --> 00:18:18.190 You got to say them in order. 00:18:18.510 --> 00:18:22.850 OK, I thought this was like a game of like, oh, I don't know a number that comes after that number. 00:18:22.850 --> 00:18:28.090 Oh, no, we've gone too high, which is like an alternate one. 00:18:28.110 --> 00:18:31.010 But I think a text based game wouldn't work very well. 00:18:32.370 --> 00:18:44.770 It's a similar one to that Discord meme from a while ago where you tried to say different lyrics one after another of a song and then people would edit together a video with the song playing over. 00:18:45.190 --> 00:18:46.270 Did you see this at all? 00:18:46.710 --> 00:18:47.370 No. 00:18:48.130 --> 00:18:59.230 I'll send you an example after and I'll link one in the description, but it was very good and funny to see people try to do lyric after lyric and then someone fucked it up and it was wild. 00:18:59.250 --> 00:19:08.670 But there are good text games where it's like, okay, you can like play and then you can like hop out and let everyone else play and then you can keep playing if you want. 00:19:09.070 --> 00:19:13.710 What about like to choose your own adventure, but like the chat is the party. 00:19:13.950 --> 00:19:17.450 You know Twitch plays Pokemon and then I don't know, it turned into Twitch. 00:19:17.650 --> 00:19:21.290 Yeah, except Twitch plays IRC. 00:19:21.490 --> 00:19:22.610 Twitch plays IRC. 00:19:22.630 --> 00:19:24.430 I'm sure that someone has done that. 00:19:24.650 --> 00:19:39.590 See Twitch plays Pokemon was like a voting system, which gets boring really quickly because it always feels like most voting systems very discouraging because the more people there are, the less impact it feels like you have. 00:19:39.830 --> 00:19:43.870 So what if there was like you're automatically assorted into like a team? 00:19:43.970 --> 00:19:44.910 Oh, that's interesting. 00:19:45.110 --> 00:19:52.050 What if there are teams and like if you drop in and drop out, like that's okay because the size of the team doesn't really matter. 00:19:52.070 --> 00:19:57.550 Like there's maybe a maximum team size, like maybe it's like three people, but like you can just have an unlimited amount of teams. 00:19:57.570 --> 00:19:59.070 That feels like it gets really unbalanced really quickly. 00:19:59.470 --> 00:20:00.830 I mean, we could make it balanced. 00:20:00.850 --> 00:20:01.930 We'll make the perfect game. 00:20:01.950 --> 00:20:07.670 We'll make the perfect IRC drop in drop out game with three people teams, one to three people. 00:20:08.230 --> 00:20:09.530 Actually, you know what? 00:20:09.950 --> 00:20:11.250 I found the perfect solution. 00:20:11.390 --> 00:20:13.430 Who your teammates are doesn't matter. 00:20:13.450 --> 00:20:17.430 I was thinking instead of having one person on your own, the minimum team size is two. 00:20:17.490 --> 00:20:20.770 And if someone joins, the teams just immediately get shuffled. 00:20:21.050 --> 00:20:24.210 So like your teammates don't matter. 00:20:24.490 --> 00:20:32.170 You just help your team and your team is always, you get points based on like what your current team gets. 00:20:32.330 --> 00:20:38.870 And then you can spend those points on like unlocking emoticons maybe or emojis or song requests. 00:20:39.150 --> 00:20:41.030 Yeah, I love chaos. 00:20:41.250 --> 00:20:42.010 Great and good. 00:20:42.230 --> 00:20:44.390 I feel like a lot of people would fuck with the system. 00:20:44.490 --> 00:20:45.790 That's totally fine. 00:20:45.970 --> 00:20:47.090 It's meant to be fucked with. 00:20:47.290 --> 00:20:48.890 Who brings order to a chat? 00:20:50.470 --> 00:20:51.530 That's a cool idea. 00:20:51.830 --> 00:20:52.910 What is the game itself? 00:20:53.190 --> 00:20:54.630 Lovers to Rivals. 00:20:55.630 --> 00:20:56.630 What is that? 00:20:58.390 --> 00:21:00.090 It's a game I've just made up. 00:21:00.110 --> 00:21:01.710 It's called Lovers to Rivals. 00:21:02.050 --> 00:21:02.370 Yep. 00:21:03.570 --> 00:21:04.730 And how does it work? 00:21:04.990 --> 00:21:07.330 When you jump in, you are a lover. 00:21:07.510 --> 00:21:10.710 And as you progress through the game, you are a rival. 00:21:10.850 --> 00:21:12.690 Like your goal is to become a rival. 00:21:12.930 --> 00:21:15.830 If you successfully become a rival, then you drop out. 00:21:15.850 --> 00:21:16.930 Like you're that sort of... 00:21:16.950 --> 00:21:18.570 And like this is asynchronous. 00:21:18.570 --> 00:21:22.990 Like people can like work towards becoming a rival at different points. 00:21:23.010 --> 00:21:26.230 Like you could jump in 20 minutes after me, and that's totally fine. 00:21:27.630 --> 00:21:37.090 Maybe it's just button smashing, trying to say woo woo the most so that you make people hate you, so that you're no longer lovers and that you're instead just rivals. 00:21:37.350 --> 00:21:39.530 It's an anti-community building game. 00:21:40.090 --> 00:21:41.970 It's a community destroying game. 00:21:42.050 --> 00:21:45.550 Yeah, it's like Downfall, the IRC chat. 00:21:46.190 --> 00:21:54.190 Oh my god, the concept of a game of Downfall, which by the way is a tabletop game where you tell the story of a society falling apart. 00:21:54.490 --> 00:22:00.010 The idea of that, of a game of that that takes place in an IRC chat brings me with such delight. 00:22:00.250 --> 00:22:05.490 It's just fully like, that means it's about an IRC chat falling apart. 00:22:05.790 --> 00:22:07.010 Oh, so good. 00:22:07.210 --> 00:22:09.050 And then the whole time there's music, right? 00:22:09.190 --> 00:22:22.090 I think the best part about the music stream I sent to, and which I'm assuming is going to be linked in the description, you basically just have like a DJ going, except the DJ is everybody requesting songs together. 00:22:22.110 --> 00:22:30.930 It's like collaborative DJing, which is maybe just as a craving on its own, but I feel like we've spent a while on this craving. 00:22:30.950 --> 00:22:32.370 I think it's been a good while. 00:22:32.430 --> 00:22:33.890 Yeah, I think it's been a good while too. 00:22:33.890 --> 00:22:47.250 Anyways, bring back IRC chats, talk to strangers on the internet, use a pseudonym, you know, don't give your information out, and don't be a dick, and also find chats that have mods that, you know, are gonna listen. 00:22:47.350 --> 00:22:50.570 Yeah, and find good chats with good mods and good rules. 00:22:50.750 --> 00:22:53.310 And if you like Nintendo music, I've found one for you. 00:22:53.330 --> 00:22:54.370 It's in the link below. 00:22:54.590 --> 00:22:55.990 Like, comment, and subscribe. 00:22:55.990 --> 00:22:57.110 Now give me your craving. 00:22:57.750 --> 00:23:04.910 So, my cravings this week have some, let's say they are cravings with ethical implications. 00:23:05.390 --> 00:23:07.190 Ooh, I love ethical implications. 00:23:07.650 --> 00:23:10.470 My first one is directly about my... 00:23:10.490 --> 00:23:12.710 So, today you've been craving eugenics. 00:23:15.570 --> 00:23:21.210 So, today what I have been craving is a way to ethically order things online. 00:23:21.490 --> 00:23:26.570 Because I don't know if you're aware, but you can't buy things right now. 00:23:26.590 --> 00:23:28.570 Yeah, it's so hard. 00:23:28.590 --> 00:23:30.370 And if you try to, you have to do it online. 00:23:30.390 --> 00:23:32.610 And online, I never feel good about ordering from, right? 00:23:32.630 --> 00:23:33.590 Like, I have done it. 00:23:33.770 --> 00:23:37.450 I have ordered things that I have needed, but I never feel good about it. 00:23:37.470 --> 00:23:38.250 Uh-huh. 00:23:38.550 --> 00:23:38.850 Yep. 00:23:39.070 --> 00:23:48.650 That is because, especially right now, doing the job of delivering the things that you're ordering is fucking awful and terrifying and all of that. 00:23:48.810 --> 00:24:04.950 And, you know, as a father, as a person with a father who is a postal worker, it's a real tough thing for me to be like, yeah, I need to order things in, but also I hear about the conditions that my dad is in and they are not great. 00:24:05.150 --> 00:24:05.670 I don't know. 00:24:05.690 --> 00:24:08.730 I don't have like firsthand info, actually. 00:24:08.750 --> 00:24:10.390 Do you want to share maybe a little bit? 00:24:10.410 --> 00:24:11.530 That might be like good. 00:24:11.730 --> 00:24:16.570 I don't want to say what post company he works for because I don't want to get him in trouble. 00:24:16.730 --> 00:24:17.710 No, of course not. 00:24:18.030 --> 00:24:23.190 But I will say that from what he's told me, there's very little like personal protective equipment. 00:24:23.210 --> 00:24:25.610 You basically have one pair of gloves for a day. 00:24:26.170 --> 00:24:27.270 That's pointless. 00:24:28.290 --> 00:24:30.130 You might as well just be using your hands. 00:24:30.410 --> 00:24:34.750 Yeah, and you're like washing at the stations where you're sorting the mail, but that's it. 00:24:35.010 --> 00:24:35.470 Yeah. 00:24:36.250 --> 00:24:42.070 It's really not good out there, and it's also bad for just like all package delivery things and such. 00:24:42.170 --> 00:24:53.190 It's a rough time out here where I'm like, hmm, there are things that I need and also things that I want, and I can't go out and get them, so my only option is to put other people in danger. 00:24:53.210 --> 00:24:55.530 So, Clair, can we just fix this? 00:24:56.050 --> 00:24:57.610 Yeah, yeah, sure. 00:24:58.630 --> 00:25:01.210 Can we just create ethical consumption under capitalism? 00:25:03.910 --> 00:25:05.530 Yeah, let's create some... 00:25:05.730 --> 00:25:06.830 Yeah, uh-huh. 00:25:06.970 --> 00:25:10.590 You said you love ethical implications, so here you go. 00:25:11.170 --> 00:25:12.330 Did I say that? 00:25:12.550 --> 00:25:13.530 You did say that. 00:25:13.750 --> 00:25:14.210 Roll the clip. 00:25:14.230 --> 00:25:14.790 Oh, I did. 00:25:15.050 --> 00:25:15.510 Roll the... 00:25:15.650 --> 00:25:16.610 Ah, there it is. 00:25:17.170 --> 00:25:18.230 I definitely didn't... 00:25:18.450 --> 00:25:21.650 I didn't insert it again, but I'm gonna just take your word on this. 00:25:24.250 --> 00:25:25.270 So, consider this. 00:25:25.510 --> 00:25:26.830 You just give them more gloves. 00:25:26.850 --> 00:25:29.270 So, that's a start. 00:25:30.270 --> 00:25:37.470 Next, are we creating ethical consumption under capitalism, or are we just making safer work conditions for postal delivery, folks? 00:25:37.810 --> 00:25:53.190 Yeah, here's the thing is, I don't know if there is a way to create fully safe working conditions in this current climate for postal workers, so I think we just need to find a way to fix it. 00:25:55.950 --> 00:25:56.450 What if... 00:25:56.830 --> 00:25:58.510 Okay, actually, no, I figured it out. 00:25:58.670 --> 00:26:05.730 So, I'm actually gonna fix this unethical thing with another unethical thing, which is the Iron Man suit. 00:26:05.750 --> 00:26:08.950 Which is, as we all know, Tony Stark, very bad. 00:26:09.190 --> 00:26:11.110 Iron Man suit, unethical. 00:26:11.130 --> 00:26:13.170 What, but they made like three movies on him. 00:26:13.190 --> 00:26:14.610 There's no way he could be bad. 00:26:14.990 --> 00:26:16.410 Yeah, yeah, you're right. 00:26:16.510 --> 00:26:16.970 Sorry. 00:26:17.350 --> 00:26:19.890 Yeah, no, I totally cried when he died, for sure. 00:26:20.990 --> 00:26:27.170 And, but if everyone has an Iron Man suit, and you know what, let's expand this past just postal workers. 00:26:27.390 --> 00:26:32.150 Let's also expand this into like cashiers and other people who are being made to go to work. 00:26:32.510 --> 00:26:35.150 And how let's just give everyone an Iron Man suit. 00:26:35.170 --> 00:26:35.650 Why not? 00:26:35.650 --> 00:26:37.270 Let's just give everyone an Iron Man suit. 00:26:37.290 --> 00:26:37.970 They wake up. 00:26:38.050 --> 00:26:39.930 This is your like outside suit. 00:26:40.170 --> 00:26:41.390 Yeah, it's your outside suit. 00:26:41.410 --> 00:26:44.270 It's just you have it just outside your door. 00:26:44.290 --> 00:26:49.810 This is just like, this is just a hamster wheel, but it fits your body. 00:26:49.830 --> 00:26:57.530 Yeah, and it has to, and that's a significant improvement because it has to fit your body because you have to deliver the mail or do the groceries or whatever. 00:26:57.790 --> 00:27:00.710 So I think it's a huge improvement. 00:27:00.870 --> 00:27:01.330 Okay. 00:27:01.330 --> 00:27:05.650 What if I'm considering we could just pause because there's going to be clapping now. 00:27:06.970 --> 00:27:07.730 Can you hear that? 00:27:07.950 --> 00:27:09.570 Oh, we should just wait. 00:27:10.130 --> 00:27:11.890 Okay, I'm going to go get my laundry then. 00:27:11.910 --> 00:27:35.150 I just want everyone to know that we had to pause talking about how there is no protection for workers and there's no, like, ethical working in this crisis so that the people could clap at the health care workers. 00:27:36.850 --> 00:27:43.530 And this is important for me to say, even if this isn't kept in, this might just be for Clair if Clair listens to this. 00:27:46.290 --> 00:27:55.750 I just needed everyone to know that because I think it's wild and super ironic. 00:27:58.590 --> 00:28:09.130 Anyway, clapping's nice and good, but actually we should have protections in place for people rather than just kind of meaninglessly treating them like heroes. 00:28:11.050 --> 00:28:12.750 And that's what I have to say about that. 00:28:13.850 --> 00:28:15.130 Real shit moments. 00:28:18.310 --> 00:28:19.850 All right, now we can go back to the goose. 00:28:22.770 --> 00:28:23.790 And I'm back. 00:28:24.850 --> 00:28:25.510 Welcome back. 00:28:25.530 --> 00:28:26.590 You are very pixely. 00:28:27.670 --> 00:28:28.750 You're full pixels. 00:28:29.130 --> 00:28:31.290 You are fully pixels for a second. 00:28:32.170 --> 00:28:33.750 Where were we? 00:28:33.770 --> 00:28:39.750 Before we paused for that, we were talking about Iron Man suits for workers. 00:28:39.770 --> 00:28:40.070 Right. 00:28:40.850 --> 00:28:45.270 I forget what I was saying, but Iron Man suits are bad. 00:28:45.590 --> 00:28:47.910 Here's maybe a different idea. 00:28:48.390 --> 00:28:49.830 Not that, first off. 00:28:50.770 --> 00:28:56.630 I don't see that there's any ethical problems with giving every person an Iron Man suit. 00:28:56.770 --> 00:29:00.470 Okay, now when we say an Iron Man suit, can it shoot missiles? 00:29:01.030 --> 00:29:01.890 I guess. 00:29:02.270 --> 00:29:03.650 That's a problem right there. 00:29:03.670 --> 00:29:11.970 I mean, I suppose if you want to, we could limit the ability to shoot missiles to just those who work customer service. 00:29:14.090 --> 00:29:16.930 Sorry, the customer service doesn't get it. 00:29:16.950 --> 00:29:20.090 Their managers get it, you know, in case they want to quit. 00:29:20.410 --> 00:29:21.410 Oh, God. 00:29:22.890 --> 00:29:26.870 This is, you know, fixing capitalism. 00:29:27.210 --> 00:29:30.190 I believe we've now entered the realm of the cyberpunk. 00:29:30.250 --> 00:29:31.910 The cyberpunk capitalism. 00:29:31.930 --> 00:29:44.590 If you hate Iron Man suits so much, and I don't understand why you have any ethical problems with everyone having a weapon on their body, you suggest a different solution. 00:29:45.230 --> 00:29:51.410 Do you remember in like gym class, there was those little like scooters that like, God, they weren't even scooters. 00:29:51.430 --> 00:29:53.630 They were just like, there must be a name for it. 00:29:53.790 --> 00:29:55.530 The like things that slid on the ground? 00:29:55.710 --> 00:29:56.210 Yeah. 00:29:56.230 --> 00:30:01.410 And it's just like a flat dolly, but it's tiny and you just sit on it. 00:30:01.470 --> 00:30:02.750 And it's tiny. 00:30:02.770 --> 00:30:03.810 I want to like emphasize. 00:30:03.810 --> 00:30:06.310 Like maybe you could crisscross your legs on it. 00:30:06.350 --> 00:30:07.170 But what we need... 00:30:07.190 --> 00:30:08.410 And is this you, a child? 00:30:08.650 --> 00:30:10.290 We implement those. 00:30:10.630 --> 00:30:19.330 And then on top of that, do you know the technology where like toilets have like the plastic on it that like changes between uses? 00:30:19.630 --> 00:30:20.010 Yes. 00:30:20.190 --> 00:30:22.730 Now imagine one of those dollies. 00:30:22.750 --> 00:30:23.830 I'm going to call them a dolly. 00:30:23.850 --> 00:30:28.110 There's probably a word for it with plastic wrap on it that could change every time. 00:30:29.410 --> 00:30:43.570 And then you put like a package on it, or you put like a food on it, and then you push it and it goes to the other person, and they pick the thing up, and then the plastic changes, it goes back. 00:30:43.870 --> 00:30:46.550 So here's a couple of questions that I have. 00:30:46.570 --> 00:30:50.230 And now I want to, they're not criticisms, but they are questions. 00:30:50.250 --> 00:30:52.250 We don't have criticisms on this show. 00:30:52.710 --> 00:30:55.110 No, I don't like to critique. 00:30:55.550 --> 00:30:58.290 I think it like pretty aggressive. 00:30:59.090 --> 00:31:00.890 Yeah, I think it's pretty aggressive. 00:31:00.950 --> 00:31:02.350 Critique is aggressive. 00:31:02.890 --> 00:31:04.330 Yeah, I don't want to critique. 00:31:04.350 --> 00:31:07.470 I don't want to be critical, but I just do want to ask some questions. 00:31:08.530 --> 00:31:09.290 What the fuck? 00:31:09.890 --> 00:31:14.870 Because my major questions are, what if the person is not home? 00:31:15.670 --> 00:31:16.230 That's A. 00:31:16.550 --> 00:31:21.590 And then B is, so does this mean everyone has to carry around a bunch of plastic wrap? 00:31:21.870 --> 00:31:26.110 Because we'll get to that if that is the case, because I have some concerns about that. 00:31:26.130 --> 00:31:28.530 No, not concerns, questions. 00:31:29.690 --> 00:31:30.050 Uh-huh. 00:31:31.350 --> 00:31:33.770 So no, I don't think you have to carry around plastic wrap. 00:31:33.790 --> 00:31:35.350 I think it's like built in, right? 00:31:35.470 --> 00:31:39.470 Imagine like a roll of plastic wrap that automatically moved. 00:31:40.010 --> 00:31:42.290 So I do still have a question about this. 00:31:42.990 --> 00:31:46.490 But can we address first the what if you aren't home thing? 00:31:46.790 --> 00:31:48.630 I mean, it's so small, right? 00:31:48.650 --> 00:31:49.970 It could just slip under your door. 00:31:50.970 --> 00:31:51.970 What about the package? 00:31:52.690 --> 00:31:56.970 Hmm, like what if it just needs to put it on your front door, right? 00:31:57.210 --> 00:31:58.590 And it can go upstairs? 00:31:58.930 --> 00:31:59.690 Sure, why not? 00:31:59.710 --> 00:32:01.690 It can grow legs, little robot legs. 00:32:02.090 --> 00:32:03.150 Okay, it's a robot. 00:32:03.170 --> 00:32:03.410 Good. 00:32:04.690 --> 00:32:07.190 Well, it's clearly a robot because it could move. 00:32:07.210 --> 00:32:10.050 Well, I guess it didn't have to be a robot. 00:32:10.090 --> 00:32:11.890 What if it just has normal legs? 00:32:12.210 --> 00:32:14.150 What if it has not robot legs? 00:32:16.070 --> 00:32:18.030 What if you put like doll legs on it? 00:32:18.090 --> 00:32:19.510 A dolly with doll legs. 00:32:21.550 --> 00:32:23.530 And then those doll legs... 00:32:23.550 --> 00:32:23.910 A true doll? 00:32:23.930 --> 00:32:24.910 That's a true dolly. 00:32:25.270 --> 00:32:27.090 What if you had like a fan of legs? 00:32:27.190 --> 00:32:35.990 And by that, I mean like you had like six legs, sort of windmill blades, and then that's what propelled this thing. 00:32:36.550 --> 00:32:38.930 And so instead of wheels, you have legs. 00:32:39.030 --> 00:32:42.270 And so because you have like six legs, you can climb things. 00:32:42.290 --> 00:32:43.390 This is science. 00:32:43.810 --> 00:32:45.110 I mean, I guess it works. 00:32:46.390 --> 00:32:56.530 So can we just, I just want to address like another just question that I had, which is this uses a lot of plastic, and that's a problem. 00:32:56.550 --> 00:33:04.250 I mean, right now we got to use plastic because we don't have compostable plastic or compostable single-use items. 00:33:04.550 --> 00:33:04.910 Fair. 00:33:04.930 --> 00:33:07.630 Like sterile compostable single-use items. 00:33:07.650 --> 00:33:08.550 Yeah, I know, for sure. 00:33:08.750 --> 00:33:14.590 Well, maybe the solution is a sterile compostable single-use item. 00:33:15.050 --> 00:33:16.190 So we'll just make that. 00:33:16.630 --> 00:33:25.690 So we're gonna start with compostable single-use straws because apparently that is where we need to start, according to the government. 00:33:26.050 --> 00:33:26.550 Uh-huh. 00:33:26.910 --> 00:33:28.450 That's the most important thing. 00:33:28.530 --> 00:33:32.490 So that's where we're gonna start during these times, and everything else can wait. 00:33:32.850 --> 00:33:33.610 No, for sure. 00:33:33.910 --> 00:33:35.290 What are we gonna make it out of? 00:33:35.570 --> 00:33:40.850 Brianna, what's the solution that scientists have been struggling with for now many decades? 00:33:41.150 --> 00:33:43.630 Yeah, so we really wanted to be compostable and renewable. 00:33:44.130 --> 00:33:49.710 Now, I think people have used the trees for a lot of things, and I don't want to put any more strain on trees. 00:33:49.830 --> 00:33:52.390 I'm thinking the thing that trees grow in. 00:33:52.750 --> 00:33:53.210 Dirt. 00:33:53.470 --> 00:33:54.890 Dirt straws? 00:33:55.250 --> 00:33:57.910 So we don't even need to compost this? 00:33:57.930 --> 00:33:58.390 Yeah. 00:33:58.630 --> 00:33:59.770 It is the compost. 00:34:00.050 --> 00:34:00.970 A dirt box. 00:34:00.990 --> 00:34:02.150 It's called the dirt box. 00:34:02.490 --> 00:34:05.630 Alright, explain how the dirt box works. 00:34:06.210 --> 00:34:09.150 So if you compress dirt, it becomes solid. 00:34:10.530 --> 00:34:11.470 Dirt is solid. 00:34:11.890 --> 00:34:13.630 Right, but it becomes super solid. 00:34:15.250 --> 00:34:18.270 And it can be used as a box if you just compress it enough. 00:34:18.290 --> 00:34:21.870 You have to put it through a compressive machine. 00:34:21.930 --> 00:34:28.390 When you say a box, do you mean like a box in which you can put something in or just a solid cube? 00:34:28.730 --> 00:34:30.490 I mean a box you can put something in. 00:34:30.630 --> 00:34:34.990 We could already do the whole cube thing like Minecraft already showed us we can do that. 00:34:35.010 --> 00:34:41.550 So I'm really thinking past Minecraft here, and I'm thinking like just a box you can put things in. 00:34:41.690 --> 00:34:42.450 It's made of dirt. 00:34:42.770 --> 00:34:44.050 So that's the dirt box. 00:34:44.350 --> 00:34:48.010 It's a real good ethical solution is dirt. 00:34:48.190 --> 00:34:49.710 I don't know why I didn't think of that. 00:34:49.730 --> 00:34:52.190 I don't know why no one's ever thought of that. 00:34:52.270 --> 00:34:54.330 Yes, it's just, you know, there's so much dirt. 00:34:54.350 --> 00:34:56.690 It's not like we're going to run out of dirt, right? 00:34:59.990 --> 00:35:02.350 Quote from Planet that's run out of dirt. 00:35:02.370 --> 00:35:03.150 What are we going to do? 00:35:03.150 --> 00:35:07.230 Run out of the year is 2040. 00:35:07.250 --> 00:35:08.250 There's no more dirt. 00:35:10.150 --> 00:35:12.590 Wow, I really thought we weren't going to run out of dirt. 00:35:12.610 --> 00:35:17.890 There's this like quote in this textbook from this weird offhand podcast in the year 2020. 00:35:18.110 --> 00:35:20.130 There's no way we can run out of dirt. 00:35:21.970 --> 00:35:23.910 Yeah, no, it doesn't happen like that. 00:35:23.910 --> 00:35:25.630 You can't just run out of dirt. 00:35:27.030 --> 00:35:30.310 Things work like what are you going to do? 00:35:30.330 --> 00:35:32.010 Where are you going to put it? 00:35:32.150 --> 00:35:36.570 You got your dirt and then you use it and you put it back in the dirt and you're done. 00:35:36.590 --> 00:35:37.590 You've got more dirt. 00:35:37.610 --> 00:35:39.250 Yeah, that's how it works. 00:35:39.370 --> 00:35:40.670 It's renewable. 00:35:41.850 --> 00:35:47.510 If you put something in the dirt box, does it also compost because it is in the dirt box? 00:35:48.030 --> 00:35:50.490 Not immediately, no. 00:35:50.630 --> 00:35:55.090 But I mean, over time, I guess if it's compostable, it's just a box, Clair. 00:35:55.470 --> 00:35:57.290 What's the lifespan of this box? 00:35:57.810 --> 00:35:59.750 From dirt to dirt, as they say. 00:36:00.290 --> 00:36:03.210 It's actually, I was just asked to dust to dust, but sure. 00:36:03.490 --> 00:36:04.630 Yeah, that was the joke. 00:36:05.050 --> 00:36:05.590 It's fine. 00:36:05.610 --> 00:36:06.350 I'm tired. 00:36:07.730 --> 00:36:09.470 It lasts a pretty long time. 00:36:09.490 --> 00:36:11.470 It lasts five. 00:36:13.090 --> 00:36:15.070 You can't do the same joke every day. 00:36:16.150 --> 00:36:17.450 Five what, Brianna? 00:36:17.470 --> 00:36:17.990 Hours? 00:36:18.010 --> 00:36:18.770 Give me a unit. 00:36:19.250 --> 00:36:19.930 Oh, wow. 00:36:20.750 --> 00:36:24.670 I really thought you were just going to say like five horses or something. 00:36:24.690 --> 00:36:26.230 No, no, five hours. 00:36:26.790 --> 00:36:35.410 I just I felt like I was kind of embarrassed because the scientists told me originally that they could make it last for like five weeks. 00:36:35.750 --> 00:36:42.750 But then I looked at the data and I looked at the papers that I have in front of me, and it actually only lasts for five hours. 00:36:42.950 --> 00:36:49.150 So I love that the scientists told you five weeks, and then you discerned that they were actually wrong. 00:36:49.170 --> 00:36:50.010 It's five hours. 00:36:52.670 --> 00:36:57.190 Well, no, they said that originally at the start of the project when we first conceived of the dirt box. 00:36:57.210 --> 00:37:02.310 And then they sent me the dirt box stats, and I saw that it said five hours. 00:37:03.130 --> 00:37:06.670 This is different from the soap box stats. 00:37:06.690 --> 00:37:08.350 Hey, what if we just use soap? 00:37:08.630 --> 00:37:12.710 What if we invent the soap box, but like the other soap box? 00:37:13.030 --> 00:37:14.310 Tell me about the soap box? 00:37:15.010 --> 00:37:16.830 I mean, what is there to tell, right? 00:37:17.110 --> 00:37:17.950 You know what it is. 00:37:17.990 --> 00:37:20.890 I say soap box, and you got a perfect image in your head. 00:37:20.910 --> 00:37:22.010 Is it a box out of soap? 00:37:22.210 --> 00:37:25.410 Yeah, which is so much better than the dirt box. 00:37:25.730 --> 00:37:28.170 Yeah, I mean, it's gonna keep people's hands clean, you know? 00:37:28.190 --> 00:37:29.370 Gotta wash the soap. 00:37:29.390 --> 00:37:31.770 Now, the thing about the soap box and the dirt box... 00:37:32.010 --> 00:37:37.770 By the way, the soap box and the dirt box is my favorite weird animated movie from the 90s. 00:37:43.050 --> 00:37:44.230 It's a great love story. 00:37:45.370 --> 00:37:47.990 Wait, it's just the dirt bag and the soap box. 00:37:50.370 --> 00:37:51.450 Oh, the dirt bag. 00:37:51.470 --> 00:37:52.270 That's even better. 00:37:52.290 --> 00:37:56.810 I'll see if we can whip up a dirt bag for him and then we can put the dirt bag in the soap box. 00:37:58.030 --> 00:37:58.650 Oh my God. 00:37:58.670 --> 00:38:04.950 And if you double package it, then your hands don't get dirty because you clean your hands from the dirt on the soap box. 00:38:05.530 --> 00:38:07.690 Don't handle the dirt bag for too long. 00:38:07.970 --> 00:38:10.090 No, that one is a concern for sure. 00:38:11.770 --> 00:38:13.810 I feel like that's a pretty good solution. 00:38:14.230 --> 00:38:17.090 All things told, we have a dolly with doll legs. 00:38:17.370 --> 00:38:19.190 We have a dirt bag in a soap box. 00:38:19.530 --> 00:38:22.550 That's really all you need to make things safe for people. 00:38:22.570 --> 00:38:24.450 Ethical consumption under capitalism. 00:38:24.710 --> 00:38:28.950 That's it for ethical consumption under capitalism. 00:38:29.150 --> 00:38:30.210 So thinking about... 00:38:30.230 --> 00:38:33.910 Can you give me your second craving of our 20 craving extravaganza? 00:38:34.110 --> 00:38:40.050 Yeah, thinking about this ethical consumption, I have actually hit this dilemma as well recently. 00:38:40.510 --> 00:38:46.970 Because as I am now working from home, that involves me sitting at my computer a lot. 00:38:47.410 --> 00:38:51.810 And I am using my office chair, which I have had for... 00:38:52.650 --> 00:38:54.890 Well, I was a teenager when I got it. 00:38:56.170 --> 00:38:56.410 Oh, wow. 00:38:56.670 --> 00:38:57.930 And that's not great. 00:38:57.950 --> 00:39:02.410 And like, I can feel that it's not great, if you know what I mean. 00:39:02.430 --> 00:39:06.330 So I've been big craving a new office chair. 00:39:06.750 --> 00:39:11.410 So what do I look for when I look for an office chair? 00:39:11.570 --> 00:39:13.630 Like, how many nozzles does it need? 00:39:13.630 --> 00:39:15.030 Do I need the one with NOS? 00:39:15.170 --> 00:39:16.410 Does it need to light up? 00:39:16.570 --> 00:39:18.770 I think lighting up is an absolute necessity. 00:39:18.950 --> 00:39:22.630 Yeah, I think the first consideration should be that it lights up. 00:39:22.670 --> 00:39:23.690 I think it needs to be able... 00:39:23.710 --> 00:39:25.590 You need to be able to choose custom colors. 00:39:25.850 --> 00:39:27.350 This is a requirement, yeah. 00:39:27.410 --> 00:39:30.490 Yeah, it really needs to scream gamer. 00:39:30.710 --> 00:39:31.730 It needs to like... 00:39:32.230 --> 00:39:39.810 When you're doing work, it needs, you know, when you're on a Zoom call or whatever, you need all of the work, all of your fellow, your coworkers. 00:39:39.810 --> 00:39:44.490 And this was one of my concerns is, what am I going to do about my coworkers seeing this amazing chair? 00:39:44.510 --> 00:39:45.510 What are they going to think? 00:39:45.690 --> 00:39:51.590 How do I get a chair that both screams comfort, gamer and professional? 00:39:51.950 --> 00:39:54.270 What is the intersection of this Venn diagram? 00:39:54.590 --> 00:39:58.150 I think black is the intersection of the first... 00:39:58.170 --> 00:39:59.630 Just a normal office chair. 00:40:01.330 --> 00:40:06.170 It's got to be black because gamer chairs are black and professional chairs are black. 00:40:06.190 --> 00:40:11.030 I feel like if it doesn't have neon green or orange, it's not a real gamer chair. 00:40:11.050 --> 00:40:12.670 Okay, I have it. 00:40:12.810 --> 00:40:13.690 I have an idea. 00:40:13.770 --> 00:40:16.050 Business in the front, party in the back. 00:40:17.450 --> 00:40:18.990 I'm going to get the mullet chair. 00:40:19.230 --> 00:40:20.270 Get the mullet chair. 00:40:20.530 --> 00:40:26.010 Everything that is visible to the camera is boring and black, professional, very all that. 00:40:26.230 --> 00:40:28.850 But in the back, it lights up. 00:40:29.090 --> 00:40:30.510 It's going crazy. 00:40:30.610 --> 00:40:32.710 You've given me the most wonderful idea. 00:40:33.290 --> 00:40:36.030 Do you know like a whiteboard that you can flip? 00:40:36.310 --> 00:40:38.910 Like it's a two-sided whiteboard and you can flip it. 00:40:39.070 --> 00:40:40.350 You know what I'm talking about? 00:40:40.730 --> 00:40:42.030 What if that but a chair? 00:40:42.210 --> 00:40:45.430 What if you could just entirely flip the back of the chair? 00:40:45.810 --> 00:40:53.610 So like one side of it is like neon Genesis, Evangelion side, and then you've got your Madoka side. 00:40:53.870 --> 00:40:54.190 What? 00:40:55.550 --> 00:40:55.890 Nothing. 00:40:56.450 --> 00:41:00.030 You've got your perfectly normal business side, and then you've got your neon side. 00:41:00.050 --> 00:41:02.930 I was going to ask you to choose a business-y professional anime. 00:41:02.930 --> 00:41:05.030 What is the most professional anime? 00:41:05.230 --> 00:41:07.410 What is the anime you can tell your coworkers about? 00:41:08.170 --> 00:41:09.630 Oh, God. 00:41:09.710 --> 00:41:11.950 What is the anime you can talk... 00:41:11.970 --> 00:41:12.650 Dragon Ball? 00:41:13.070 --> 00:41:13.690 Naruto. 00:41:13.970 --> 00:41:14.550 Naruto. 00:41:14.930 --> 00:41:16.010 I don't know. 00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:17.730 I don't think Naruto makes the cut. 00:41:17.750 --> 00:41:21.370 I think Dragon Ball is like a cultural touchstone, right? 00:41:21.390 --> 00:41:23.070 Like everyone knows what a Dragon Ball is. 00:41:23.090 --> 00:41:26.090 Are you fucking telling me Naruto is not a cultural touchstone? 00:41:26.390 --> 00:41:30.010 I think it's not a cultural touchstone you want your coworkers to know about. 00:41:30.030 --> 00:41:32.490 You said, what's the business anime? 00:41:32.730 --> 00:41:33.910 And I think Goku... 00:41:34.290 --> 00:41:35.950 Goku in a suit, you know? 00:41:35.970 --> 00:41:37.630 Goku could fit a suit. 00:41:37.850 --> 00:41:39.970 Goku, Goku, he's just in a suit. 00:41:39.990 --> 00:41:44.230 He's got his like crazy hair, like combed back, and he's like in... 00:41:44.590 --> 00:41:45.490 Oh, my God. 00:41:45.510 --> 00:41:48.330 He's like full on Super Saiyan, but he has a comb over. 00:41:50.870 --> 00:41:56.410 He's like, oh, hello, I'm here to talk about the report on the Dragon Balls. 00:41:57.210 --> 00:41:59.270 I know so much about Dragon Ball, you can tell. 00:42:00.150 --> 00:42:02.870 Today, I'm going to talk about supply and demand. 00:42:02.890 --> 00:42:05.850 You see, everyone demands the Dragon Balls. 00:42:06.070 --> 00:42:11.810 And let me tell you, I have two Dragon Balls, and I can supply you with those, but you're going to have to give me something great. 00:42:12.110 --> 00:42:14.230 Anyways, the bidding starts at three wishes. 00:42:17.110 --> 00:42:28.710 The thing about the mullet chair is I don't see why you can't take it a step further and have your whole setup be able to just shift at the drop of a hat. 00:42:28.950 --> 00:42:37.870 So like your keyboard goes from like being a very normal keyboard to like one that's all light up and gamer and all that. 00:42:37.950 --> 00:42:46.730 Your mouse pad goes from being like a nice picture of a beast being one of those that has like the big like fucking weird ass or titty like things. 00:42:47.050 --> 00:42:48.710 Oh, God, I knew you were going to say that. 00:42:48.730 --> 00:42:51.370 I was like, please say literally anything else. 00:42:51.390 --> 00:42:53.810 Like, please say a picture of Naruto. 00:42:53.810 --> 00:42:56.890 For God's sake, just don't say exactly what you said. 00:42:57.790 --> 00:43:00.150 It's the business picture of Goku, but his ass. 00:43:04.130 --> 00:43:07.790 He's leaned over, he's looking behind him. 00:43:08.530 --> 00:43:12.570 Both one of the mouse pads is the business picture of Goku looking very normal. 00:43:12.590 --> 00:43:14.590 And then that's the business one. 00:43:15.810 --> 00:43:20.030 But the thing is, the armrest is the butt on both of them. 00:43:20.690 --> 00:43:24.410 Yeah, it's perfect. 00:43:25.110 --> 00:43:26.050 Oh, God. 00:43:26.330 --> 00:43:27.750 Now, let's talk about comfort. 00:43:27.770 --> 00:43:29.430 What do you find comfortable in an office chair? 00:43:29.770 --> 00:43:32.530 So, you know the anime Death Note? 00:43:32.730 --> 00:43:33.470 Death Note, yes. 00:43:33.490 --> 00:43:34.410 I'm familiar with Death Note. 00:43:34.950 --> 00:43:36.190 Do you know... 00:43:36.550 --> 00:43:37.030 Oh, God. 00:43:37.050 --> 00:43:38.130 I think his name is L. 00:43:38.410 --> 00:43:41.390 He sits in a chair with his legs pulled against him. 00:43:41.850 --> 00:43:44.050 Okay, I'm not that familiar with Death Note, but I... 00:43:44.170 --> 00:43:45.690 All right, you know the fetal position? 00:43:46.050 --> 00:43:48.050 I'm familiar with the fetal position. 00:43:48.310 --> 00:43:49.530 You find yourself in it often. 00:43:49.550 --> 00:43:51.570 I'm much more familiar with the fetal position. 00:43:51.950 --> 00:43:54.490 I sit like that in chairs, like all the time. 00:43:54.590 --> 00:43:56.570 And I need a chair that can deal with that. 00:43:56.830 --> 00:44:02.030 Because my chair, I do that, like, I sit like that most of the time in my chair. 00:44:02.510 --> 00:44:10.910 And most, like, professional high-end business chairs, you cannot do that in, and so they are worse than my shitty $100 chair from 10 years ago. 00:44:11.290 --> 00:44:12.470 So here's what I'm thinking. 00:44:12.850 --> 00:44:13.750 Leg strap. 00:44:14.190 --> 00:44:24.270 It comes out past the armrest, and it's just a band that you can just, like, put past your legs and just have your legs fetal positioned in. 00:44:24.290 --> 00:44:25.350 Does this make any sense? 00:44:25.730 --> 00:44:30.430 It feels like you mean, like, locking myself into the chair, like a roller coaster. 00:44:30.630 --> 00:44:31.550 Yes, basically. 00:44:31.670 --> 00:44:33.450 Like, this sounds uncomfortable. 00:44:33.470 --> 00:44:35.230 It's like, buckle up, children. 00:44:35.250 --> 00:44:36.490 We're going for a ride. 00:44:36.770 --> 00:44:37.850 It's comfortable. 00:44:38.470 --> 00:44:39.170 Explain. 00:44:39.190 --> 00:44:41.390 You're gonna have to explain. 00:44:41.410 --> 00:44:43.910 So cocoon comfortable. 00:44:44.230 --> 00:44:45.170 This comfortable. 00:44:45.170 --> 00:44:46.010 No, okay. 00:44:46.250 --> 00:44:54.330 I do want to point out that your body does dissolve if you go into a cocoon, and by you, I mean caterpillars or larvae. 00:44:54.350 --> 00:44:58.550 But then you come out of the cocoon, and you're a pretty ass butterfly. 00:44:58.570 --> 00:45:00.030 Don't you want wings, Clair? 00:45:00.050 --> 00:45:01.850 This is how you get wings. 00:45:01.870 --> 00:45:02.510 I don't. 00:45:02.850 --> 00:45:03.970 I don't like Red Bull. 00:45:04.090 --> 00:45:06.090 Well, I want wings, so I'm gonna get this chair. 00:45:06.490 --> 00:45:12.570 And then you're gonna feel so uncool, because I'm gonna be flying, and you're gonna be like, sitting there in your chair doing work. 00:45:12.970 --> 00:45:14.930 I think that's also a solution to your craving. 00:45:14.950 --> 00:45:16.290 We just got to give everyone wings. 00:45:16.730 --> 00:45:20.550 I don't see how that helps at all, either remotely, a little bit. 00:45:20.950 --> 00:45:23.730 But you know what, would have given them wings, the Iron Man suit, it's fine. 00:45:24.090 --> 00:45:26.410 We just need an Iron Angel suit. 00:45:26.750 --> 00:45:29.330 I could be your Iron Angle or your Iron Devil. 00:45:31.490 --> 00:45:34.450 Well, you mean your Iron Angel or your Iron Man? 00:45:34.470 --> 00:45:39.270 Yeah, that's an option, but I guess you hate that for some reason. 00:45:39.450 --> 00:45:45.330 I want to be clear, like I do put my legs down sometimes, or I put my legs up, or I like lean back. 00:45:46.150 --> 00:45:47.810 That's why you can undo the band. 00:45:48.050 --> 00:45:50.830 All right, it kind of sounded like I was in for a ride. 00:45:50.850 --> 00:45:51.870 No, no, no, no. 00:45:51.890 --> 00:45:53.230 You're in control of the band. 00:45:53.430 --> 00:45:57.290 You have a button on your armrest that lets you snap back the band. 00:45:57.690 --> 00:46:03.030 I just want like a wide, I sort of just want like a big area to sit in, right? 00:46:03.050 --> 00:46:05.110 I want to be able to cross my legs. 00:46:05.370 --> 00:46:06.830 Okay, so it's a throne. 00:46:08.430 --> 00:46:09.770 It's a throne on wheels. 00:46:10.150 --> 00:46:15.310 When I do think of a throne, I think of like a very stiff seat. 00:46:15.990 --> 00:46:17.190 But not on this one. 00:46:17.590 --> 00:46:30.490 It's like the Game of Thrones throne, but it's made of like pillows or even better, those tubes that you like put in the water and then like are buoyant because of worms. 00:46:30.650 --> 00:46:31.950 No, what are those called? 00:46:32.050 --> 00:46:33.670 Water tubes, water worms. 00:46:33.990 --> 00:46:36.730 Talking about, oh, God, what are they called? 00:46:37.510 --> 00:46:39.710 Nope, no knowledge. 00:46:40.130 --> 00:46:41.170 Pool Noodle. 00:46:41.550 --> 00:46:42.410 Pool Noodle. 00:46:42.490 --> 00:46:44.730 Yeah, what if it's just made out of pool noodles? 00:46:46.570 --> 00:46:48.610 So instead of swords, it's just pool noodles. 00:46:48.930 --> 00:46:49.850 Yeah, perfect. 00:46:49.870 --> 00:46:50.350 Incredible. 00:46:50.570 --> 00:46:51.150 I think that's all. 00:46:51.170 --> 00:46:52.530 And then you can strap in. 00:46:52.930 --> 00:46:54.230 Strap in, you know? 00:46:54.550 --> 00:46:55.870 You're the queen now. 00:46:56.590 --> 00:46:58.010 I'm the pool noodle queen. 00:46:58.030 --> 00:47:02.570 In your gamer chair, your professional gamer chair, mullet chair. 00:47:02.590 --> 00:47:03.690 It's still a mullet chair. 00:47:04.090 --> 00:47:04.870 I want to leave. 00:47:05.330 --> 00:47:08.110 Leadership in the front, party in the back. 00:47:08.590 --> 00:47:09.990 What's your craving? 00:47:10.990 --> 00:47:16.130 So, as I said, my cravings have an ethical bend to them today. 00:47:16.470 --> 00:47:22.530 This one is a craving that I have, though I know it is almost certainly unethical in today's world. 00:47:22.630 --> 00:47:24.930 And also, for what it's worth is impossible. 00:47:25.590 --> 00:47:26.790 That is birthing children. 00:47:26.810 --> 00:47:29.810 Finally, to be able to get pregnant and give birth. 00:47:29.930 --> 00:47:31.650 This is just a real genuine craving. 00:47:31.670 --> 00:47:33.470 This is one of the first cravings I ever wrote down. 00:47:34.450 --> 00:47:37.530 Yeah, that's a thing that I would love to be able to do. 00:47:38.010 --> 00:47:45.430 It's unethical in today's society, I think, to bring more beings into this world that is going down the drain. 00:47:45.750 --> 00:47:47.690 Or at least there's ethical considerations. 00:47:48.470 --> 00:47:52.350 But it's also physically impossible, so that's fine. 00:47:52.710 --> 00:48:00.750 Now, I do want to bring up that there have been trials of transplanting uteruses. 00:48:01.270 --> 00:48:03.690 So far, it's been mostly for cis women. 00:48:05.370 --> 00:48:13.990 And also, for what it's worth, even if there were that for trans women, my body is fucked enough that I doubt that I would be given much of an opportunity to do such a thing. 00:48:14.230 --> 00:48:15.250 Probably not. 00:48:15.490 --> 00:48:17.470 These are the sad facts. 00:48:18.350 --> 00:48:19.610 The sacks. 00:48:20.050 --> 00:48:21.290 That's the sacks. 00:48:23.150 --> 00:48:26.370 But if it were possible, that would be just dope. 00:48:26.410 --> 00:48:27.710 That would be super duper dope. 00:48:27.950 --> 00:48:30.310 Okay, there's so many things here. 00:48:30.510 --> 00:48:33.330 What is it about this that you are craving? 00:48:33.770 --> 00:48:43.050 There is a dual thing of one on the level of dysphoria, and I would like to be able to get pregnant. 00:48:43.390 --> 00:48:47.570 And the other one is I want kids, which is a thing that I can totally do. 00:48:47.670 --> 00:48:48.990 I could adopt children. 00:48:49.310 --> 00:48:52.270 I don't super duper care about having biological children. 00:48:52.290 --> 00:48:56.190 I don't consider it more valuable to have biological children than to have adopted children. 00:48:56.450 --> 00:49:07.810 And also, I say I could go adopt children, but there's lots of bias in adoption agencies as to what sort of person is allowed to adopt children. 00:49:08.570 --> 00:49:10.090 That's the thing. 00:49:10.110 --> 00:49:11.330 Those are both of the things. 00:49:11.950 --> 00:49:12.430 I don't know. 00:49:12.530 --> 00:49:15.010 There's not really anything funny to say about this craving. 00:49:15.030 --> 00:49:23.730 It's just a craving that I had that I wanted to bring up because sometimes you have cravings and there's not really joke slash mean potential. 00:49:23.750 --> 00:49:24.230 I don't know. 00:49:24.530 --> 00:49:26.090 There's some joke slash mean potential. 00:49:26.230 --> 00:49:26.990 We're both trans. 00:49:27.650 --> 00:49:28.230 Yeah. 00:49:28.450 --> 00:49:36.870 Now, I'd be lying if I said I'd never had this craving, but I'd also be lying if I said I had this craving recently. 00:49:38.130 --> 00:49:46.810 And I think the younger generation of trans folks has made me really appreciate what I can do. 00:49:47.130 --> 00:49:55.710 And then the rest of the way in terms of dealing with that and getting over that for myself at least was adoption. 00:49:56.490 --> 00:50:05.550 And I mean, I speak from a very privileged place where most of the time that's financial, and that is where my privilege mostly lies. 00:50:05.570 --> 00:50:07.870 And it's complicated. 00:50:07.950 --> 00:50:12.550 There's a lot of bias against disabled folks in terms of taking care of children and stuff like that. 00:50:12.670 --> 00:50:13.270 No, yeah, no. 00:50:13.290 --> 00:50:19.110 Adoption is totally a thing that when I do eventually have kids, it will be through adoption, hopefully. 00:50:19.590 --> 00:50:20.350 And it's totally... 00:50:21.330 --> 00:50:22.310 It's a real ass thing. 00:50:22.530 --> 00:50:23.090 So the dysphoria. 00:50:24.090 --> 00:50:30.770 I don't know if there's a solution to that other than working through and like... 00:50:31.050 --> 00:50:33.570 And I think it's a thing that I've mostly worked through. 00:50:33.570 --> 00:50:36.850 I've mostly kind of dealt with those feelings. 00:50:36.870 --> 00:50:43.410 They just come up every so often now and again, and it's just like, okay, that's a feeling, and I'm gonna pass that. 00:50:43.990 --> 00:50:44.370 Hmm. 00:50:44.650 --> 00:50:46.590 I feel bad for bringing up a sad craving. 00:50:46.810 --> 00:50:48.630 Can we make jokes about this? 00:50:49.170 --> 00:50:49.730 We can. 00:50:49.750 --> 00:50:50.850 I think we can. 00:50:51.090 --> 00:50:51.650 We have the power. 00:50:52.270 --> 00:50:56.010 I mean, I could tell you what I immediately thought, like when you first brought it up. 00:50:56.030 --> 00:50:57.330 What would you immediately think? 00:50:57.350 --> 00:50:58.810 Well, there were two, right? 00:50:58.870 --> 00:51:03.190 The first one was like, what if there was like a VR headset slash like... 00:51:03.670 --> 00:51:05.450 That sounds wild. 00:51:07.130 --> 00:51:08.490 Okay, so you know... 00:51:10.010 --> 00:51:11.770 Now, you did say childbirth. 00:51:11.830 --> 00:51:13.750 I just want to make clear, like... 00:51:13.850 --> 00:51:16.590 Oh, I did specifically say childbirth, uh-huh. 00:51:17.010 --> 00:51:23.370 And you know there's those like suits that can like make you experience the pain of childbirth, right? 00:51:23.850 --> 00:51:25.630 What if you paired that with VR? 00:51:26.490 --> 00:51:28.670 Great, great and terrible. 00:51:29.530 --> 00:51:31.250 This is totally feasible. 00:51:31.510 --> 00:51:33.310 Yeah, no, that's totally doable. 00:51:33.510 --> 00:51:35.530 Okay, so Brianna, this is what we do. 00:51:35.790 --> 00:51:42.030 So we dope you up for eight months or nine months, depending on if you want an early pregnancy or not. 00:51:43.470 --> 00:51:45.110 And then like at the very end... 00:51:45.130 --> 00:51:46.090 See section or not. 00:51:46.710 --> 00:51:47.250 Yeah, right. 00:51:47.270 --> 00:51:51.230 Well, the thing is we just want to make sure that you're like unsure of reality. 00:51:51.410 --> 00:51:56.990 And then at the end of it, we're going to hook you up to this VR headset and make you experience childbirth. 00:51:57.010 --> 00:52:02.170 And then we're going to have like a child adopted ready for you, and you're going to have a child. 00:52:02.190 --> 00:52:08.310 And so now you've experienced basically the entirety of the process. 00:52:08.770 --> 00:52:12.650 Yeah, that sounds like a great solution to that. 00:52:13.250 --> 00:52:14.570 Yeah, it's super normal. 00:52:15.290 --> 00:52:20.670 That was kind of a combination of my two was like the thing that makes you feel like you're doing it. 00:52:20.690 --> 00:52:30.470 And then also VR, but also like I'm trying to like if you want the experience of like, I was going to say getting pregnant, but you can have that experience. 00:52:30.490 --> 00:52:33.810 The experience of like being pregnant. 00:52:34.930 --> 00:52:36.770 I mean, we kind of did that. 00:52:37.130 --> 00:52:39.530 We went through puberty already twice. 00:52:39.850 --> 00:52:41.110 Oh, we did puberty twice. 00:52:41.130 --> 00:52:41.630 It was a time. 00:52:42.910 --> 00:52:48.550 I want us to consider transhumanist notions of pregnancy. 00:52:48.570 --> 00:52:50.850 Okay, you're going to have to elaborate. 00:52:51.090 --> 00:52:54.090 So I mostly wanted to talk about transhumanism. 00:52:54.490 --> 00:52:57.090 Okay, you're still going to have to elaborate. 00:52:57.310 --> 00:53:10.330 So transhumanism is the like field and concept of like a personhood that is past or is not predicated on humanity is like, what is it like to be a person who is not human? 00:53:10.730 --> 00:53:12.670 That is, that's the first thing. 00:53:12.690 --> 00:53:14.530 And often it involves being a robot. 00:53:14.590 --> 00:53:16.390 It's often like a sci-fi thing. 00:53:16.410 --> 00:53:18.690 So you want to get robot pregnant? 00:53:19.130 --> 00:53:19.930 I'm just saying. 00:53:21.610 --> 00:53:22.290 You know what? 00:53:22.410 --> 00:53:27.810 I think if you go transhumanist enough, then pregnancy is no longer a thing. 00:53:27.830 --> 00:53:30.550 All right, you're going to have to lead me down this path. 00:53:30.570 --> 00:53:31.470 Where have you gone? 00:53:32.090 --> 00:53:45.590 So if people are no longer human, if everyone is in the future, as they will be in the future, you know, there's all sorts of different considerations of like what it means to be a person, right? 00:53:46.310 --> 00:53:52.410 And suddenly, pregnancy is not a core facet of womanhood. 00:53:52.750 --> 00:53:53.610 No more dysphoria. 00:53:53.990 --> 00:53:58.490 There's also just the thing of we could separate pregnancy from the conception of womanhood. 00:53:58.510 --> 00:54:02.070 Yeah, I was gonna say that's sort of what is currently occurring. 00:54:02.890 --> 00:54:03.950 You're absolutely right. 00:54:04.250 --> 00:54:06.170 And also transhumanism is... 00:54:08.290 --> 00:54:10.390 All right. 00:54:10.530 --> 00:54:27.990 But no, we could just conceive of pregnancy as disconnected from womanhood in a significant enough way so that it's no longer dysphoria inducing and create a new gender structure and a new kind of more inclusive understanding of what gender is. 00:54:28.190 --> 00:54:29.670 Yeah, we could do that. 00:54:30.530 --> 00:54:33.490 That seems like a thing that we somehow haven't done. 00:54:35.290 --> 00:54:36.030 How do we do that? 00:54:36.170 --> 00:54:37.710 So let's talk about this. 00:54:37.750 --> 00:54:43.110 Let's talk about how do we simply make gender better? 00:54:43.450 --> 00:54:46.950 I mean, this comes in the concept of like, are we talking about... 00:54:47.190 --> 00:54:55.470 God, maybe we've been avoiding this because there's so many like, it's hard to talk about, right? 00:54:55.630 --> 00:55:05.090 Because you have the approach of like, gender is psychological, or gender is sociological, or gender is biological, et cetera, et cetera, right? 00:55:05.110 --> 00:55:09.470 I don't say I necessarily subscribe to any one or multiple of those. 00:55:09.490 --> 00:55:12.030 I'm just saying those are the school of thoughts that are out there. 00:55:12.270 --> 00:55:18.670 And often in quote unquote conservative right leaning circles, it's biology that's subscribed to more. 00:55:19.770 --> 00:55:20.670 And of course this... 00:55:21.210 --> 00:55:22.490 Now I want to be clear. 00:55:22.690 --> 00:55:27.530 I'm going to make a point that someone who I don't necessarily enjoy made the point of. 00:55:27.670 --> 00:55:35.430 ContraPoints a while ago, who is someone that I watched a couple of videos of when sort of the canceling, the first canceling occurred. 00:55:35.450 --> 00:55:38.330 The first canceling. 00:55:38.610 --> 00:55:41.490 I just want to pick out the phrase the first canceling. 00:55:41.830 --> 00:55:43.610 That's an excellent turn of phrase. 00:55:43.630 --> 00:55:44.190 Continue. 00:55:45.110 --> 00:55:48.070 And so I was like, okay, my Twitter is blowing up. 00:55:48.090 --> 00:55:49.210 I need context. 00:55:49.330 --> 00:55:50.730 I need to understand what's going on. 00:55:51.090 --> 00:55:55.050 And so one of the videos that she made, there was like one point. 00:55:55.070 --> 00:56:07.670 I actually hated the video at large, but there was one point within the video that she said, why do we have to subscribe to any of these sort of trains of thoughts? 00:56:07.690 --> 00:56:08.430 Why does it have to be? 00:56:08.570 --> 00:56:10.070 Why does it have to be any of them? 00:56:10.430 --> 00:56:12.890 Why do we have to explain transness? 00:56:12.910 --> 00:56:14.990 Like, why do we have to explain gender? 00:56:15.190 --> 00:56:23.390 If you go up to someone and say, hey, I'm gay, more often than not, now people don't go prove it, right? 00:56:23.570 --> 00:56:27.510 Or the other side, it's just social isolating. 00:56:27.530 --> 00:56:28.550 Not isolating. 00:56:28.570 --> 00:56:31.230 Well, scientifically, you have to prove to me. 00:56:31.250 --> 00:56:34.250 You have to scientifically prove that you're a lesbian. 00:56:34.670 --> 00:56:43.150 But that exists for transness, and that stems from, I think, the theory of gender is newer than the theory of sexuality. 00:56:43.410 --> 00:56:45.670 I think that's a very good point. 00:56:45.750 --> 00:57:01.970 And I think, you know, there is this conceit that is common among a lot of queer and trans communities of like, oh, you know, the best way to think about gender is like, there is no gender, gender isn't real in any way, which I think is short-sighted. 00:57:02.470 --> 00:57:04.290 I don't subscribe to that personally. 00:57:04.670 --> 00:57:05.790 I will get political. 00:57:05.990 --> 00:57:07.270 I don't subscribe to that. 00:57:07.370 --> 00:57:09.750 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Salt Cravings is political now. 00:57:09.930 --> 00:57:22.890 And one of the things is like, you know, gender is really meaningful for a lot of people in a lot of different ways and in a lot of different understandings of what gender is and what people's own gender is. 00:57:23.310 --> 00:57:23.610 Yeah. 00:57:23.630 --> 00:57:33.690 I think like, you know, while we can conceive of it as like, oh, gender identity or gender expression or shitheads who think of it as biological. 00:57:33.790 --> 00:57:42.650 Like, there can be gender without necessarily having this really systematized way of thinking about gender. 00:57:42.990 --> 00:57:44.690 Now, I want to, I want to start. 00:57:44.710 --> 00:57:48.130 I want to like sort of dissect one of the things you just said. 00:57:48.150 --> 00:57:49.970 You said shitheads who think it's biological. 00:57:50.710 --> 00:57:55.230 I think taking biology off the table completely is also short-sighted. 00:57:55.450 --> 00:57:59.650 Now, I don't want to get into the like, but I think like... 00:57:59.670 --> 00:58:02.950 I'm meaning a very specific type of shithead. 00:58:03.330 --> 00:58:20.130 But we live in a society with a hyperfixation on biology, and so therefore, whether or not you want it to, biology will influence your experience of gender, whether or not it dictates how we think of our gender. 00:58:20.410 --> 00:58:21.650 I mean, it kind of does, right? 00:58:21.670 --> 00:58:21.950 It does. 00:58:22.050 --> 00:58:23.390 It absolutely does. 00:58:23.550 --> 00:58:32.890 In 2020, transness, as we see it, is influenced by what the generation before us dictated our biology was to us. 00:58:33.170 --> 00:58:35.770 Yeah, and you know, that's definitely true. 00:58:35.790 --> 00:58:43.670 But you know what would make it not true, is if we lived in a transhumanist world in which there was no even biology, in which none of us had bodies. 00:58:44.390 --> 00:58:45.910 Okay, you want to become ghosts. 00:58:46.550 --> 00:58:47.550 I'm saying, ghost gender. 00:58:47.570 --> 00:58:48.730 What's the ghost gender? 00:58:48.910 --> 00:58:49.830 Fuck it, ghost gender. 00:58:49.850 --> 00:58:52.070 Alright, great, it's ghost gender time. 00:58:52.230 --> 00:58:55.110 God, I feel like ghosts are already gendered enough. 00:58:55.130 --> 00:58:57.570 You ever think of the gendering of ghosts? 00:58:57.810 --> 00:58:59.750 I'm thinking about the gendering of ghosts now. 00:59:00.330 --> 00:59:06.590 And the different ways in which male ghosts and female ghosts are conceived of, and also the notion that they're- 00:59:06.610 --> 00:59:08.010 What is a female and male ghost? 00:59:08.030 --> 00:59:09.210 What does that even mean? 00:59:09.650 --> 00:59:14.090 I feel like in general, there is this kind of difference of what- 00:59:14.110 --> 00:59:18.810 Because even from a biological standpoint, ghosts don't have biology. 00:59:19.070 --> 00:59:29.790 Yeah, but there is this kind of notion of, you can see in a lot of representations of what ghosts are, I think that male ghosts and female ghosts are conceived of differently. 00:59:29.810 --> 00:59:36.550 But now this is just, I mean, I know we're talking about media because this is where most references to ghosts come from. 00:59:36.970 --> 00:59:38.190 But okay, all right. 00:59:38.210 --> 00:59:43.370 But I guess I was playing in the realm of, like, what if we're talking about ghosts in real life? 00:59:43.370 --> 00:59:45.950 Like, how do you gender a ghost in real life? 00:59:46.290 --> 00:59:47.570 That's a great question. 00:59:47.690 --> 00:59:49.250 How do you gender a ghost, Clair? 00:59:49.750 --> 00:59:58.310 I don't think this falls apart because sociologically, we don't have, well, okay, I shouldn't say we don't have a society of ghosts. 00:59:58.770 --> 01:00:02.970 We think of ghosts culturally, and different cultures think of ghosts differently. 01:00:03.330 --> 01:00:12.330 So, like, already you've come into contact with the idea of gender as different for ghosts between cultures, which is already a thing, not applied to ghosts. 01:00:12.950 --> 01:00:13.950 And that's sociologically. 01:00:14.030 --> 01:00:16.970 Biologically, what the fuck is a ghost biologically? 01:00:16.990 --> 01:00:18.670 So I'm just going to jump over that one. 01:00:18.750 --> 01:00:28.290 I mean, I feel like if there is a biological component, it is the notion that a ghost maintains their gender, their biological gender, into the afterlife. 01:00:28.730 --> 01:00:29.890 What the fuck is biologic? 01:00:29.910 --> 01:00:30.090 Like... 01:00:30.390 --> 01:00:31.410 No, I know, no, I know. 01:00:31.430 --> 01:00:33.130 But that is how a lot of people think of it. 01:00:33.150 --> 01:00:34.630 But you lose your body. 01:00:34.910 --> 01:00:37.530 Yeah, but like, you don't have a body. 01:00:37.710 --> 01:00:39.650 So now we're talking about spiritual gender. 01:00:39.690 --> 01:00:41.870 What is your spiritual gender, Brianna? 01:00:42.230 --> 01:00:45.930 This is the gender you're going to take to as a ghost, right? 01:00:45.950 --> 01:00:49.550 Like, maybe I'm a trans woman when I'm alive. 01:00:49.830 --> 01:00:55.890 But like, when I die, I'm going to become a different gender, because now this is my spiritual gender. 01:00:56.130 --> 01:00:59.650 When I die, I'm going to have the gender of... 01:01:04.770 --> 01:01:10.930 I like that vibe. 01:01:10.950 --> 01:01:11.970 Let's go with that. 01:01:11.990 --> 01:01:13.890 You're going to become Sonic the Hedgehog. 01:01:13.910 --> 01:01:14.430 In the afterlife. 01:01:15.270 --> 01:01:16.150 You'll be sitting at home. 01:01:16.330 --> 01:01:17.610 You'll be sitting at home one day. 01:01:18.070 --> 01:01:22.150 And you'll just hear out of the car of your ear, gotta go fast. 01:01:24.710 --> 01:01:25.550 You're too slow. 01:01:26.190 --> 01:01:27.970 That's actually a little terrifying. 01:01:28.570 --> 01:01:31.110 Give me the Sonic the Hedgehog ghost movie. 01:01:33.790 --> 01:01:38.030 That'll be one of the movies in the Sonic Cinematic Universe. 01:01:38.370 --> 01:01:39.150 Oh my God. 01:01:39.430 --> 01:01:40.770 Sonic the Ghost Hog. 01:01:41.010 --> 01:01:49.290 When they finally killed Sonic in the final Infinity Sonic Wars, the sequel to that is Sonic Endgame. 01:01:49.310 --> 01:01:50.310 Uh-huh. 01:01:50.470 --> 01:01:51.930 And then it's the Ghost Wars. 01:01:52.310 --> 01:01:56.130 You know, I think in a roundabout way, this kind of solved my craving. 01:01:56.690 --> 01:01:57.210 Great. 01:01:57.470 --> 01:02:01.610 Because I'm no longer thinking about giving birth, now I'm thinking about Sonic the Ghost Hog. 01:02:03.990 --> 01:02:04.830 Uh, don't worry. 01:02:04.870 --> 01:02:08.490 If you ever give birth, your child can become Sonic the Birth- 01:02:08.490 --> 01:02:09.430 the Birth Hog. 01:02:09.650 --> 01:02:11.450 Sonic the Birth Hog. 01:02:12.110 --> 01:02:13.730 Sonic the Birth Hog. 01:02:14.190 --> 01:02:14.670 Thanks. 01:02:15.070 --> 01:02:15.750 I hate it. 01:02:17.830 --> 01:02:18.390 Oh, God. 01:02:18.410 --> 01:02:20.350 This has been Salt Cravings. 01:02:20.370 --> 01:02:23.050 We'll get to the other, I guess, 18. 01:02:23.070 --> 01:02:23.770 Don't we have to do- 01:02:23.790 --> 01:02:26.490 We said 20 Cravings, right? 01:02:42.450 --> 01:02:42.850 Ready? 01:02:42.870 --> 01:02:43.310 Three, two, one. 01:02:44.750 --> 01:02:46.210 This has been Salt Cravings. 01:02:46.430 --> 01:02:48.450 Thank you all for listening. 01:02:48.770 --> 01:02:57.390 If you want to, you could follow us on social media at Salt Cravings on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 01:02:57.410 --> 01:02:57.990 That's where it is. 01:02:58.250 --> 01:03:06.790 If you want to leave us a craving that you want us to do for you personally, send us an email over at submissions at saltcravings.com. 01:03:07.030 --> 01:03:10.710 Just to clarify, we won't do it personally. 01:03:15.230 --> 01:03:21.250 We will whisper into the mic for you and solve it just for you. 01:03:21.270 --> 01:03:23.430 And then we'll publish it live. 01:03:23.990 --> 01:03:28.810 I think after this week, you can tell that we can solve any cravings. 01:03:28.830 --> 01:03:30.510 Serious, funny, whatever. 01:03:31.070 --> 01:03:34.130 So I guess give us a dollar over at Patreon because we're so good. 01:03:34.150 --> 01:03:36.090 Yeah, give us a dollar over at Patreon. 01:03:36.270 --> 01:03:42.330 Leave us a review or a rating on iTunes or your podcast app of choice. 01:03:42.870 --> 01:03:55.270 And it says here on this paper that I'm reading that you can now birth both ghosts and hedgehogs at the same time and they will fuse and become a ghost hog. 01:03:55.590 --> 01:03:57.630 So I've got, I have good news for you, Brianna. 01:03:57.950 --> 01:03:59.670 Oh, this is the best news. 01:03:59.690 --> 01:04:00.830 I'm gonna go do that right now.