WEBVTT 00:00:25.778 --> 00:00:29.218 Hello, and welcome to Salt Cravings, an actual Crave podcast. 00:00:29.238 --> 00:00:30.178 My name's Clair. 00:00:30.198 --> 00:00:32.718 And my name's Brianna. 00:00:32.898 --> 00:00:42.198 And as always, our craving principles are to keep the cravings amusing and unusual, be a fan of each other, and crave to find out what happens. 00:00:42.418 --> 00:00:43.878 Brianna, how are you doing today? 00:00:43.898 --> 00:00:46.098 I can't believe you beat me to it. 00:00:46.118 --> 00:00:46.958 You did it first. 00:00:47.058 --> 00:00:50.058 I have that, I have my version of that written down as well. 00:00:50.258 --> 00:00:51.598 Can you just do yours? 00:00:51.598 --> 00:00:53.098 Just do it, just bring it up. 00:00:53.218 --> 00:00:54.298 I'll do mine, I'll do mine. 00:00:54.718 --> 00:00:56.778 All right, let me let me grab it. 00:00:57.318 --> 00:01:03.838 Welcome to Salt Cravings, an actual salt podcast focused on critical cravings, smart solutions, and fun interaction between two friends. 00:01:04.858 --> 00:01:06.158 See, we got the best of both worlds. 00:01:06.178 --> 00:01:07.118 I'm your host, Brianna. 00:01:07.538 --> 00:01:08.678 And I'm Clair. 00:01:09.758 --> 00:01:12.318 We did, we got the best of both worlds. 00:01:12.338 --> 00:01:13.138 The best of both worlds. 00:01:13.158 --> 00:01:14.078 The best of both worlds. 00:01:14.258 --> 00:01:15.378 We're so good at this. 00:01:15.878 --> 00:01:21.138 Both, the real, real, wait, the YouTube poop episode with last episode, we can't do this again. 00:01:22.618 --> 00:01:24.938 There can all be poop episodes if you believe it. 00:01:25.438 --> 00:01:27.138 That was a cute and fun intro, Clair. 00:01:27.158 --> 00:01:28.318 I'm glad that you did that. 00:01:28.378 --> 00:01:30.598 I'm sorry I beat you to the intro. 00:01:30.618 --> 00:01:32.318 No, I appreciate it. 00:01:32.378 --> 00:01:33.078 I appreciate it. 00:01:33.098 --> 00:01:36.138 I think yours is, I liked yours more than I liked mine. 00:01:36.158 --> 00:01:38.938 I think yours was more original. 00:01:38.958 --> 00:01:39.818 I think it was. 00:01:40.258 --> 00:01:43.518 I mean, neither of them are original. 00:01:43.538 --> 00:01:47.018 I suspect that some of our listeners may in fact be confused right now. 00:01:48.098 --> 00:01:49.398 What we've done here. 00:01:49.418 --> 00:01:50.218 No, they'll figure it out. 00:01:50.438 --> 00:01:54.878 If they've been listening to this podcast for, what is it, 46 episodes now? 00:01:54.878 --> 00:02:03.038 Like, if you've been listening to this podcast for 46 episodes at this point, 45 episodes, I should correct myself. 00:02:03.678 --> 00:02:06.158 And you're like, what was that a reference to? 00:02:06.338 --> 00:02:09.138 Then, I mean, figure it out. 00:02:09.158 --> 00:02:09.978 Like, I don't know. 00:02:09.998 --> 00:02:13.238 Go listen to like 44 episodes and figure it out. 00:02:13.258 --> 00:02:14.758 There's like clues everywhere. 00:02:16.238 --> 00:02:20.098 We've left clues as an ARG, and the ARG is we really like things. 00:02:20.518 --> 00:02:27.058 Yeah, the clue is we really like things, which is definitely not just everything that comes up in this podcast. 00:02:27.338 --> 00:02:29.598 But Brianna, I believe you're going first. 00:02:29.618 --> 00:02:32.798 So what have you brought to the kitchen today? 00:02:33.098 --> 00:02:37.218 Well, so, Clair, let's talk about... 00:02:37.578 --> 00:02:38.918 Which one do I want to start with, actually? 00:02:38.918 --> 00:02:40.578 Let's talk about sex, baby. 00:02:40.938 --> 00:02:43.118 Let's talk about me and me. 00:02:43.458 --> 00:02:47.198 Let's talk about isolation and how it affects my sex drive. 00:02:47.518 --> 00:02:47.858 What? 00:02:50.658 --> 00:02:51.798 Sorry, what happened? 00:02:51.818 --> 00:02:52.558 Nothing, go on. 00:02:52.578 --> 00:02:53.558 What was your craving? 00:02:53.578 --> 00:02:56.798 I'll start. 00:02:56.818 --> 00:03:00.338 It's always good to get into the meat at the end. 00:03:00.358 --> 00:03:03.438 So let's start out with the more... 00:03:03.458 --> 00:03:05.178 The vegetarian take. 00:03:05.518 --> 00:03:09.498 Let's get into the vegetarian take, which is, hey, you know, Picru? 00:03:10.298 --> 00:03:15.638 Yeah, the make-your-own-avatar website, Picru, right? 00:03:16.578 --> 00:03:19.838 For a second, I thought you said Piccolo, and I was like, yeah, I know Piccolo. 00:03:19.958 --> 00:03:21.078 I'm aware of Piccolo. 00:03:21.098 --> 00:03:23.098 Piccolo, like, Piccolo fucks. 00:03:23.618 --> 00:03:24.538 Piccolo fucks. 00:03:24.578 --> 00:03:25.938 But tell me about Picru. 00:03:26.198 --> 00:03:33.198 So Picru is an online tool to allow you to kind of create primarily avatars. 00:03:33.458 --> 00:03:36.098 It's like a dress-up game, usually folks-on-the-face. 00:03:36.178 --> 00:03:37.998 It is, I believe, Japanese in origin. 00:03:38.338 --> 00:03:41.518 And almost all of the text on the site is Japanese, right? 00:03:41.538 --> 00:03:43.358 And most of the Picru creators are Japanese. 00:03:43.578 --> 00:03:49.438 But it has enjoyed and gained some popularity fairly quickly around here as well. 00:03:49.638 --> 00:03:54.198 And one of the things about it is that there's a lot of Picru's. 00:03:54.378 --> 00:03:57.758 One of the other things about it is that there's not a lot of great Picru's. 00:03:58.398 --> 00:03:59.158 Yeah. 00:03:59.558 --> 00:04:00.678 I had a question. 00:04:00.698 --> 00:04:02.118 So one of the, yes. 00:04:02.378 --> 00:04:11.938 Not to, like, go back into the, like, one of the themes of Salt Cravings to a new Cravings, but I've noticed at least the ones that get popular. 00:04:11.958 --> 00:04:14.598 I haven't ever seen a fat Picru. 00:04:14.858 --> 00:04:24.778 Like, the newest one that's blowing up is like, this new one is like, I feel like the, I don't want to be like the body style, but like, it's the same body style every single time. 00:04:25.058 --> 00:04:25.658 Yeah, it is. 00:04:25.918 --> 00:04:27.658 This is definitely one of the things. 00:04:27.678 --> 00:04:34.138 I've seen a couple that have, like, options where you can make the person a little bit chubbier, which I appreciate as a little bit of a chubbier person. 00:04:34.498 --> 00:04:35.958 There are ones that are specifically made. 00:04:35.978 --> 00:04:36.598 I have a couple. 00:04:36.618 --> 00:04:37.418 I can send them to you. 00:04:37.438 --> 00:04:38.178 Okay. 00:04:38.198 --> 00:04:39.318 But they're pretty few and far between. 00:04:39.598 --> 00:04:47.138 One of the other things is, this is probably something that you don't see as much because you've mostly seen the ones that get really popular here. 00:04:47.538 --> 00:04:59.558 But when you're trawling through the Pickroo muck, trying to find good ones, a lot of Pickroos have very, very few, if any, dark skin options. 00:04:59.578 --> 00:05:02.098 There's a lot of them that are really, really white. 00:05:02.118 --> 00:05:03.358 But there's a lot of, like, blue skin. 00:05:03.378 --> 00:05:05.778 Blue skin options and red skin options. 00:05:05.798 --> 00:05:06.078 Yes. 00:05:06.498 --> 00:05:13.858 Yeah, there's a lot where it's like, oh, yes, light skin, slightly dark skin, blue skin, green skin, pink skin. 00:05:13.878 --> 00:05:18.338 Like, it's a pretty ridiculous thing in that way. 00:05:18.358 --> 00:05:22.238 You can be a bubblegum creature, but you can't be like a black person. 00:05:22.478 --> 00:05:23.478 Yeah, basically. 00:05:23.758 --> 00:05:27.598 And so, like, both of these things raise some considerations for sure. 00:05:27.798 --> 00:05:29.298 The reason that I like Pickroos. 00:05:29.838 --> 00:05:30.918 The reason I like the Pickroos. 00:05:32.138 --> 00:05:34.398 Sorry for immediately shitting on your Craving. 00:05:34.758 --> 00:05:35.698 No, no. 00:05:35.918 --> 00:05:38.058 My, literally, what I've written down is better Pickroos. 00:05:38.078 --> 00:05:46.378 I want better Pickroos because, so the thing that I like about Pickroos a lot is that I can't draw particularly well. 00:05:46.598 --> 00:05:53.638 I can like doodle here and there, but I find that it limits my ability to do character design, particularly. 00:05:53.658 --> 00:05:59.878 I don't believe you can pick Cruz to myself, but especially recently, what I've mostly been focusing on is using it for character design for various things. 00:06:00.478 --> 00:06:17.298 And I like that a lot because when you design a character in like pickers of like 15 different styles or whatever, you get a really good idea of like, what are the core kind of noticeable facial features that this person has, this character has, like what does this character look like? 00:06:17.398 --> 00:06:19.278 What is the constant across all of these? 00:06:19.718 --> 00:06:27.118 The problem is, is that like, you have to find the pickers that actually have the options that allow you to design the character. 00:06:27.398 --> 00:06:42.718 And even when that your character is like fully human character, I've designed human and non-human characters and pickers, but even when your character is fully human, you have challenges because you're like, okay, this style seems like it would work really well for this, ah, shit, they have no options here. 00:06:42.738 --> 00:06:44.698 I'm not gonna use this one, right? 00:06:44.878 --> 00:06:49.838 And so that is the biggest thing for me is, I like pickers a whole lot. 00:06:49.918 --> 00:07:02.658 I wish that they had more options and were more diverse so that I could use them to design characters and also do fun pickers of myself, because I am, as always, interested in myself. 00:07:04.778 --> 00:07:06.858 That's fair, it's good to be interested in yourself. 00:07:06.878 --> 00:07:09.038 Yeah, yeah, that's why I like them. 00:07:09.718 --> 00:07:11.338 How do we make the crews better? 00:07:11.358 --> 00:07:13.738 What if you could add the crews together? 00:07:13.758 --> 00:07:16.378 This is exactly what I was about to say. 00:07:17.398 --> 00:07:18.538 Like I really like- 00:07:18.558 --> 00:07:20.718 I'm talking, here's these two- 00:07:20.738 --> 00:07:21.898 Picker abomination. 00:07:22.198 --> 00:07:25.238 Oh, you had the entire, I was going like, cute. 00:07:25.258 --> 00:07:28.858 I was like, oh, so I really like this style, but I like this feature. 00:07:28.878 --> 00:07:32.938 Let me just like port this feature into the style. 00:07:33.278 --> 00:07:34.598 Oh, that's really cute. 00:07:34.998 --> 00:07:35.558 Yeah, that makes sense. 00:07:35.578 --> 00:07:40.078 We need like a little algorithm that just is like, ah, is this a scar over the eye? 00:07:40.098 --> 00:07:42.858 What does a scar over the eye look like in this other artist? 00:07:43.138 --> 00:07:44.938 And I mean, we technically have this. 00:07:44.958 --> 00:07:54.298 You can technically feed an algorithm a bunch of paintings and then give it another painting and be like, paint this in the other painting style, and it will do that. 00:07:54.558 --> 00:07:55.618 Like, those are real. 00:07:57.138 --> 00:07:58.938 All of our cravings can be done in real life. 00:07:58.958 --> 00:07:59.978 What am I talking about? 00:08:01.118 --> 00:08:02.678 Well, I don't know that that's true. 00:08:02.698 --> 00:08:06.098 We definitely craved some fantasy things before. 00:08:06.118 --> 00:08:08.218 Did you forget the last craving of the last episode? 00:08:11.178 --> 00:08:15.598 The other thing that you can do with an algorithm is you could instruct it to make fake people. 00:08:15.638 --> 00:08:17.798 Have we talked about this on the podcast yet? 00:08:18.378 --> 00:08:19.258 Which thing? 00:08:19.538 --> 00:08:20.058 Like, there's- 00:08:20.078 --> 00:08:21.978 Like, thispersondoesnotexist.com. 00:08:24.918 --> 00:08:29.378 But you did show me, yeah, you showed me that website recently. 00:08:29.598 --> 00:08:31.998 My favorite is thiscatdoesnotexist. 00:08:32.898 --> 00:08:41.018 Yeah, so there's a series of sites that are like thispersondoesnotexist.com, thiscatdoesnotexist.com, thisartdoesnotexist.com. 00:08:41.038 --> 00:08:41.698 I think there's a horse. 00:08:41.718 --> 00:08:42.358 And it generates. 00:08:42.758 --> 00:08:43.558 Yeah, there's horses. 00:08:43.558 --> 00:08:45.258 Oh, that one does not work. 00:08:46.098 --> 00:08:46.578 That one's great. 00:08:46.598 --> 00:08:47.618 That one's my favorite. 00:08:47.778 --> 00:08:48.598 No, actually, sorry. 00:08:48.618 --> 00:08:49.118 Because it makes- 00:08:49.378 --> 00:08:50.258 This is maybe my favorite. 00:08:50.278 --> 00:08:50.898 Horses and combinations. 00:08:51.218 --> 00:08:53.318 thismoleculedoesnotexist.com. 00:08:53.478 --> 00:08:55.578 And it's like, it's kind of just cool. 00:08:55.738 --> 00:09:03.518 Cause like, I, as not a chemist or a biologist in any stretch of the imagination, would look at it and go, that looks like a molecule. 00:09:03.818 --> 00:09:05.158 That probably exists. 00:09:05.798 --> 00:09:09.478 I've also just clicked on thisarticledosnotexist.com for news. 00:09:09.878 --> 00:09:10.418 Oh God. 00:09:10.438 --> 00:09:10.758 Boy. 00:09:10.778 --> 00:09:12.298 Boy, these seem real. 00:09:12.598 --> 00:09:14.258 Boy, these sure seem real. 00:09:14.558 --> 00:09:15.278 I really appreciate. 00:09:15.818 --> 00:09:20.218 LiveThread11, global COVID-19 pandemic. 00:09:20.238 --> 00:09:21.858 I really appreciate. 00:09:22.038 --> 00:09:23.358 LiveThread11. 00:09:24.038 --> 00:09:25.238 LiveThread11? 00:09:25.258 --> 00:09:26.158 What does that mean? 00:09:26.178 --> 00:09:26.698 Just like... 00:09:27.158 --> 00:09:29.698 I don't know, but it's www.reddit.com. 00:09:32.598 --> 00:09:33.158 What's enough? 00:09:33.178 --> 00:09:35.078 Can you just give me one more article? 00:09:35.098 --> 00:09:37.298 Can you just generate one more article for me? 00:09:37.558 --> 00:09:39.698 Yeah, it has a whole list of them here. 00:09:39.958 --> 00:09:45.638 Oh, I really like, I really like largest ever hole in the ozone layer above arctic finally closes. 00:09:45.658 --> 00:09:47.738 Yeah, that one's not real. 00:09:50.818 --> 00:09:51.858 Oh, it's very cool. 00:09:52.298 --> 00:09:54.138 Have I told you about... 00:09:54.418 --> 00:10:04.198 Sorry, this is a complete tangent, but have I told you about how old data science methods missed a hole in the ozone layer for 20 years, I think. 00:10:04.218 --> 00:10:05.938 I think it was either 10 or 20 years. 00:10:06.078 --> 00:10:07.658 I think I've heard about this, yes. 00:10:07.718 --> 00:10:21.978 We had the data to tell us there was a hole in the ozone layer, and because the old method of data analysis was discard outliers, like if there are data outliers, just get rid of them. 00:10:22.598 --> 00:10:24.858 Don't do any analysis on the outliers. 00:10:24.938 --> 00:10:31.398 We did that for 10 years, and then someone came along and was like, why are there so many data points over here? 00:10:31.818 --> 00:10:35.218 And then they figured out that, oh, they're not outliers. 00:10:35.238 --> 00:10:40.498 That's just a giant hole in the ozone layer that we've been missing, even though this data is 10 years old. 00:10:40.878 --> 00:10:45.738 So anyways, lesson learned, don't discard your outliers without a really good reason. 00:10:45.758 --> 00:10:49.098 How people treat minorities. 00:10:51.738 --> 00:10:53.698 I think we can apply that to Pickroos as well. 00:10:53.778 --> 00:10:55.138 Let's apply that to Pickroos. 00:10:55.158 --> 00:11:01.658 I think, you know, there's a lot of Pickroos out there that have like this one really specific thing that I'm like, oh, I love that, because I can use that for this character. 00:11:01.838 --> 00:11:05.638 There's like a couple of Pickroos out there that have like crowns and tiaras. 00:11:05.638 --> 00:11:10.118 And I'm like, hell yeah, I have a princess OC, so that's perfect for her. 00:11:10.458 --> 00:11:16.858 So I'm saying, just take just anything that you can find in a Pickroo that doesn't suck for some reason. 00:11:17.298 --> 00:11:19.218 Just throw it in the mega Pickroo. 00:11:19.418 --> 00:11:20.898 I'm saying cat cheeks. 00:11:21.398 --> 00:11:21.758 Sure. 00:11:21.778 --> 00:11:23.118 I'm saying duck hands. 00:11:23.598 --> 00:11:26.558 There is, there is Fursona makers out there, so. 00:11:28.058 --> 00:11:30.998 I think we can just make the mega Pickroo. 00:11:31.018 --> 00:11:33.598 Fursona is that video game that Joker's from, right? 00:11:36.698 --> 00:11:38.018 No, that's Fursona 5. 00:11:39.158 --> 00:11:41.818 Is a better Pickroo just second life creator? 00:11:42.318 --> 00:11:46.298 Like you could probably make so many things in second life. 00:11:46.638 --> 00:11:49.018 Probably, but here's the thing about the Pickroo. 00:11:49.038 --> 00:11:50.098 It's just a dress up thing. 00:11:50.118 --> 00:11:50.718 It's fun. 00:11:50.718 --> 00:12:03.898 You can just make it, you can just sit in your, can you play second life sitting in bed with one hand, having your phone with one hand and just scrolling through options and just doing it super easy? 00:12:04.178 --> 00:12:09.738 You do that, Clair, and can you do that for like 15 characters in a row? 00:12:09.818 --> 00:12:14.958 If they made a mobile second life, wait, I need to Google if there's a mobile second life. 00:12:15.258 --> 00:12:22.098 No, but there is Avakin or Mobile Grid Client or Little Sight. 00:12:22.918 --> 00:12:33.338 Having seen Avakin played in a Monster Factory episode, I'm gonna go ahead and say it's not gonna serve the same purpose as what I want. 00:12:33.358 --> 00:12:33.838 That's fair. 00:12:35.518 --> 00:12:42.998 But I think if we do have this kind of mega Pickroo, which is just a whole bunch of different styles, I think that would work pretty well. 00:12:43.018 --> 00:12:44.718 We just would need to make that happen. 00:12:45.238 --> 00:12:47.838 Yeah, so we just need to hire some developers. 00:12:48.458 --> 00:12:52.918 Right, this is the thing, is we just need to get some developers, we need to get some artists. 00:12:53.698 --> 00:12:55.218 Oh, wait, I have a better idea. 00:12:55.518 --> 00:12:59.658 Can't we just make Pickroo accounts and then steal everyone's artwork? 00:12:59.838 --> 00:13:01.358 That's like super normal, right? 00:13:01.698 --> 00:13:05.378 Yeah, that's totally allowed, and encouraged. 00:13:05.998 --> 00:13:11.998 And if you look at the amount of Pickroos that say, do not steal this on them. 00:13:12.138 --> 00:13:13.898 They're surprisingly zero of them. 00:13:14.558 --> 00:13:15.198 It's weird. 00:13:15.218 --> 00:13:16.078 Yeah, surprisingly. 00:13:16.098 --> 00:13:21.698 It's weird how many of them in the descriptions say, actually, you should totally steal this. 00:13:22.678 --> 00:13:24.058 Use this for business purposes. 00:13:24.078 --> 00:13:27.238 Oh, are we using it for, wait, is this a business Pickroo? 00:13:27.678 --> 00:13:33.058 No, it's just that every Pickroo says, do not use this for business purposes, personal only. 00:13:33.278 --> 00:13:34.638 Which is so funny to me. 00:13:35.278 --> 00:13:41.558 That's the idea that someone would make a Pickroo and then use it for professional reasons. 00:13:42.018 --> 00:13:50.958 I did one time set up a crew as my profile photo for a company I worked at, just because I didn't wanna give them an actual photo of me. 00:13:50.978 --> 00:13:53.418 Ah, so you've committed a crime. 00:13:53.438 --> 00:13:54.498 I've committed a crime. 00:13:54.518 --> 00:13:57.878 You committed a Pickroo crime, the worst type of crime. 00:13:57.898 --> 00:13:58.718 A Pickrime. 00:13:59.538 --> 00:14:00.498 A Pickrime. 00:14:03.458 --> 00:14:06.018 I guess you don't get to develop the- 00:14:06.198 --> 00:14:07.338 I go to pick jail. 00:14:07.358 --> 00:14:08.298 Pickroo amalgam. 00:14:08.558 --> 00:14:09.118 Yeah. 00:14:09.838 --> 00:14:14.558 So like, how does the transferring from one style to another go? 00:14:14.758 --> 00:14:15.718 How does that work? 00:14:16.298 --> 00:14:18.698 Like in real life, or are we talking about the Craving? 00:14:18.718 --> 00:14:20.038 Let's talk about the Craving. 00:14:20.078 --> 00:14:35.038 If we were to make this mega Pickroo, in which you could take things from one style and transfer them to a different style, just super easily and simply, I'm assuming we'd need artists, but is there some automated way to do it? 00:14:35.658 --> 00:14:36.438 Absolutely. 00:14:36.458 --> 00:14:37.198 I like... 00:14:37.298 --> 00:14:38.338 What would that look like? 00:14:38.658 --> 00:14:58.118 So you know how in the Animal Crossing QR code generator for like drawing your own art and then making it into like, like it could be like that, but you basically give it a bunch of links and then it like generates from those Pickroo links, your new set of options. 00:15:00.978 --> 00:15:05.598 I still feel like this is stealing art, but now it's stealing art with an algorithm. 00:15:06.238 --> 00:15:08.118 And you know robots can't do crime. 00:15:10.678 --> 00:15:12.778 No one has ever used a robot to do crime. 00:15:13.238 --> 00:15:15.218 Show me one robot that's been arrested. 00:15:15.238 --> 00:15:18.278 I need to Google, has a robot been arrested? 00:15:18.298 --> 00:15:18.998 One second. 00:15:19.018 --> 00:15:20.658 Yeah, can you Google this? 00:15:20.678 --> 00:15:22.618 I almost typed, has a Google been arrested? 00:15:26.638 --> 00:15:29.598 Well, there goes our Google sponsorship, Clair. 00:15:29.958 --> 00:15:32.338 This episode is sponsored by Google Glass. 00:15:33.098 --> 00:15:34.418 Oh, wait, that's dead. 00:15:35.198 --> 00:15:37.078 Just like everything that Google makes. 00:15:37.098 --> 00:15:39.118 Clair, Clair, it's sponsored by Google Plus. 00:15:39.258 --> 00:15:39.998 Oh, shit. 00:15:40.498 --> 00:15:45.358 All right, so the first hit is, a robot was just arrested by Russian police. 00:15:45.398 --> 00:15:46.638 And then the second hit is- 00:15:46.658 --> 00:15:48.538 You put air quotes around arrested. 00:15:48.538 --> 00:15:49.798 It's in air quotes. 00:15:50.838 --> 00:15:54.858 The second one is, can you arrest a robot by MIT technology? 00:15:56.218 --> 00:15:58.418 Well, I assume MIT would know. 00:15:58.858 --> 00:16:01.658 Right, if anyone's gonna know that it's MIT, I guess. 00:16:02.118 --> 00:16:03.718 But like Russia did it. 00:16:03.718 --> 00:16:05.118 So I guess the answer is yes. 00:16:05.578 --> 00:16:07.798 Hey, did you say MIT technology? 00:16:07.978 --> 00:16:08.398 Yeah. 00:16:08.738 --> 00:16:12.438 That is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Technology. 00:16:12.598 --> 00:16:13.958 It's like ATM machine. 00:16:14.398 --> 00:16:14.778 Right. 00:16:14.958 --> 00:16:16.858 Look, English isn't a good language. 00:16:16.878 --> 00:16:17.938 We do this all the time. 00:16:17.958 --> 00:16:19.378 This is a very normal thing. 00:16:19.658 --> 00:16:20.158 You're right. 00:16:20.218 --> 00:16:22.818 It is a normal thing, ATM machine, all of that. 00:16:22.838 --> 00:16:25.338 But I do think it's very funny to call it technology. 00:16:25.358 --> 00:16:26.138 Pin number? 00:16:26.338 --> 00:16:27.178 Yeah, pin number. 00:16:27.198 --> 00:16:28.658 I forget that that one's sin number. 00:16:28.978 --> 00:16:31.238 What's the ethical way to do the mega-Picruz? 00:16:32.038 --> 00:16:34.698 Uh, I mean, Picruz don't make money as is. 00:16:34.718 --> 00:16:41.838 So I guess you just put like 10 copyright symbols on top of the Picruz where it links back to like the original Picruz. 00:16:42.518 --> 00:16:47.858 Actually, hey, you know, when you make a Picruz, it doesn't like put a link on the Picruz. 00:16:48.158 --> 00:16:49.078 Let's fix that. 00:16:49.518 --> 00:16:53.298 It's like, let's make some like shortened URL. 00:16:53.318 --> 00:16:59.198 So, you know, like Bit.ly has like, you can make a URL or any URL shortener. 00:16:59.558 --> 00:17:01.298 We're gonna make our own URL shortener. 00:17:01.318 --> 00:17:03.658 It's gonna go pi.cruz. 00:17:04.178 --> 00:17:06.418 And so it's just gonna be like, yeah. 00:17:06.438 --> 00:17:08.818 So like those are just gonna appear on our new one. 00:17:08.838 --> 00:17:11.838 And those are gonna link back to the original Picruz. 00:17:12.018 --> 00:17:13.458 And so you can't make one. 00:17:13.638 --> 00:17:21.298 You can't make one of these mega-Picruz or macruz that I'm now calling them without linking back to the Picruz. 00:17:21.758 --> 00:17:23.538 We have to distinguish it from the Picruz. 00:17:23.558 --> 00:17:24.478 It's a micru now. 00:17:24.838 --> 00:17:30.838 I also think that maybe Picruz should just have a better, like, what's it, what's the word? 00:17:32.018 --> 00:17:33.598 Not moderation, not filtering. 00:17:34.798 --> 00:17:42.818 The thing that I'm trying to say is, I think that Picruz, just the site itself, should be better at choosing what to bring to the top. 00:17:43.238 --> 00:17:46.018 And choosing what to kind of feature and stuff like that. 00:17:46.038 --> 00:17:53.578 Oh, wait, whoa, wait, when you say bring to the top, do you mean, like, I want the hair above the hat or something? 00:17:53.598 --> 00:17:53.878 No, no. 00:17:57.918 --> 00:18:02.678 Oh, you mean, like, on the front page, you mean, like, which Picruz are gonna be displayed? 00:18:04.678 --> 00:18:05.938 I know what you mean, though. 00:18:05.958 --> 00:18:06.798 You know the word I mean. 00:18:06.818 --> 00:18:13.118 It's like the word for what Steam is really bad at, and what, like, Nintendo is bad at. 00:18:13.438 --> 00:18:17.018 Anyway, if any of you remember the word, if anyone of you know the word that I'm talking about... 00:18:17.038 --> 00:18:18.658 Tweet at Brianna a billion times. 00:18:19.158 --> 00:18:20.778 Yeah, just tweet at Price of Bri. 00:18:21.118 --> 00:18:22.818 Like, just do it, honestly. 00:18:22.838 --> 00:18:26.458 Yeah, anyway, so I think it should be better at doing that. 00:18:26.658 --> 00:18:29.318 I think it should be better at choosing those. 00:18:29.618 --> 00:18:32.718 So you want, you want Picru, but Reddit. 00:18:33.278 --> 00:18:33.698 No. 00:18:33.938 --> 00:18:35.778 Where did you get that from? 00:18:35.878 --> 00:18:36.778 I just was thinking about... 00:18:36.798 --> 00:18:38.278 I don't want the culture of Reddit on Picru. 00:18:39.038 --> 00:18:41.338 But like, the Reddit moderation system. 00:18:41.718 --> 00:18:44.738 Yeah, I wouldn't mind a moderation system of some kind. 00:18:45.098 --> 00:18:51.738 I just think that displaying Picru's on like, the front page of your site that have no dark skin options sucks. 00:18:52.458 --> 00:18:53.158 Mm-hmm. 00:18:53.578 --> 00:19:00.058 And also the fact that you can't find one for like, fat or chubby people until you go like, ten pages in. 00:19:00.418 --> 00:19:04.938 Damn, when you said, you're like, they exist, I was not expecting, yeah, ten pages in. 00:19:05.298 --> 00:19:06.298 Listen, I'm going deep. 00:19:07.538 --> 00:19:11.418 I, this pickeroo has become like, my nightly habit where I try and find good pickers. 00:19:12.018 --> 00:19:13.918 But we fixed it with the mega pickeroo. 00:19:14.138 --> 00:19:15.238 Clair, do you have a craving? 00:19:15.538 --> 00:19:17.978 Nah, I actually left mine at home, sorry. 00:19:17.998 --> 00:19:19.238 Oh, damn. 00:19:19.258 --> 00:19:21.258 Do you want to like, grab you? 00:19:21.258 --> 00:19:23.298 I might have one if you want. 00:19:23.318 --> 00:19:25.178 Just like, borrow a craving? 00:19:25.198 --> 00:19:27.818 Yeah, just gonna pass it through the computer screen. 00:19:28.598 --> 00:19:30.418 Just here, here you go. 00:19:30.658 --> 00:19:32.858 Just take that, and there you go. 00:19:33.018 --> 00:19:33.938 There's a craving for you. 00:19:34.438 --> 00:19:35.598 I didn't actually decide- 00:19:35.618 --> 00:19:37.418 Is my craving not good enough for you? 00:19:38.038 --> 00:19:44.898 I'm just, I'm looking at it, and I'm like, hmm, do I want this craving to be inside of me? 00:19:44.918 --> 00:19:47.838 Do I want this to be my craving? 00:19:48.478 --> 00:19:52.898 And I'm like, feeling, I'm swishing it around in my mouth a bit, and I like the mouth feel. 00:19:52.918 --> 00:19:53.458 I don't know if- 00:19:55.698 --> 00:19:56.718 I'm just gonna- 00:19:57.418 --> 00:19:59.158 The mouth feel of a craving. 00:20:00.718 --> 00:20:02.298 So here's, here's my craving. 00:20:02.798 --> 00:20:07.398 With isolation occurring, I have been craving people reaching out more. 00:20:08.398 --> 00:20:13.238 And this craving applies to myself as well, because I have a hard time reaching out. 00:20:13.378 --> 00:20:15.518 I feel I'm very busy. 00:20:15.538 --> 00:20:16.718 That's not really an excuse. 00:20:16.738 --> 00:20:21.238 It's more just like, it's my reasoning for myself why I don't do it more. 00:20:21.498 --> 00:20:25.338 But when people reach out to me, it makes me feel good. 00:20:25.518 --> 00:20:28.518 I love when people reach out to me and just send me a message unprompted. 00:20:28.798 --> 00:20:39.658 And I don't, I don't know, maybe it just stems from like having anxiety, but like, I remember having the anxiety of like messaging people is annoying them. 00:20:40.038 --> 00:20:41.878 Messaging people is bugging them. 00:20:42.218 --> 00:20:45.898 And it's like, they can just not look at it if they don't want. 00:20:46.098 --> 00:20:49.058 And so, like, I know people still feel this. 00:20:49.398 --> 00:20:59.198 I even talked to my partner, but this has been an active part of our relationship about how communication isn't bugging because of previous experiences. 00:20:59.318 --> 00:21:00.458 And I used to feel this too. 00:21:00.818 --> 00:21:02.258 I want people to reach out more. 00:21:02.318 --> 00:21:10.098 I want to reach out more and just send a message, even if there's no goal to the message, even if it's just like, sup. 00:21:10.398 --> 00:21:10.798 Yeah. 00:21:11.178 --> 00:21:13.758 And then not having the expectation, like, you have to answer. 00:21:13.778 --> 00:21:16.078 Just being like, here's a hook. 00:21:16.258 --> 00:21:17.238 Do you want to take it? 00:21:17.378 --> 00:21:19.238 You don't gotta, but it's there for you. 00:21:20.458 --> 00:21:21.258 This is good. 00:21:21.498 --> 00:21:23.518 This is a wholesome craving. 00:21:23.618 --> 00:21:24.998 I'm gonna be honest. 00:21:25.018 --> 00:21:26.938 I'm bad at this on both sides of it. 00:21:28.138 --> 00:21:36.938 Well, maybe, hey, Brianna, it'd be a great solution to the craving if maybe we could like, talk through this more than, huh? 00:21:36.958 --> 00:21:43.258 Because I feel like I've mostly resolved the feeling of like, I don't feel like I'm bugging people. 00:21:43.318 --> 00:21:49.498 I don't feel like, if I think I should message this person, I do it as soon as I have time. 00:21:49.698 --> 00:21:51.838 Sometimes it's like, I should message this person. 00:21:51.858 --> 00:21:56.958 And then because of my memory, my terrible memory, it's like, I should message this person. 00:21:56.978 --> 00:22:01.398 And then 10 minutes later, I have my phone, and I'm like, what was that thing I was supposed to do? 00:22:01.418 --> 00:22:02.398 I don't know. 00:22:02.558 --> 00:22:03.438 And then it doesn't happen. 00:22:03.458 --> 00:22:05.718 And then I'll remember the next day, and then I won't do it. 00:22:05.738 --> 00:22:15.998 And this is my problem, is remembering to do it, because I usually think about it when I'm in the shower, or when I'm waking up, or when I'm having breakfast. 00:22:16.018 --> 00:22:27.178 And I make a thing about, I don't touch my phone in the morning until right before work, and just to check a couple messages, and then just like, I don't touch my phone again until after work, mostly. 00:22:27.198 --> 00:22:29.378 Sometimes I break my rules. 00:22:29.778 --> 00:22:31.578 Yeah, you know, sometimes you gotta break your rules. 00:22:32.198 --> 00:22:41.778 I feel like the thing for me is I just, a thing that I have kind of come to recently realize is that texting is just not my particular type of communication. 00:22:41.798 --> 00:22:51.538 I can text and enjoy it a little bit, but it like ends up stressing me out, because I'm very much am the way of like, oh god, a text came in, I have to respond to it. 00:22:53.058 --> 00:22:55.238 Oh, that's such a bad mind frame. 00:22:55.318 --> 00:23:01.738 I don't mean to put you on the spot, but this is a thing in our culture. 00:23:01.858 --> 00:23:05.678 Let me try and like say the thing that helped me unlearn this. 00:23:06.158 --> 00:23:14.998 Even like 10 years ago, 10 years ago, maybe 15 years ago, this culture didn't really exist, because if I wanted to reach out to you, I sent you an email. 00:23:15.278 --> 00:23:15.618 Yeah. 00:23:16.298 --> 00:23:18.238 You don't respond to emails right away, right? 00:23:18.258 --> 00:23:19.118 Yeah, no. 00:23:19.258 --> 00:23:22.878 You can let an email sit in a while, and that's not a big deal. 00:23:23.538 --> 00:23:29.378 Yeah, except then if someone sends a follow-up email, because I've let it sit there too long, my brain melts. 00:23:30.178 --> 00:23:37.678 Usually, if someone sends a follow-up email, what you can do is be like, a message received, I'll look into this, and then they won't send another email. 00:23:37.978 --> 00:23:47.978 Maybe this is just like, as a developer that is now working with teams a lot more, communication is like, you have to develop your communication skills in order to work as a team. 00:23:48.698 --> 00:23:52.298 And also in my personal life, I've been working on my communication skills. 00:23:52.458 --> 00:24:03.858 You know this Brianna, for the past forever, but very deeply into the discourse of how communication is done the past two or three years. 00:24:04.278 --> 00:24:08.838 And really working on myself because of things in my personal life. 00:24:09.138 --> 00:24:11.158 Mood, mood, absolutely agree. 00:24:11.838 --> 00:24:14.038 Really, I have opinions about communication. 00:24:14.078 --> 00:24:18.698 And one of the things is, I hate the concept of quote unquote being left unread. 00:24:20.398 --> 00:24:24.458 Because what it implies is you're not allowed to read somebody's message until you reply to them. 00:24:24.778 --> 00:24:26.158 And I think that's so silly. 00:24:26.498 --> 00:24:30.598 I think it's like, I don't even know what I'm gonna say to you until I read your message. 00:24:30.898 --> 00:24:36.158 And that's one of the best parts about textual communication is I can sit on that for a while. 00:24:36.338 --> 00:24:39.258 I can read your message, and then I can think about it. 00:24:39.358 --> 00:24:40.478 And then I can respond. 00:24:40.858 --> 00:24:48.658 Verbal communication is great because you can respond so quickly, but text communication is so great because you can sit on an idea. 00:24:48.778 --> 00:24:55.298 When you take away the feeling of you can sit on this, that's when textual communication becomes, I don't like this. 00:24:55.458 --> 00:25:01.318 Because I also, for a very long time, in high school, I was the person who would send paragraph texts. 00:25:01.358 --> 00:25:10.958 I have this memory of when you meet a new person and we would send one message to each other a day, and it would be a book length. 00:25:10.978 --> 00:25:13.418 It was so long, but it would take a whole day. 00:25:13.638 --> 00:25:15.118 And you had to find the time. 00:25:15.418 --> 00:25:21.658 And genuinely, at one point, it got unsustainable, where it's like, all right, we're just gonna no more long messages. 00:25:22.058 --> 00:25:22.838 And it just broke. 00:25:22.858 --> 00:25:31.398 But for a very long time, our messages just slowly got larger and larger and larger and took more and more time, and we understood that. 00:25:31.598 --> 00:25:36.138 And then somewhere along the line, it was like, messaging is for making plans only. 00:25:36.398 --> 00:25:37.518 That was how I thought of it. 00:25:37.778 --> 00:25:41.478 And now it's like, messaging is for communicating however I want. 00:25:41.758 --> 00:25:44.178 I think for me, it has always been... 00:25:44.678 --> 00:25:57.238 So in high school, mine was kind of the other thing where it was just me and another person going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth all day, just wake up till go to sleep, which was very stressful for me. 00:25:57.858 --> 00:25:58.418 Oh, God. 00:25:58.418 --> 00:26:03.638 But well, it is very stressful for me these days if I have that sort of text communication relationship. 00:26:03.918 --> 00:26:06.078 But at the time, I thought it was good. 00:26:06.518 --> 00:26:06.938 I don't... 00:26:07.358 --> 00:26:08.578 It doesn't work for me anymore. 00:26:09.018 --> 00:26:17.938 But the thing that I find now is sitting on an idea, sitting on a text that you haven't responded to has two things that come up for me. 00:26:18.178 --> 00:26:20.338 They're the two possible options. 00:26:20.738 --> 00:26:22.778 One is I didn't forget about the message. 00:26:23.018 --> 00:26:23.998 Two things happen. 00:26:24.618 --> 00:26:26.898 Either one or another thing happens. 00:26:26.918 --> 00:26:27.758 You get to choose. 00:26:28.158 --> 00:26:32.438 You can either choose to press on in a risky position or... 00:26:33.798 --> 00:26:34.258 Shut. 00:26:36.638 --> 00:26:48.058 And the first one is you could forget, you could not forget that the message exists and therefore, it is just in your head the entire time that you're trying to work on something else and you're like, oh God, I have to respond to the message. 00:26:48.138 --> 00:26:48.698 Oh God, I have to... 00:26:48.978 --> 00:26:52.318 Or not even, but like, oh, that's a thing that I have to do later is respond to that message. 00:26:52.618 --> 00:26:55.198 That's the thing that one, at some point, I will have to do. 00:26:55.998 --> 00:26:57.518 Ah, scream, scream. 00:26:57.818 --> 00:27:00.618 The other option is you completely fucking forget about it. 00:27:01.118 --> 00:27:06.418 It's like, it's just out of your brain completely because my memory is also bad. 00:27:06.718 --> 00:27:08.698 And neither of those options are great. 00:27:08.698 --> 00:27:11.878 And both of them, yeah, both of them definitely can come up. 00:27:12.318 --> 00:27:18.298 And so that is why I find that like text communication, like I love to video chat people when it works. 00:27:18.298 --> 00:27:19.958 I love to hang out with people. 00:27:20.458 --> 00:27:22.398 I like to communicate and stuff. 00:27:22.678 --> 00:27:27.938 I just, whenever I try to text communicate, I'm like, ah, this is the most stressful thing I've ever experienced in my life. 00:27:28.098 --> 00:27:30.038 That's why I said I like talking to this person. 00:27:30.058 --> 00:27:31.518 I appreciate this person. 00:27:31.558 --> 00:27:42.578 And that's why I tend to find that like, I can have little tiny conversations here and there, but like more substantial text conversations, like truly exhaust and drain me. 00:27:44.018 --> 00:27:46.798 So sometimes I forget a conversation too. 00:27:47.058 --> 00:27:49.178 And I feel like that's fine personally. 00:27:49.878 --> 00:27:50.258 I don't know. 00:27:50.278 --> 00:27:51.358 I just think that it's fine. 00:27:51.378 --> 00:27:55.458 The expectation that like, like if you want an answer, follow up. 00:27:55.718 --> 00:27:58.498 Just send a follow up email, send a follow up message. 00:27:58.898 --> 00:28:00.278 Like that's fine. 00:28:00.698 --> 00:28:02.618 Logically, I think that makes sense. 00:28:02.698 --> 00:28:16.078 But the feeling is I am the worst, most insensitive, unthinking fool in the entire world who has betrayed not only myself, but my friends' respect for me and care about me. 00:28:16.098 --> 00:28:18.158 I am a disaster of a being. 00:28:18.398 --> 00:28:21.398 This is coming back into like something. 00:28:21.418 --> 00:28:24.218 This is the IRC conversation we had yesterday. 00:28:24.258 --> 00:28:25.158 Exactly. 00:28:25.498 --> 00:28:26.838 The last episode. 00:28:26.858 --> 00:28:29.338 This is the way that I think my brain works. 00:28:29.758 --> 00:28:36.038 I want to communicate with people and then stop communicating with people and then go back to communicating with people. 00:28:36.498 --> 00:28:39.278 You expect people to dislike you from the jump. 00:28:39.398 --> 00:28:49.838 Your assumption is that people are going to dislike you and you have to make them like you rather than people have no feelings towards you until you put yourself out there. 00:28:50.118 --> 00:28:53.218 Right, but like, yes, you're absolutely correct. 00:28:53.278 --> 00:28:54.198 That is the thing. 00:28:54.398 --> 00:28:56.038 That is the theme of my life. 00:28:56.058 --> 00:28:57.478 That is the way that my life works. 00:28:57.718 --> 00:29:02.878 I literally was having a conversation earlier today about how this, you know what? 00:29:02.898 --> 00:29:03.958 We'll get into that later. 00:29:04.378 --> 00:29:06.018 That's related to my last craving. 00:29:06.238 --> 00:29:07.038 We'll get into that. 00:29:07.338 --> 00:29:08.998 But no, this is totally a thing. 00:29:09.018 --> 00:29:12.578 It's like, to me, a text conversation is a test. 00:29:12.918 --> 00:29:17.358 It is a test of whether or not you are a good enough person and a good enough friend. 00:29:17.678 --> 00:29:19.898 I don't consider it that from other people. 00:29:20.238 --> 00:29:28.858 I don't super, if someone forgets to respond or doesn't respond for time, the most that I will feel is like a moment of annoyance and then it passes. 00:29:29.198 --> 00:29:33.178 But my brain does not give me the same courtesy. 00:29:33.618 --> 00:29:35.098 And so reaching out is hard. 00:29:35.118 --> 00:29:37.578 And so, Clair, how do we make this easier? 00:29:37.598 --> 00:29:38.978 I don't know how I solved this. 00:29:38.998 --> 00:29:44.778 I like the thing is, I get where you're coming from because I was exactly where you were three years ago. 00:29:44.798 --> 00:29:46.438 Exactly, like, I got no- 00:29:46.458 --> 00:29:49.118 Clair, you are sounding a little bit like an inspirational speaker. 00:29:49.138 --> 00:29:51.178 I'm so sorry, I hate that. 00:29:51.798 --> 00:29:54.638 I hate that, I hate that you just said that because it's true. 00:29:54.658 --> 00:29:56.118 No, you're right. 00:29:56.178 --> 00:30:04.318 And like, it's because you're also doing hand movements, which I don't think the audience can see, but you are doing hand movements, like you are giving the speech to an assembly in a high school. 00:30:05.098 --> 00:30:07.998 I was where you were three years ago. 00:30:08.018 --> 00:30:12.118 I sat right where you are now. 00:30:15.338 --> 00:30:17.978 You points at the general audience member. 00:30:19.958 --> 00:30:23.078 You, I'm pointing at one of the listeners right now. 00:30:23.098 --> 00:30:25.298 I'm pointing at you, the one listening. 00:30:25.318 --> 00:30:31.058 The only person listening right now. 00:30:32.178 --> 00:30:33.218 But I think that you're right. 00:30:33.218 --> 00:30:42.998 Like this is, I think it's totally understandable for you to be like, oh yeah, I was in this place and I have found ways to like cope with this feeling or move past this feeling. 00:30:43.418 --> 00:30:45.838 Yeah, and I am in no way a motivational speaker. 00:30:45.838 --> 00:30:50.798 I am in no way a life coach or whatever the hell they do. 00:30:51.198 --> 00:30:55.218 It's just like, at one point, I realized I deserve better. 00:30:55.898 --> 00:30:58.938 And that path took me down. 00:30:58.958 --> 00:31:01.598 I treat people the best I can treat them. 00:31:01.818 --> 00:31:04.158 And I expect people to treat me the best they can. 00:31:04.458 --> 00:31:10.358 And sometimes me or the other person messes up, and I expect us to be able to hold ourselves accountable. 00:31:10.678 --> 00:31:18.478 And I expect us to make space for mess ups, but also be able to call each other out on them. 00:31:18.798 --> 00:31:21.018 Trust is really the thing. 00:31:21.558 --> 00:31:24.458 Yeah, no, I think that that's rad. 00:31:25.258 --> 00:31:27.238 Also, how neurotypical of you, Clair. 00:31:28.158 --> 00:31:29.338 I know, I know. 00:31:29.478 --> 00:31:33.838 I'm definitely neurotypical, uh-huh, uh-huh. 00:31:34.738 --> 00:31:43.498 I don't know that there's a way to transfer that knowledge from you to me, except for the ways that we have totally talked about before of just transferring knowledge. 00:31:43.698 --> 00:31:46.798 Yeah, we need to just get our craving solution. 00:31:47.138 --> 00:31:52.938 Yeah, usually some sort of ingestible method is typically how we go about it. 00:31:53.198 --> 00:31:53.818 What was it? 00:31:56.738 --> 00:31:58.678 Was it gum that it was like, here's my brain gum? 00:31:59.478 --> 00:32:00.538 Yeah, something like that. 00:32:00.558 --> 00:32:02.198 That sounds like something we do. 00:32:02.538 --> 00:32:04.358 Sure, this sounds like some bullshit we come up with. 00:32:06.238 --> 00:32:09.978 There is a way where we could just fix the culture and our brains. 00:32:12.218 --> 00:32:13.298 So we just do that. 00:32:13.358 --> 00:32:15.298 And there we go, craving fucking salt. 00:32:15.318 --> 00:32:17.038 Sorry, wait, what is the salute? 00:32:17.058 --> 00:32:18.658 I feel like you just skipped over. 00:32:18.678 --> 00:32:22.238 I feel like I blinked and you were just like, we'll just fix society. 00:32:22.238 --> 00:32:23.778 And then you didn't give me how. 00:32:23.978 --> 00:32:26.038 And it was just like, we'll just fix society. 00:32:26.358 --> 00:32:26.818 Great. 00:32:26.978 --> 00:32:27.958 This is a good craving. 00:32:27.978 --> 00:32:32.238 Well, no, Clair, as we all know, we live in a society. 00:32:32.658 --> 00:32:37.758 And if we can say we live in a society, then we can also say we can fix society. 00:32:37.778 --> 00:32:40.078 And that's why I'm running for president in 2020. 00:32:43.358 --> 00:32:45.518 Look, this is the price of leadership. 00:32:46.478 --> 00:32:48.438 I've already got the slogan for you. 00:32:48.458 --> 00:32:50.718 Oh, it's so perfect. 00:32:51.018 --> 00:32:56.638 Oh, yeah, no, I totally definitely want to be in some sort of leadership position in a government. 00:32:56.658 --> 00:33:00.278 Look, Brianna, when I think politician, I definitely think you. 00:33:01.438 --> 00:33:02.358 Thanks, Clair. 00:33:02.378 --> 00:33:05.518 That's what comes to my mind when I think politician lately. 00:33:05.538 --> 00:33:14.918 I think my best quality as a politician is the way that the perception that people don't like me even a little bit gives me full blown panic attacks. 00:33:15.138 --> 00:33:20.518 That's my favorite quality that I have that is fitting of a politician. 00:33:20.518 --> 00:33:21.378 Uh-huh, yeah. 00:33:23.478 --> 00:33:26.218 I mean, it would be such a unique quality, right? 00:33:26.578 --> 00:33:27.738 As a politician? 00:33:27.758 --> 00:33:29.798 What if, yeah, it would, it would. 00:33:30.718 --> 00:33:31.318 I have an idea. 00:33:31.338 --> 00:33:33.378 I've just figured out an idea. 00:33:33.838 --> 00:33:37.638 What if we make an emoji that just says, I don't hate you? 00:33:41.418 --> 00:33:44.638 Is that the, is that like the bottom emoji? 00:33:44.958 --> 00:33:50.378 What is the name for that emoji where it looks like someone like asking for spankies? 00:33:53.238 --> 00:33:55.358 You know the emoji I'm talking about? 00:33:55.378 --> 00:33:58.918 It's like the doe eyes looking up. 00:33:58.938 --> 00:34:00.258 Yeah, that one. 00:34:00.258 --> 00:34:01.778 I don't know what it's called. 00:34:02.578 --> 00:34:04.178 It just looks like the bottom emoji. 00:34:04.198 --> 00:34:05.798 Yeah, it's the bottom emoji. 00:34:06.238 --> 00:34:07.598 Spankies, please. 00:34:07.618 --> 00:34:08.278 That's that emoji. 00:34:11.758 --> 00:34:16.238 This can be the anxiety emoji, and it just is in fun, cool font. 00:34:16.258 --> 00:34:18.058 It just says, I don't hate you. 00:34:18.078 --> 00:34:18.998 Don't worry. 00:34:19.458 --> 00:34:21.518 You can respond to this whenever you need to. 00:34:21.838 --> 00:34:22.918 It's totally fine. 00:34:23.318 --> 00:34:24.778 Maybe it's just more emojis. 00:34:24.798 --> 00:34:26.378 I use a lot of emojis. 00:34:26.398 --> 00:34:29.178 I said I used emoticons last time. 00:34:29.398 --> 00:34:30.338 That just might be it. 00:34:30.358 --> 00:34:31.478 I don't use that many emojis. 00:34:31.498 --> 00:34:32.538 You use a lot of emojis. 00:34:32.558 --> 00:34:33.698 You're comfortable with texting. 00:34:33.958 --> 00:34:38.038 I'm not so comfortable with texting, so I think that makes sense. 00:34:38.578 --> 00:34:41.118 Maybe you just need to text more. 00:34:41.418 --> 00:34:44.518 Hey, Brianna, maybe you need to dive in neck first. 00:34:44.918 --> 00:34:45.798 I'll just use more emojis. 00:34:45.818 --> 00:34:46.338 Not head first. 00:34:46.538 --> 00:34:48.698 Yeah, I'll just use more emojis, and that'll fix it. 00:34:48.798 --> 00:34:51.538 That'll fix all your life problems is more emojis. 00:34:52.218 --> 00:34:57.838 Maybe you should start a podcast about emojis, and you can call it Emoji. 00:34:57.858 --> 00:34:59.998 And it would drive itself. 00:35:04.998 --> 00:35:07.858 That would be a great podcast idea. 00:35:07.878 --> 00:35:11.738 I'm glad no one has taken that podcast idea yet. 00:35:11.998 --> 00:35:15.638 It'd be very interesting to have a trans woman do that podcast idea. 00:35:15.658 --> 00:35:17.278 What a unique perspective. 00:35:18.978 --> 00:35:20.598 Shout out to Emojidrome. 00:35:25.818 --> 00:35:27.438 That feels like it solved it, right? 00:35:27.458 --> 00:35:28.058 I feel like it. 00:35:28.058 --> 00:35:32.658 I feel like maybe if it didn't solve it for you, it solved it for me. 00:35:32.978 --> 00:35:36.758 And maybe there's someone that has gone, fuck you, Clair. 00:35:37.258 --> 00:35:39.098 I didn't sign up for Life Advice. 00:35:39.118 --> 00:35:42.498 And then someone else went, hmm, interesting concept. 00:35:42.518 --> 00:35:47.598 I'm going to ruminate on this until I feel anxiety or something, and then maybe less anxiety. 00:35:47.778 --> 00:35:48.278 Who knows? 00:35:48.858 --> 00:35:51.878 So basically the experience of watching a motivational speaker. 00:35:55.318 --> 00:35:57.958 Where do I get my motivational speaker plaque? 00:35:57.978 --> 00:36:00.038 Do I go to the like, which office is it? 00:36:00.058 --> 00:36:00.718 Which board room? 00:36:00.738 --> 00:36:02.518 I think you have to go to a high school gym. 00:36:05.178 --> 00:36:06.318 Okay, great. 00:36:06.698 --> 00:36:10.538 Do you want to give me your hot take that you had served? 00:36:12.318 --> 00:36:16.098 So, Clair, I think this craving is pretty simple. 00:36:16.798 --> 00:36:19.038 How do you know when something you make is good? 00:36:19.058 --> 00:36:22.398 Hey, Clair. 00:36:22.418 --> 00:36:26.098 Hey, Clair, I want to just be able to know that. 00:36:26.118 --> 00:36:30.058 I just want to be able to know it before I show it to anyone else. 00:36:30.658 --> 00:36:33.318 I just want it to be perfect before anyone else sees it. 00:36:33.398 --> 00:36:34.138 Oh, my God. 00:36:34.238 --> 00:36:42.098 Okay, so I just want to say, the first thing that came to my mind was a line from Portrait of a Lady on Fire. 00:36:42.438 --> 00:36:44.938 The line goes, how do you know when it's done? 00:36:45.718 --> 00:36:46.918 At some point, you stop. 00:36:47.578 --> 00:36:52.798 That also makes me think of a line from the half of it, which is what's the... 00:36:53.118 --> 00:36:56.698 It's about what's the difference between a good painting and a great painting. 00:36:56.718 --> 00:36:58.278 They say it's just five strokes. 00:36:59.238 --> 00:36:59.998 Uh-huh. 00:37:00.038 --> 00:37:01.958 How do you know if something is good? 00:37:01.958 --> 00:37:03.478 You show people, I guess. 00:37:04.458 --> 00:37:06.438 But, Clair, why do you... 00:37:13.438 --> 00:37:16.778 Please, say whatever you're about to say, but I just want to predict. 00:37:16.918 --> 00:37:26.438 You're going to concoct some wild thing where your friend now hates you because you've shown them something you're genuinely interested in. 00:37:26.458 --> 00:37:27.478 Now, please go on. 00:37:27.498 --> 00:37:28.978 Say exactly what you're going to say. 00:37:28.998 --> 00:37:51.458 I'm going to say exactly what I was going to say, which is, what if you show someone something that isn't perfect, and they decide you are evil and cancelled because you made something imperfect, and they hate you now? 00:37:51.478 --> 00:37:53.138 Uh-huh. 00:37:54.218 --> 00:37:55.398 I'm sensing a theme. 00:37:55.418 --> 00:37:58.618 I had a rough day, Clair. 00:38:04.518 --> 00:38:05.378 I'm doing fine. 00:38:06.338 --> 00:38:08.218 This has been on the brain recently. 00:38:09.618 --> 00:38:12.358 You really think you're evil. 00:38:13.118 --> 00:38:13.998 This has come up. 00:38:14.018 --> 00:38:15.258 You really think you're evil. 00:38:15.518 --> 00:38:17.658 You think people will think you're evil. 00:38:18.198 --> 00:38:23.538 I mean, with this one specifically, it's not just, oh no, the thing that I... 00:38:23.778 --> 00:38:32.118 It is partially like, oh God, I don't want to show anyone the thing that I made in case it's somehow problematic in a way that I didn't catch, and it ends up making someone feel bad. 00:38:32.678 --> 00:38:36.198 But there is also the level here of, oh God, what if it isn't good? 00:38:36.518 --> 00:38:50.818 And then I've showed someone something that isn't good, and they understand finally and immediately that I am a fake creator girl who cannot, in fact, create anything good on the first take. 00:38:52.318 --> 00:38:54.698 Well, no one can create anything good on the first take. 00:38:56.678 --> 00:38:57.318 I mean... 00:38:57.418 --> 00:38:59.218 Everyone has their first take. 00:38:59.498 --> 00:39:06.018 Even if someone shows you, like, this is the first thing they did that day, there was one before that. 00:39:06.038 --> 00:39:07.498 There was something before that day. 00:39:07.518 --> 00:39:09.078 You're absolutely right. 00:39:09.378 --> 00:39:10.958 What have you considered, Clair? 00:39:11.578 --> 00:39:13.398 That you have to be immediately good? 00:39:16.618 --> 00:39:19.558 What if someone could and that someone was me, and I could just do it? 00:39:19.698 --> 00:39:20.918 What if I could just do it? 00:39:20.918 --> 00:39:22.178 You'd be revolutionary. 00:39:22.198 --> 00:39:23.938 Yeah, what if I just did it? 00:39:24.358 --> 00:39:25.258 That'd be amazing. 00:39:25.278 --> 00:39:27.258 You'd get documentaries made about you. 00:39:27.278 --> 00:39:29.018 You'd have a million-dollar record deal. 00:39:29.038 --> 00:39:29.498 I don't know. 00:39:30.518 --> 00:39:31.898 I don't think you're going to get that. 00:39:31.938 --> 00:39:33.678 I'd have a record deal for some reason. 00:39:33.698 --> 00:39:36.838 I write things, but they just say, do you want to be on some songs? 00:39:37.178 --> 00:39:40.338 And then I nail it because I'm perfect in everything the first take. 00:39:40.478 --> 00:39:42.238 Yeah, this is what I'm saying. 00:39:42.258 --> 00:39:45.238 I feel like this is the expectation. 00:39:45.838 --> 00:39:49.538 You write something really good, and now you're just going to get a record deal. 00:39:49.558 --> 00:39:50.778 That's half a joke, right? 00:39:50.818 --> 00:39:53.298 Because that feels like the expectation. 00:39:53.678 --> 00:39:54.598 This is the thing. 00:39:54.618 --> 00:39:56.698 I know that it's a ridiculous thing. 00:39:56.758 --> 00:39:58.578 I obviously know that it's a ridiculous thing. 00:39:58.738 --> 00:40:04.598 There's still the feeling where I don't want to show someone something and say, hey, do you have any criticism for them to have an answer? 00:40:05.538 --> 00:40:07.018 How embarrassing would that be? 00:40:07.118 --> 00:40:08.198 I love criticism. 00:40:08.498 --> 00:40:15.738 No, I love criticism, but the idea of reaching out and being like, hey, could you criticize this? 00:40:16.298 --> 00:40:19.998 Is terrifying because you never know what the criticism is going to be. 00:40:20.378 --> 00:40:21.498 What if the criticism is... 00:40:22.438 --> 00:40:24.018 Please don't say you're evil. 00:40:24.198 --> 00:40:29.918 What if the actual thing is, what if the criticism is, you should abandon this project? 00:40:29.938 --> 00:40:31.978 I think the follow up to that is why. 00:40:32.278 --> 00:40:32.878 Super fair. 00:40:34.398 --> 00:40:40.018 If I'm asking for criticism and someone says a blanket statement, my response is, interesting. 00:40:40.258 --> 00:40:40.578 Why? 00:40:40.598 --> 00:40:42.278 I want to know. 00:40:42.618 --> 00:40:48.998 And I guess, again, this is just a communication thing of, be precise with your communication, right? 00:40:49.358 --> 00:40:51.358 Especially if you're critiquing something. 00:40:51.678 --> 00:40:57.198 Again, as a developer, what I do is get criticism on the code I write. 00:40:57.418 --> 00:40:59.318 That is my literal, everyday job. 00:40:59.658 --> 00:41:00.798 And it sucks sometimes. 00:41:01.358 --> 00:41:02.978 I mean, it depends who's giving criticism. 00:41:03.118 --> 00:41:04.898 Some people can't give criticism well. 00:41:05.138 --> 00:41:06.178 Some people can. 00:41:06.678 --> 00:41:08.638 The thing is, people are different. 00:41:09.058 --> 00:41:12.318 And you're going to have people you go to. 00:41:12.658 --> 00:41:15.118 For what it's worth, I've also done this. 00:41:15.238 --> 00:41:16.358 I did an English degree. 00:41:16.978 --> 00:41:18.798 Yeah, you're good at this. 00:41:18.818 --> 00:41:19.958 What are you talking about? 00:41:20.078 --> 00:41:32.818 Well, to clarify, in English classes, one of the things that often is done is a writing seminar thing where in one person prints out copies of their essay for everyone. 00:41:34.038 --> 00:41:42.378 And people go over their essay and then you go around the room and everyone critiques your essay, which sounds terrifying. 00:41:43.818 --> 00:41:47.538 Yeah, so it is like you say, you're not supposed to say anything. 00:41:47.558 --> 00:41:48.758 Here's the structure of how it goes. 00:41:48.838 --> 00:41:50.338 Is everyone supposed to read it the night before? 00:41:50.638 --> 00:41:56.678 Then you read it out to everyone, kind of make notes along the way where the flow doesn't super work, right? 00:41:56.698 --> 00:41:58.658 Because saying it out loud helps with that. 00:41:58.698 --> 00:42:04.898 And then one by one, everyone in the class will say, here's what I thought of this essay, here's some things that I think could be improved with it. 00:42:05.078 --> 00:42:09.998 And usually by the end, someone's like, yeah, what that first person said, what this person said, basically just that. 00:42:10.658 --> 00:42:12.478 That sounds awful. 00:42:12.798 --> 00:42:13.118 What? 00:42:13.258 --> 00:42:14.138 That sounds awful. 00:42:14.558 --> 00:42:17.498 On one level, it is awful. 00:42:17.818 --> 00:42:19.838 On another level, it's incredibly useful. 00:42:19.858 --> 00:42:27.078 I don't know that it is the best way to go about it, but it's very useful to have 15 people tell you what they think. 00:42:28.058 --> 00:42:29.318 This is in small classes. 00:42:29.338 --> 00:42:30.138 This is for smaller classes. 00:42:30.158 --> 00:42:31.718 Because I've actually done this. 00:42:32.158 --> 00:42:33.638 I went to you, first off. 00:42:33.718 --> 00:42:40.318 I took a creative writing for young adults and children, and one of the first people I would turn to is you, because you're a great writer. 00:42:42.118 --> 00:42:46.758 And then in class, what we would do is we'd have groups of four. 00:42:47.078 --> 00:42:52.118 And one by one, we have, I think it was 10 minutes or something per story, maybe even less time. 00:42:52.578 --> 00:42:53.638 One person would read. 00:42:53.858 --> 00:42:56.978 You could read your own, or you could get someone else to read it. 00:42:57.258 --> 00:43:05.578 And that was really useful, because I'd always ask someone else to read mine, because I want to know how they read it, because that gives me more feedback than if I read it. 00:43:05.598 --> 00:43:06.638 That sounds way better. 00:43:06.898 --> 00:43:07.998 It was super useful. 00:43:09.178 --> 00:43:12.338 Genuinely, people would stumble on a thing, and I was like, that's not good enough. 00:43:12.498 --> 00:43:13.778 I want that to flow. 00:43:13.998 --> 00:43:17.978 I want that to come so naturally that you don't have to think twice about that. 00:43:18.538 --> 00:43:21.058 Or even if it didn't sound right. 00:43:21.318 --> 00:43:25.418 I always ask someone to read mine, and I would always offer to read someone else's, always. 00:43:25.438 --> 00:43:26.738 And it was always the same for people. 00:43:26.758 --> 00:43:31.358 So by the end of the semester, you knew who these people were, sort of. 00:43:31.498 --> 00:43:35.438 And that was really useful, because A, it's only three or four other people. 00:43:35.758 --> 00:43:40.958 So you're not getting the entire class's feedback, which is helpful. 00:43:41.118 --> 00:43:43.498 I was like, oh, you're gonna get 100 people's feedback? 00:43:43.518 --> 00:43:48.578 That sounds terrifying, but I guess you have 100 perspectives, which I guess is useful. 00:43:48.598 --> 00:43:54.018 But if it's 15, I don't know, four versus 15, it's not worth the being put on the spot for me. 00:43:54.218 --> 00:43:55.118 That's my opinion. 00:43:55.138 --> 00:43:59.458 But I think that class is how it should be done, right? 00:43:59.478 --> 00:44:01.938 Small groups read each other the work. 00:44:02.638 --> 00:44:08.278 And this is coming from someone who has absolutely no practice in writing whatsoever. 00:44:08.298 --> 00:44:09.778 So don't listen to me at all. 00:44:10.018 --> 00:44:13.698 To me, what works best really depends on the class and depends on who's in the class. 00:44:13.838 --> 00:44:14.498 And the writer. 00:44:14.518 --> 00:44:15.458 Yeah, and the writer. 00:44:16.138 --> 00:44:30.158 Unsurprisingly, there is no one way to do this perfectly, which is a problem, because that is essentially what I'm asking to solve with this craving is I simply want the way to do it perfect where I don't have to risk anything. 00:44:30.638 --> 00:44:45.898 See, Clair, I would like to create interesting, good and powerful content without having to take any risks or make any choices that could, in some way, cause any sort of strife or potential for harm. 00:44:45.918 --> 00:44:47.258 Unless you want to cause strife. 00:44:47.698 --> 00:44:49.598 Yes, unless I wish to cause strife. 00:44:50.798 --> 00:44:52.418 So what about robots? 00:44:52.458 --> 00:44:54.158 I'm just saying, I don't want to go to robots. 00:44:54.418 --> 00:44:58.658 I think the solution to this craving isn't a unified method of solving this. 00:44:58.718 --> 00:45:03.978 I think this is finding your method of getting feedback. 00:45:04.398 --> 00:45:10.158 And I'll just say, if texting and reaching out doesn't work, what about this? 00:45:10.698 --> 00:45:13.258 Let's try this one time, but here's my suggestion. 00:45:13.378 --> 00:45:15.978 Read me something you've written one time on a video chat. 00:45:16.178 --> 00:45:17.378 Or I'll read you it. 00:45:17.918 --> 00:45:18.418 I see. 00:45:18.598 --> 00:45:26.538 We'll do exactly what the class did, but with social distancing and also like, it's less work because traveling and whatnot, then you can hear it. 00:45:26.918 --> 00:45:27.698 That's a good idea. 00:45:27.918 --> 00:45:28.178 Maybe. 00:45:28.198 --> 00:45:28.898 I like this idea. 00:45:29.418 --> 00:45:32.358 Yeah, this seems like a good idea. 00:45:32.378 --> 00:45:38.518 And honestly, like asking friends for feedback and in general, like that is the course of action that I would take. 00:45:38.778 --> 00:45:44.518 I'm just being a little bit of a weenie about it and wanting to do it without having to. 00:45:44.718 --> 00:45:45.578 And what I want to do is I'm like- 00:45:45.598 --> 00:45:46.678 You don't want consequences. 00:45:47.038 --> 00:45:47.858 I don't want consequences. 00:45:47.878 --> 00:45:49.738 I also don't want to inconvenience anyone. 00:45:49.998 --> 00:45:50.818 I also am like- 00:45:51.378 --> 00:45:53.138 This is what I'm talking about. 00:45:53.398 --> 00:45:53.698 Right? 00:45:53.718 --> 00:45:59.098 This is the thing is I am the most, like, collaboration is a positive thing. 00:45:59.558 --> 00:46:05.178 And like, it's all about working together and like working on each other's things as opposed to working on your own. 00:46:05.458 --> 00:46:10.038 And I am also the person who is like, if I have to like, you know- 00:46:10.058 --> 00:46:11.658 If you have to exist near somebody. 00:46:12.078 --> 00:46:12.398 Right. 00:46:12.398 --> 00:46:18.458 If anyone else is at all inconvenienced by the fact that I've made a thing, that's not okay. 00:46:18.778 --> 00:46:19.178 Good. 00:46:19.498 --> 00:46:21.678 I guess the solution is practice what you preach. 00:46:22.618 --> 00:46:24.638 I think the solution is practice what I preach. 00:46:25.158 --> 00:46:28.038 Thank you for the Brianna therapy episode of Salt Cravings. 00:46:30.078 --> 00:46:31.718 I've been a week between therapists. 00:46:31.778 --> 00:46:32.358 It's been a- 00:46:32.358 --> 00:46:33.258 it's been a time. 00:46:33.498 --> 00:46:37.038 It's like, I'm your mom now, except it's I'm your therapist now. 00:46:37.038 --> 00:46:39.358 And it's just me. 00:46:39.898 --> 00:46:40.598 Clair, do you want to- 00:46:40.618 --> 00:46:41.278 do you want to give us- 00:46:41.538 --> 00:46:43.638 give us your last craving? 00:46:43.998 --> 00:46:47.738 Do you want a fun one, or do you want to continue the therapy session? 00:46:48.778 --> 00:46:50.718 Or I guess, like, a middle ground? 00:46:51.098 --> 00:46:53.298 I don't want to continue my therapy session, but if you want to- 00:46:53.318 --> 00:46:55.298 if we want to start one for you, I'm down with that. 00:46:55.738 --> 00:47:09.278 This is the episode of Salt Cravings in which Brianna and Clair hot off the presses of talking about gender theory at the end of last episode just really get into our feelings and get into our thought processes and just- 00:47:09.338 --> 00:47:10.778 just really talk about it. 00:47:10.778 --> 00:47:13.178 And the jokes are incidental at best. 00:47:13.618 --> 00:47:18.138 I feel like friends just talking and making jokes together is good comedy in my opinion. 00:47:18.378 --> 00:47:20.918 But maybe that's my opinion because I'm one of the two friends. 00:47:21.698 --> 00:47:25.138 I agree with you though, as the other of the two friends. 00:47:25.418 --> 00:47:30.058 Well, seeing as we are the two friends who own this podcast, we get to decide that. 00:47:30.078 --> 00:47:35.218 So my second craving, you can maybe therapize me in a second. 00:47:35.358 --> 00:47:37.358 I didn't think of this as a deep craving. 00:47:37.838 --> 00:47:38.598 First dates. 00:47:39.218 --> 00:47:40.798 I love first dates. 00:47:41.878 --> 00:47:44.598 And there's something about first dates that just like- 00:47:44.758 --> 00:47:59.418 I mean, I can tell you what it is about first dates is the excitement as it's known in non-monogamous spaces, NRE or new relationship energy, I feel like applies to new people and new friendships as well as romantic things. 00:47:59.438 --> 00:48:06.158 And I think it's very exciting to meet a person and be like, what does this person think? 00:48:06.378 --> 00:48:09.558 I can ask any question and I don't know the answer to it. 00:48:09.898 --> 00:48:16.778 Brianna, I've just demonstrated that I can pretty much like predict what you're about to say. 00:48:18.118 --> 00:48:19.898 We know each other very well. 00:48:20.698 --> 00:48:21.318 I love that. 00:48:21.338 --> 00:48:22.378 I love our friendship. 00:48:22.718 --> 00:48:23.278 Me too. 00:48:23.298 --> 00:48:25.218 But like, I love both. 00:48:25.798 --> 00:48:34.918 I think there's room to like, I like both knowing someone very deeply and also having no clue who someone is and getting to know them. 00:48:35.158 --> 00:48:39.978 And so something about a first date is like, we are both here to learn about each other. 00:48:40.138 --> 00:48:46.718 It is that explicit, like we are here because we both want to make an attempt to understand each other. 00:48:46.778 --> 00:48:48.418 At least that's my idea of it. 00:48:48.578 --> 00:48:49.638 I think that's so interesting. 00:48:49.678 --> 00:48:54.798 I feel like I definitely have felt this about like good first dates for sure. 00:48:55.058 --> 00:48:56.718 This is a really interesting craving. 00:48:57.418 --> 00:48:57.778 Yeah. 00:48:57.838 --> 00:49:00.398 Because it's one that I don't necessarily get all that much. 00:49:00.418 --> 00:49:03.738 I mean, I'm in a monogamous relationship now, so like obviously I don't. 00:49:03.898 --> 00:49:11.898 But even when I wasn't, like there's always this thing to me about like first dates where it's like, okay, is this gonna, okay, here we go. 00:49:11.918 --> 00:49:13.098 Is this gonna be good? 00:49:15.298 --> 00:49:19.138 I also understand the excitement, and I think the excitement is a lot of fun. 00:49:19.678 --> 00:49:21.418 It's kind of like stage excitement. 00:49:21.518 --> 00:49:25.798 Like there is a nervousness to it, but it's like, ooh, like, ooh, I'm excited. 00:49:25.818 --> 00:49:27.438 I'm excited, but I'm like nervous. 00:49:27.758 --> 00:49:37.458 Yeah, but there is something very fun about being like, I'm going to engage with a person who I don't know what they're going to say, or I can have ideas of it based on like what I know about them so far. 00:49:37.518 --> 00:49:42.338 But like, I, you know, there's this assignment of being surprised by someone. 00:49:42.358 --> 00:49:53.878 I think like one of the like things that really stood out for me on my like, my first date with my current girlfriend is like, she would tell me jokes that I'd like never heard before and start losing it. 00:49:54.738 --> 00:49:55.878 Oh, that's so wholesome. 00:49:56.238 --> 00:49:56.638 Right? 00:49:56.898 --> 00:49:59.818 Yeah, like that's the thing that's very exciting about those things. 00:50:00.518 --> 00:50:05.998 And also, you get to reveal yourself to a person who's never met you before. 00:50:06.358 --> 00:50:12.558 So you get to tell them the stories that you've told everyone else like five times, but they've never heard them before. 00:50:12.578 --> 00:50:17.958 So it's fresh, all the jokes that like, yeah, uh-huh. 00:50:17.978 --> 00:50:23.298 People don't know about the thing that we referenced at the beginning of this episode. 00:50:23.318 --> 00:50:23.838 They don't. 00:50:24.078 --> 00:50:26.798 They have no clue what we're obsessed with. 00:50:27.718 --> 00:50:29.178 Uh-huh, yeah. 00:50:29.278 --> 00:50:31.438 And so you can share that on a first date. 00:50:31.718 --> 00:50:34.758 Yeah, and there's something so exciting about that. 00:50:35.038 --> 00:50:41.698 Yeah, you made me think about my first date and how I was blown away with one of my current partners. 00:50:41.978 --> 00:50:44.778 I showed up on the date, and I think I've told you this story. 00:50:45.058 --> 00:50:51.558 It's like the first week of school, back to school, university, September, it's hot, it's gross. 00:50:52.018 --> 00:50:57.898 I'm wearing like a hoodie and like jeans, and I am like not like feeling stuff. 00:50:57.958 --> 00:51:00.878 I'm like, okay, I'm doing this because of... 00:51:01.118 --> 00:51:08.238 There were circumstances, things were said months previously, and then a meeting was set up months later because of circumstances. 00:51:08.798 --> 00:51:09.978 Okay, okay, I'll go on this. 00:51:09.998 --> 00:51:10.778 I'm not really like... 00:51:10.818 --> 00:51:12.778 I'm not in the mood for dating right now. 00:51:13.418 --> 00:51:18.698 And I show up, and they're sitting there with a bouquet of flowers on the first date. 00:51:19.178 --> 00:51:19.918 And I'm just like... 00:51:21.078 --> 00:51:22.198 I was blown away. 00:51:22.218 --> 00:51:25.178 And I was like, I messed up, I messed up. 00:51:25.198 --> 00:51:26.438 And I've never forgotten that. 00:51:26.438 --> 00:51:27.758 And you know what? 00:51:28.018 --> 00:51:29.218 They continue to blow me away. 00:51:30.018 --> 00:51:31.638 It's, I believe, three years later. 00:51:31.978 --> 00:51:33.178 And yeah. 00:51:33.418 --> 00:51:34.358 That's so cute. 00:51:34.498 --> 00:51:35.258 And so good. 00:51:35.678 --> 00:51:38.578 Clair, okay. 00:51:38.978 --> 00:51:41.818 I figured out how to solve this craving. 00:51:41.978 --> 00:51:42.798 Oh, I'm so glad. 00:51:42.918 --> 00:51:44.718 Clair, what is the perfect first date? 00:51:46.418 --> 00:51:47.138 Top to bottom. 00:51:47.538 --> 00:51:49.498 The like, well, okay. 00:51:49.818 --> 00:51:52.118 You're just gonna get me talking about my first date. 00:51:52.398 --> 00:51:55.358 I mean, I'm talking like all over, like setting. 00:51:55.478 --> 00:52:06.138 I'm talking about like what is the best, like the perfect first date thing to do, where it should be, the like perfect routine before the first date. 00:52:06.158 --> 00:52:08.078 Like, let's go through it. 00:52:08.118 --> 00:52:10.138 Let's set up the perfect first date. 00:52:11.258 --> 00:52:12.718 I think a lot about firsts. 00:52:13.038 --> 00:52:17.538 That's something about me that like firsts and lasts mean a lot to me. 00:52:17.578 --> 00:52:26.578 I know that's not true for everybody, but I think about firsts and lasts constantly in the most arbitrary ways that people just don't think about, and I've noticed that about myself. 00:52:27.018 --> 00:52:31.278 And so I keep a record of my favorite firsts. 00:52:31.838 --> 00:52:35.198 So I could tell you, I could go into great detail about this. 00:52:35.478 --> 00:52:39.638 And the thing is, I would just be pulling from real examples. 00:52:39.698 --> 00:52:52.518 I don't know how much I want to do that, but I will say I want to go on a first date where I feel confident that I am just fucking killing it with like my outfit and my style choice. 00:52:52.738 --> 00:52:54.858 And I think that's something that I haven't gotten to do yet. 00:52:55.358 --> 00:53:01.818 I've been pretty confident, but I haven't been like, like usually when I'm confident, it's like, oh, this person is killing it even more. 00:53:02.038 --> 00:53:06.938 And it's like, dang, I thought I brought it, but they're here just showing me up. 00:53:07.518 --> 00:53:08.978 And it's like, that's not how it is. 00:53:09.698 --> 00:53:15.618 Yeah, I was going to say, I think, Clair, that might be, oh, I'm attracted to this person. 00:53:16.838 --> 00:53:18.518 I think that's what that might be. 00:53:18.538 --> 00:53:22.358 I think the thing that you're describing is not, oh, no, they've not done me. 00:53:22.658 --> 00:53:25.498 But in fact is, oh, I like this person. 00:53:25.518 --> 00:53:26.218 Uh-huh. 00:53:26.318 --> 00:53:27.518 No, there is that too. 00:53:27.918 --> 00:53:31.578 But I'm always, I always have the feeling of like, oh, I should have tried harder. 00:53:31.998 --> 00:53:33.478 You sound like me. 00:53:33.498 --> 00:53:37.438 Um, come on. 00:53:38.378 --> 00:53:43.118 I feel like in a lot of cases when you're like, oh, I should have, I should have tried harder. 00:53:43.138 --> 00:53:44.438 I should have tried to meet them. 00:53:44.458 --> 00:53:46.018 They're like, damn, I should have tried harder. 00:53:46.038 --> 00:53:46.858 I should have tried to meet. 00:53:47.018 --> 00:53:50.558 Like, I feel like it's a mutual feeling a lot of the time. 00:53:50.918 --> 00:53:51.818 At least I hope it is. 00:53:53.018 --> 00:53:55.278 So if you're listening, just... 00:53:56.078 --> 00:53:56.758 Oh, God. 00:53:58.618 --> 00:54:06.738 I was going to do the joke of, so if you're listening, just at Clair on Twitter, just tell her the answer. 00:54:07.638 --> 00:54:09.818 But I don't want to make that joke. 00:54:09.858 --> 00:54:11.418 Just tell me how hot I am. 00:54:12.318 --> 00:54:13.698 Just on Twitter. 00:54:14.058 --> 00:54:16.938 Just at Clair on Twitter and tell her how hot she is. 00:54:17.398 --> 00:54:20.538 Is there like a specific, is there a specific time of year? 00:54:21.158 --> 00:54:21.378 Summer? 00:54:22.298 --> 00:54:24.078 Summer is first dates? 00:54:24.818 --> 00:54:26.538 Yeah, hell yeah. 00:54:26.558 --> 00:54:27.478 Not September. 00:54:28.018 --> 00:54:29.118 July, June. 00:54:29.918 --> 00:54:31.398 Gotta be, gotta be. 00:54:31.598 --> 00:54:32.678 It's early summer, yeah? 00:54:32.918 --> 00:54:33.518 Early summer. 00:54:34.238 --> 00:54:38.918 Yeah, I was gonna say mid, but then I realized June is early summer, so yeah. 00:54:38.998 --> 00:54:40.918 June is absolutely early summer, yes. 00:54:41.138 --> 00:54:42.918 Sometimes I forget spring gets warm. 00:54:43.438 --> 00:54:44.438 Yeah, it's wild, eh? 00:54:44.998 --> 00:54:50.538 It's weird that spring doesn't end in March, and it does in fact start. 00:54:50.538 --> 00:54:51.558 It's weird. 00:54:51.578 --> 00:54:58.098 I think it's fucked up that seasons have levels to them, right? 00:54:58.118 --> 00:55:05.278 Yeah, because we're in a latitude that is true. 00:55:05.298 --> 00:55:08.498 Yeah, it's wild. 00:55:08.518 --> 00:55:14.658 A season doesn't just immediately stop at the end of the season and turn into a completely different weather pattern. 00:55:14.998 --> 00:55:17.518 You mean like Stardew Valley or Animal Crossing? 00:55:17.538 --> 00:55:17.838 Yes. 00:55:18.258 --> 00:55:19.178 Yeah, it's weird. 00:55:19.198 --> 00:55:20.898 We're not in Stardew Valley or Animal Crossing. 00:55:23.038 --> 00:55:27.758 We are in a world in which dates can happen. 00:55:27.778 --> 00:55:30.138 I guess they can also happen in Stardew Valley. 00:55:30.518 --> 00:55:32.858 I want to live in a world where dates can't happen. 00:55:32.878 --> 00:55:42.658 That's like one of those concepts, one of those dystopias that straight people write about, what if love was illegal? 00:55:43.498 --> 00:55:44.318 Oh, wild. 00:55:44.338 --> 00:55:45.838 What a wild concept. 00:55:47.958 --> 00:55:52.098 No one's ever experienced that before. 00:55:52.118 --> 00:55:52.618 Damn. 00:55:53.178 --> 00:55:53.998 Forbidden love? 00:55:54.078 --> 00:55:56.098 Couldn't understand it. 00:55:56.118 --> 00:55:58.558 Couldn't get my head around it. 00:55:59.358 --> 00:56:01.238 Is there anything else that's important about a date to you? 00:56:01.878 --> 00:56:02.558 Communication. 00:56:07.078 --> 00:56:08.158 I like being blunt and honest. 00:56:08.178 --> 00:56:11.158 And I don't mean blunt in the way that people go, I'm blunt. 00:56:11.178 --> 00:56:13.318 If I say something mean, I expect you to take it. 00:56:13.338 --> 00:56:13.978 I mean blunt. 00:56:13.998 --> 00:56:17.658 And I'm just going to be real. 00:56:17.718 --> 00:56:20.498 It's like, oh, these are my expectations. 00:56:20.998 --> 00:56:25.038 This is what I was thinking before we met up. 00:56:25.878 --> 00:56:26.958 How do you feel? 00:56:27.538 --> 00:56:33.898 And if those don't align, then we talk about it instead of like starting around the fact. 00:56:34.258 --> 00:56:35.998 And if they can't do that, then... 00:56:36.578 --> 00:56:37.538 I mean, that's fine. 00:56:37.558 --> 00:56:38.758 It's just not a match, right? 00:56:39.178 --> 00:56:40.578 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 00:56:40.818 --> 00:56:42.638 Yeah, that's very important. 00:56:42.658 --> 00:56:43.378 Is there also... 00:56:44.078 --> 00:56:47.118 How much sharing happens on a first date? 00:56:47.298 --> 00:56:48.218 Oh, all of it. 00:56:48.238 --> 00:56:52.798 When it's me, it's like, let me tell you every story that you want to hear. 00:56:54.538 --> 00:56:55.798 I will just keep sharing. 00:56:56.598 --> 00:56:58.658 And usually it's like back and forth, right? 00:56:58.678 --> 00:57:01.358 It's like you tell a story, and then something prompts that. 00:57:01.358 --> 00:57:03.078 It's like, oh, that reminds me. 00:57:03.098 --> 00:57:04.958 And then they'll share a story for a while. 00:57:04.978 --> 00:57:07.138 And it's like, oh, well, I thought of this. 00:57:07.158 --> 00:57:08.958 And it's just a back and forth. 00:57:08.978 --> 00:57:12.738 And that's conversation, I feel, right? 00:57:12.838 --> 00:57:13.898 You just share stories. 00:57:14.018 --> 00:57:20.798 And I think that's why a first date is so exciting to me, because that's how I communicate with someone on a first date. 00:57:20.818 --> 00:57:25.478 It's like, this story that you've told now makes me think of a story that I've told. 00:57:25.678 --> 00:57:28.338 And so I can tell a story and make you think of a story. 00:57:28.918 --> 00:57:32.918 And it's just like, you know, it's really easy to fill the time on a first date. 00:57:33.158 --> 00:57:38.078 Yeah, it's a date, and it's also sort of a storytelling session. 00:57:42.318 --> 00:57:42.598 I know. 00:57:42.618 --> 00:57:44.238 This is also how I do first dates. 00:57:44.298 --> 00:57:45.838 So like, I fully understand. 00:57:47.038 --> 00:57:50.298 Wow, it's almost like we should play storytelling games together. 00:57:50.778 --> 00:57:52.438 God, I can't imagine doing that. 00:57:54.058 --> 00:57:54.378 Who would... 00:57:54.978 --> 00:58:01.238 Clair, I can't imagine playing some sort of storytelling or role-playing game with you. 00:58:01.878 --> 00:58:06.378 Playing the roles of other people, but in real life, huh? 00:58:06.378 --> 00:58:08.618 Sounds pretty problematic to me. 00:58:08.638 --> 00:58:11.378 Uh-huh. 00:58:11.938 --> 00:58:15.678 I feel like a tabletop game as a first date would be a wild one. 00:58:15.698 --> 00:58:17.478 Holy Christ, that's so... 00:58:18.018 --> 00:58:19.418 You'd have to do a session zero. 00:58:19.778 --> 00:58:22.558 You'd have to be like, that would have to be the first date. 00:58:23.538 --> 00:58:23.898 Right? 00:58:23.918 --> 00:58:25.198 What are the lines? 00:58:25.298 --> 00:58:26.978 What are the, like, veils? 00:58:27.278 --> 00:58:29.498 Hey, what if you just treat... 00:58:30.738 --> 00:58:32.638 In this relationship, what are the lines? 00:58:32.658 --> 00:58:33.698 What are the veils? 00:58:35.718 --> 00:58:36.638 What's your character? 00:58:36.678 --> 00:58:38.018 Can you describe your character? 00:58:38.038 --> 00:58:41.078 Can you fill in kind of the character sheet for yourself? 00:58:42.718 --> 00:58:44.818 I would run away so quickly! 00:58:44.838 --> 00:58:50.858 Can you imagine if you just sat down and someone handed you a character sheet and was like, can you just fill this in? 00:58:50.878 --> 00:58:52.038 It's like a D&D character sheet. 00:58:53.998 --> 00:58:55.798 What do you think your strength is? 00:58:55.918 --> 00:58:57.218 What is your agility? 00:58:58.518 --> 00:59:00.038 What do you think your skills are? 00:59:02.558 --> 00:59:04.198 I'm trying to think of D&D things. 00:59:05.558 --> 00:59:06.718 These guns! 00:59:09.998 --> 00:59:11.358 Oh, this is... 00:59:11.378 --> 00:59:12.718 That would be a hell of a time. 00:59:14.578 --> 00:59:18.918 Hopefully, there are better first dates in your future than that. 00:59:20.558 --> 00:59:21.898 I think there will be. 00:59:21.918 --> 00:59:23.618 I think we've done it. 00:59:23.818 --> 00:59:25.438 We've done 4 Cravings. 00:59:25.638 --> 00:59:27.098 We've therapized Brianna. 00:59:27.118 --> 00:59:29.478 Yeah, we truly have. 00:59:29.658 --> 00:59:39.238 Next time, let's make sure all of our Cravings are like a robot or a goddamn new society. 00:59:39.438 --> 00:59:40.838 Alright, Brianna, just for you. 00:59:40.858 --> 00:59:42.798 Every Craving Next Step says, just get it. 00:59:43.098 --> 00:59:47.978 You're gonna be like, okay, so I have these real Cravings this time, and I'm gonna be like, a robot. 00:59:49.578 --> 00:59:53.518 Yeah, we've done too much of the real shit. 00:59:53.518 --> 00:59:58.898 Now we have to go back to our MO of just fully speculative podcasting. 00:59:59.058 --> 01:00:00.398 This has been Salt Cravings. 01:00:00.858 --> 01:00:08.938 If you want more of our wonderful, wonderful content, you can find us at Salt Cravings on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. 01:00:09.678 --> 01:00:20.158 You can also 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