SPEAKER_1: Hey folks, a brief but important message at the top of this week's episode.
SPEAKER_1: The Minneapolis protests have been going on for a number of days now, and I speak for myself, but I know Brianna would agree, it's important to stand with these protesters and those fighting against cop brutality.
SPEAKER_1: If you're still not sure how to help though, we've included some links in the description, including blacklivesmatter.card.co, but there's a number of them that you can check out.
SPEAKER_1: However, it's also important to remember that there will likely be protests and actions in a city near you.
SPEAKER_1: And then if you have access to proper personal protective equipment against COVID-19 and the ability to, it's important to show up.
SPEAKER_1: In the meantime, I hope this show delivers some small relief.
SPEAKER_1: Take care of yourselves, love one another, and most importantly, A-Cab.
SPEAKER_1: I'm so fucking done with this already.
SPEAKER_3: Hey, can someone get the animal out of here?
SPEAKER_3: What's this animal doing here?
SPEAKER_3: Hey, can someone help this animal get out of here?
SPEAKER_3: Can we just make sure this animal is able to cross over to that other area?
SPEAKER_3: Anyone, any Animal Crossing experts out here?
SPEAKER_3: Hey.
SPEAKER_3: Do you ever have a skill which is the ability to do Animal Crossing noises, and you just want to show it off for a podcast?
SPEAKER_3: No.
SPEAKER_3: Well, I do.
SPEAKER_3: And so I did.
SPEAKER_3: Let me translate what I said in Animalese.
SPEAKER_3: Hello and welcome to Salt Cravings.
SPEAKER_3: My name is Brianna.
SPEAKER_1: And my name is Clair.
SPEAKER_1: It's funny how you introduced me actually in Animalese.
SPEAKER_1: You projected your voice into my mouth.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, I just did that.
SPEAKER_3: So that was fun and normal.
SPEAKER_3: Welcome to our very normal podcast about Cravings.
SPEAKER_3: Don't know why someone would have jumped in on this episode specifically, but in case you have, hello.
SPEAKER_3: And welcome to our podcast where we talk about our Cravings and make a lot of funny jokes like haha Animal Crossing.
SPEAKER_3: How you been, Clair?
SPEAKER_2: How have I been?
SPEAKER_1: You ever like go in so fast that you don't stop and then you think, have I checked in with myself lately?
SPEAKER_1: Anyways, now that I'm checking in with myself, I feel like I left the house for, you know, I did my once every two weeks leaving of the house and now I'm done with the leaving of the house for another two weeks.
SPEAKER_1: So I guess I'm good.
SPEAKER_2: How are you?
SPEAKER_3: All right, I'm a little, it's a time right now, but in general, I'm doing well.
SPEAKER_3: I don't know.
SPEAKER_3: I don't know what to say about current status.
SPEAKER_3: Let's not say anything about it then.
SPEAKER_1: It's a comedy podcast.
SPEAKER_1: Let's just do the podcast.
SPEAKER_1: We can talk about the funny things and let the people who are experts talk about the other stuff.
SPEAKER_1: The things, you know, the things.
SPEAKER_3: So, Clair, with that spirit in mind, would you tell me about your first craving?
SPEAKER_2: For the honor of Grayskull!
SPEAKER_1: I fucking love She-Ra so much.
SPEAKER_3: I have been craving.
SPEAKER_1: Before anything else, all I'm going to say, She-Ra, five spoilers ahead.
SPEAKER_1: Brianna will put a timestamp in the description for when these end.
SPEAKER_1: Go look in the description.
SPEAKER_1: Hey, if you're not paying attention, hey, you, listening, you listening, look in the goddamn description.
SPEAKER_3: She-Ra, season five spoilers coming up.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, all right, cool.
SPEAKER_1: You have been warned.
SPEAKER_1: All right, we're going, the whole thing, just the whole thing, we are going to spoil the whole thing probably.
SPEAKER_3: Just for real.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, we're going to spoil the entirety of She-Ra.
SPEAKER_1: The whole thing.
SPEAKER_1: I just want to be clear.
SPEAKER_1: You should not, if you haven't watched it, please don't spoil it for yourself.
SPEAKER_1: Unless you're never going to watch it, then I guess, I don't know, stick around.
SPEAKER_3: Or if you don't care about spoilers.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm projecting.
SPEAKER_1: I care about spoilers so heavily.
SPEAKER_3: I know lots of people who don't care about spoilers all that much.
SPEAKER_3: So if you don't care about spoilers, or you're not going to watch it, or you've seen it, come along with us into a journey to Etheria.
SPEAKER_1: All right, let's get into it.
SPEAKER_1: Holy shit.
SPEAKER_3: What a good show.
SPEAKER_1: What a good fucking show.
SPEAKER_3: This is just us screen wait.
SPEAKER_1: One sec.
SPEAKER_1: Ahem.
SPEAKER_3: I, yeah, that's the mood.
SPEAKER_3: I have, I watched She-Ra with my girlfriend.
SPEAKER_3: We watched it together.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, it was really good.
SPEAKER_3: And emotional.
SPEAKER_3: We freaked out.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, we freaked out and cried.
SPEAKER_3: It was a good time.
SPEAKER_3: And then I got to witness you go through it as you texted me about it.
SPEAKER_1: You somehow watched it before me, which is impressive, because like I have been preparing.
SPEAKER_3: Because you have a job.
SPEAKER_1: Right, because I work during the day and it came out not Friday night, but Thursday night.
SPEAKER_1: So like I was like, okay, I can't start watching it Thursday night or else I'm going to just like not, I'm going to be up until like 3 a.m.
SPEAKER_1: and then I'll just be useless all Friday.
SPEAKER_1: So I waited until Friday.
SPEAKER_1: Like I basically finished work, made dinner, and then like sat down and just consumed the entirety.
SPEAKER_1: And this was my plan from the beginning of the week.
SPEAKER_1: I've just been, I was just like ready.
SPEAKER_1: I literally have not planned to binge a show ever maybe.
SPEAKER_1: Anyways, I love this show.
SPEAKER_1: And holy Catra, holy Catra, holy Catra.
SPEAKER_3: Let's, I just.
SPEAKER_1: So at the end of season four, I almost tweeted fall of Catra better than fall of Azula.
SPEAKER_1: I'm just going to say Catra Redemption Arc.
SPEAKER_1: That's what Azula needed.
SPEAKER_1: Like from Avatar, like.
SPEAKER_3: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, that was what Avatar was missing.
SPEAKER_3: I think so too.
SPEAKER_3: I saw, I saw, I was talking about like comparing it to Zuko's Redemption Arc.
SPEAKER_3: And I think that that looks favorably on She-Ra.
SPEAKER_3: I think it does.
SPEAKER_3: I think that that like when you compare those two, you're like, oh shit.
SPEAKER_3: Zuko's Redemption Arc will be the best of all time.
SPEAKER_3: Catra, I think meets, meets that at the very least.
SPEAKER_1: Like minimum, holy.
SPEAKER_1: The line that kills me every time I hear it is, did you just jump into fire for me?
SPEAKER_2: And it's like, wow, they really did that.
SPEAKER_2: They really made her do that.
SPEAKER_3: Oh, I everything about it works so well.
SPEAKER_3: The like slow burn that was sort of this whole season, but also has been the whole five seasons.
SPEAKER_1: It really has.
SPEAKER_3: I really want to like enemies to lovers is a really good thing.
SPEAKER_1: So a friend of mine is going through it, and I rewatched like a single episode of season four with them, just like episode three of season four.
SPEAKER_1: And I just had feel like I had so many feelings because it was like watching children.
SPEAKER_2: It was like watching babies like they just they weren't prepared.
SPEAKER_1: Season four was not prepared for season five.
SPEAKER_3: They weren't even prepared for season four.
SPEAKER_3: I mean, yeah, I think it's interesting because season four is like intense and dark, you know, with Glimmer and with Catra, really both kind of parallel falls there.
SPEAKER_3: And then you get to season five and it's like, you are like little children.
SPEAKER_3: You know nothing of what is to come.
SPEAKER_3: Because season five is just like, you know, it's fucking in space.
SPEAKER_3: They went to space.
SPEAKER_1: They went to space and God, the whole hand, every time there were shots of hands, every time there were shots of Catra's hands reaching for Adora's hands.
SPEAKER_1: And the like, so, Yutena Revolutionary Girl is on my To Watch list, but like I've seen the post where like the final scene or like one of the final scenes is Catra reaching through a doorway into like Adora's mind.
SPEAKER_1: And that's literally just a direct homage to Yutena.
SPEAKER_1: And it has made me want to like push that to the top of my To Watch list so quickly.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, that one's going to be a tough one because I know that there's a lot of triggering content in it.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_3: I've been warned.
SPEAKER_3: And I really appreciate that kind of reference there.
SPEAKER_3: It really feels, you know, She-Ra for throughout its kind of entire run to me has felt like a show that is in dialogue with other kind of animated shows.
SPEAKER_3: I think about She-Ra in terms of and kind of in contrast and similarity to Steven Universe.
SPEAKER_3: I think there are two philosophies at play there in terms of like, we talk about love and we talk about redemption and we talk about like what it means to grow and get better.
SPEAKER_3: I think that there are comparable things there.
SPEAKER_3: And I really, really like the way that She-Ra handles it.
SPEAKER_3: I think it does an incredible job of kind of in a goddamn kids show portraying an understanding of like restorative and transformative justice, like of love and what it means to like connect to other people and to give everything for a cause and like queerness just in general.
SPEAKER_3: She-Ra nails it on so many different kind of deeper things and also it's just a very fun show to watch.
SPEAKER_1: And it's so pretty, the animation is like everything about it, following like the animators and all the stuff they've like done for it.
SPEAKER_1: Just like, God, even the music.
SPEAKER_1: I think I sent you a post.
SPEAKER_1: There's a scene where Catra is being controlled by Horde Prime, which is just, ugh.
SPEAKER_3: That scene is terrifying.
SPEAKER_1: Going back and like truly understanding how deeply Adora cares for Catra and then watching that scene again is heart wrenching.
SPEAKER_1: When Catra just like takes a step off the ledge and Adora catches her.
SPEAKER_1: Ugh.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah.
SPEAKER_3: That scene I think is like one of my favorite scenes.
SPEAKER_3: That episode I think is one of my favorite episodes of She-Ra and of this season.
SPEAKER_3: Because I think it is so hard to watch at times.
SPEAKER_3: There's like moments during that whole sequence where you're like, I don't want to see this.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_3: I don't like seeing Catra like this.
SPEAKER_3: It was rough.
SPEAKER_3: I don't like it.
SPEAKER_3: But it does it in a really good way.
SPEAKER_1: Also, oh my God, I couldn't stop thinking about like the scene where they're children and Catra goes, I'm never going to apologize to anyone.
SPEAKER_1: And then she apologizes not only to Adora, but to Glimmer.
SPEAKER_1: And like, that is, ugh.
SPEAKER_3: There's a lot of really good, you know, even outside of the Catra-Dora stuff, which we love, obviously.
SPEAKER_1: Catra and Glimmer as well.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, and Scorfuma.
SPEAKER_3: I like the sort of friendship between the kind of unlikely friendship between Catra and Glimmer.
SPEAKER_3: I think it's really sweet.
SPEAKER_1: The jail scenes.
SPEAKER_3: I know.
SPEAKER_1: That whole season, I literally like, I did binge that season, but I literally had to take emotional breaks and be like, okay, whoo, 10 minutes.
SPEAKER_1: I just need to stop consuming this for 10 minutes because I'm overwhelmed.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, no, absolutely.
SPEAKER_3: There's so much good going on there.
SPEAKER_3: And this is even talking about like, Horde Prime, who is just a truly brilliant, terrifying villain.
SPEAKER_3: Like, the use of language that, you know, it's clearly, and Noelle has said, the showrunner has said, it is directly inspired on cults and cult language.
SPEAKER_3: I think there's also an aspect of like, fascist language and imagery there going on as well.
SPEAKER_1: Even, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, she posted like, images of cult churches and like, the scenery, the like, backgrounds and everything are directly so closely like, taken inspiration from those.
SPEAKER_1: It's so good.
SPEAKER_1: And thinking of all of that, also Wrong Hordak is just precious.
SPEAKER_3: Wrong Hordak's very good.
SPEAKER_1: Every scene with Wrong Hordak is just like, baby.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, he's just a good baby.
SPEAKER_3: He just doesn't understand.
SPEAKER_2: He just tries.
SPEAKER_3: He's trying his best.
SPEAKER_3: He's doing what he can.
SPEAKER_1: When Wrong Hordak has a world-breaking view and he just has a meltdown, and then they meet Milag, and it's like, oh, you know, Wrong Hordak's just questioning the meaning of life, just casually.
SPEAKER_3: God, that's super good.
SPEAKER_3: I also, shout out to Milag and Katra, which is super good.
SPEAKER_3: I love when a show is like, hey, see this, like, tough, edgy kind of character who's very angry and stuff.
SPEAKER_3: We've given them a pet now.
SPEAKER_3: It's my favorite thing that Young Justice does in season one with Superboy.
SPEAKER_3: It just starts piling on the pets.
SPEAKER_3: And I appreciate that She-Ra does it too.
SPEAKER_3: And Milag's a good character.
SPEAKER_1: And the whole scene with Milag, where it's just like, what is the quote where it's like, I'm trying to work on that thing where I get angry.
SPEAKER_2: And Indora just goes, you are?
SPEAKER_2: And it's like, oh, when you see your friends going through growth, it's like, that's the exact reaction where it's like, oh my God, you've been taking my words to heart.
SPEAKER_2: What?
SPEAKER_3: Yeah.
SPEAKER_3: This season really managed to be like heartfelt and meaningful and also funny and also gay.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, so gay.
SPEAKER_3: If you weren't going to bring this craving, I was going to bring this craving.
SPEAKER_3: We both loved this show.
SPEAKER_1: It's easily up there.
SPEAKER_1: It's easily like when I look back and to shows that I want to rewatch, this is going to be one of them.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, I think this is probably one of my favorite animated shows, like Full Stop.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_3: But She-Ra made me feel real good.
SPEAKER_3: And bad, and bad, both kind of in the best way.
SPEAKER_1: It scared me.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, there are moments in the show that are like freaky.
SPEAKER_1: I just want people to be okay.
SPEAKER_1: And it's like, I know they're going to be because in the song, it says they're going to win in the end, but like...
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, but there's still costs to victory, you know?
SPEAKER_1: Shadow Weaver's ending?
SPEAKER_1: Holy shit.
SPEAKER_3: Bye, bitch.
SPEAKER_3: I cried, but like, eat shit.
SPEAKER_1: Just when we had the shot of Shadow Weaver, she could take power and she realized that she would rather see Adora and Catra grow beyond herself.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: And she knew she had to take herself out of the equation.
SPEAKER_3: It's a really good moment.
SPEAKER_1: Have you read the like quote from Noel about Shadow Weaver?
SPEAKER_3: Yes, I have.
SPEAKER_3: About how even in this moment, it's like kind of a selfish kind of shitty action.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: Everyday people don't really, we don't know a Horde Prime, but like pretty much everyone knows a Shadow Weaver.
SPEAKER_3: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_3: No, she's a very like recognizable character.
SPEAKER_3: I'm glad she's dead.
SPEAKER_1: They couldn't have been happy with her there still.
SPEAKER_3: No.
SPEAKER_3: I just...
SPEAKER_3: I think like the thing that is...
SPEAKER_1: It was a tragic ending that had to happen.
SPEAKER_3: Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_3: I think for me, the thing about Shadow Weaver is I'm just glad that she didn't get some sort of redemption, right?
SPEAKER_3: Like she has a moment.
SPEAKER_1: I mean, she was being bad the entire, like she was not growing.
SPEAKER_1: She refused to grow.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah.
SPEAKER_3: I think the thing that I appreciate about the way that she did redemption is that there is a notion here of what actual redemption looks like, right?
SPEAKER_3: It's not the...
SPEAKER_3: And Avatar did this too, for what it's worth though.
SPEAKER_3: I think that choosing Azula as kind of the one who isn't redeemed makes me sad and frustrated.
SPEAKER_3: But I think that there is this notion here of what actual redemption takes, right?
SPEAKER_3: It is work and it is realization and kind of pushing against abuse.
SPEAKER_3: And it's something that I character like Catra is willing to do, while I character like Shadow Weaver is not.
SPEAKER_3: Because Catra understands that she has done things wrong, whereas Shadow Weaver basically until the end kind of thinks, oh, I kind of did things right.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, she's so self-righteous.
SPEAKER_1: And especially with the whole, gosh, I'm forgetting Glitter's aunt's name.
SPEAKER_3: Castaspella.
SPEAKER_1: Castaspella, of course, yeah, all right, I should have remembered that.
SPEAKER_3: The names here are so funny.
SPEAKER_1: They're so good.
SPEAKER_1: They're like, this is anyways, cast the whole scene with Shadow Weaver and Castaspella going and her trusting Shadow Weaver up until the point where it's like, oh shit, you tricked me again.
SPEAKER_1: Why did I think anything different?
SPEAKER_1: I'm not even shocked.
SPEAKER_1: And Shadow Weaver being like, you should hold it against me if I betray you and then betraying them.
SPEAKER_1: Also, Micah.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, Micah.
SPEAKER_1: The seed between Micah and Glimmer.
SPEAKER_3: Evil.
SPEAKER_3: The battle.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah.
SPEAKER_3: I think they handle the mind control shit very well, like making clear how sad and scary it is for the characters who love the people who are now mind controlled.
SPEAKER_1: Mind controlled Scorpio was a ride.
SPEAKER_3: Mind controlled Scorpio, I really like the choice to make it so that she doesn't say a word ever.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_1: She doesn't.
SPEAKER_3: Every character who is mind controlled makes like little quips or mean, says little mean things, right?
SPEAKER_3: Kind of them at their worst.
SPEAKER_3: Scorpio doesn't have, Scorpio at her worst is someone who chooses not to say anything, right?
SPEAKER_3: It's like, it is fully, if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.
SPEAKER_3: Scorpio lives that so hard that mind controlled her just doesn't speak.
SPEAKER_1: After I watched the second Vermistries where they like go, Scorpio sacrifices herself basically, and she just turns around and she's like, after all, I'm the muscle and just like, uh, my heart.
SPEAKER_1: I know.
SPEAKER_3: She-Ra rules.
SPEAKER_1: She-Ra is so good.
SPEAKER_3: Was the craving that you just wanted to talk about it?
SPEAKER_1: I just crave more She-Ra.
SPEAKER_1: I want, like, She-Ra is the first show or media that has made me want fan fiction, like to read fan fiction about it, but like soft fan fiction, not like I don't want more adventures.
SPEAKER_1: I just want them going off into space and like cooking on their spaceship and like, you know, finding cute little aliens to play with and playing games on a weird alien planet together, like Frisbee or something.
SPEAKER_1: Like that's what I want.
SPEAKER_3: I love it.
SPEAKER_1: I crave that so bad.
SPEAKER_3: I was seeing a couple of people kind of when I was looking at all the Twitter stuff, some people being like, wait, this is the last season?
SPEAKER_3: No, I want more of this show.
SPEAKER_3: I'm like, I the fuck don't.
SPEAKER_3: I want them to live happily ever after forever.
SPEAKER_3: I want fan fiction.
SPEAKER_3: What I want is to see them live happily ever after, not for them to go through anything more, right?
SPEAKER_3: I'm very excited.
SPEAKER_1: The future, the future shot.
SPEAKER_1: Also, like the Catra future outfit.
SPEAKER_1: Can we talk about?
SPEAKER_3: Can we talk about Glimmer and Catra in the future and just that good friendship?
SPEAKER_3: I really feel happy with where the story ended.
SPEAKER_3: And I love to, I would love to like read some fan fiction, find some good soft stuff.
SPEAKER_3: What I'm mostly excited for is like what people on this team end up doing next.
SPEAKER_3: I would love to watch whatever comes next because I think She-Ra, She-Ra has made me like trust in these creators in a way that I rarely trust creators of anything.
SPEAKER_1: I'm so, Nimona, not Nimona, Noelle just, I, yeah, I trust Noelle with my life.
SPEAKER_1: Quote from Noelle, we don't bury our gaze.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, and you know, the Catadora Kiss is not the first queer kiss on television in animated.
SPEAKER_1: It's not the first queer kiss in She-Ra.
SPEAKER_3: It's not the first queer kiss in She-Ra, but it is, but it does still feel like a shift.
SPEAKER_3: I mean, She-Ra in general feels like finally a show where they weren't afraid to make everyone queer, right?
SPEAKER_3: Like, I feel like a lot of queer creators tend to be like, ah, yes, we're, we're just going to make all of our characters queer.
SPEAKER_3: And usually when they do that, it's, they are able to do that because it's like a small webcomic or a small like podcast or whatever it is that they're working on.
SPEAKER_3: The fact that She-Ra was able to be that and is also like a fucking DreamWorks and Netflix property feels significant.
SPEAKER_3: And I'm really glad that it's going to be something that a lot of queer children are able to watch.
SPEAKER_3: And a lot of straight children as well.
SPEAKER_3: Right?
SPEAKER_3: Like I'm glad that kids are going to be able to see this and see this kind of positive representation.
SPEAKER_1: The straights are valid, but only the ones in She-Ra.
SPEAKER_3: They're valid because we know they're not straight, right?
SPEAKER_3: Like Seahawk and Mermista, we've met their exes.
SPEAKER_3: That's true.
SPEAKER_1: I mean, I'm mostly thinking, I don't know.
SPEAKER_1: I'm like Kordak.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, he is.
SPEAKER_3: Bo, I think also you can make an argument.
SPEAKER_3: I don't know if Bo's straight.
SPEAKER_1: Bo's the like early 2000s hetero flexible.
SPEAKER_3: Bo and Glimmer is like, Bo and Glimmer was cute.
SPEAKER_3: Bo and Glimmer was cute.
SPEAKER_1: I was so happy with that.
SPEAKER_1: That was so good.
SPEAKER_1: That was so wholesome.
SPEAKER_3: Maybe some hetero.
SPEAKER_1: They were just friends.
SPEAKER_3: God, yeah, I love that we don't get any direct confirmation.
SPEAKER_3: We get, you know, it's implied.
SPEAKER_3: It's sort of there.
SPEAKER_3: Really like this is welcome to the shoe on the other foot, motherfucker.
SPEAKER_1: Bo and Glimmer were just really good childhood friends.
SPEAKER_3: They were.
SPEAKER_3: They're just pals.
SPEAKER_3: Welcome to our wonderful world in which the gays are canon and the straights are, you know, you could see it, you could interpret it that way, but, you know, love to straight bait.
SPEAKER_2: Straight bait.
SPEAKER_3: I don't know.
SPEAKER_3: We could talk about She-Ra for forever.
SPEAKER_1: We've been doing it for a while now.
SPEAKER_1: I think we can.
SPEAKER_1: I'm, I'm, no, I'm not satisfied.
SPEAKER_1: I'm going to be continuing to talk about She-Ra forever, but I think that's enough.
SPEAKER_1: I think people have, you know, taken our shit long enough about how we're into She-Ra.
SPEAKER_1: I think we can say that this is where the spoilers end.
SPEAKER_3: That's She-Ra.
SPEAKER_3: So now for the rest of the podcast.
SPEAKER_3: Um, so when I was doing the animalese at the top of the episode, that wasn't just to show off.
SPEAKER_3: It was also because my first craving today is about Animal Crossing.
SPEAKER_3: So Animal Crossing New Horizons rules as a game.
SPEAKER_3: It is, we've been playing it for weeks now.
SPEAKER_3: We've been having a good old time.
SPEAKER_3: But thing about Animal Crossing, there are lots of options for making things in Animal Crossing New Horizons, but there aren't quite enough.
SPEAKER_3: I simply wish to be able to create my ideal island of Lesbos.
SPEAKER_3: My vibes that I'm trying to go for on my island are like ancient Greek Mediterranean type vibes.
SPEAKER_3: It's very much like Isle of Lesbos, hence the name.
SPEAKER_3: That is like fully the vibes that I want to go for.
SPEAKER_3: And there are some options for that, but there's a lot of things that I'm missing.
SPEAKER_3: I don't have a real good marble, path texture.
SPEAKER_1: You don't have enough mannequins.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_3: So right now, the thing that I'm trying to do in Animal Crossing New Horizons is to create a rock garden, which you can look up a guide on how to do that.
SPEAKER_3: It's very difficult.
SPEAKER_3: It involves you having to cover your island in such a way so that rocks can only spawn in a particular area.
SPEAKER_3: And one of the ways to do that is with putting mannequins everywhere.
SPEAKER_3: It is one of the easiest methods.
SPEAKER_3: Go with that method if you're doing it.
SPEAKER_3: And so my island is covered in mannequins right now.
SPEAKER_3: But once it's not covered in mannequins, then the vibes are definitely going to be like in Lesbos.
SPEAKER_3: As much as I can, right?
SPEAKER_3: Because if you think about things that are associated with ancient Greece, it's a lot of marble, there's like a lot of statues which are hard to get because red only comes once every like five months or something.
SPEAKER_3: Which is ridiculous.
SPEAKER_3: Why did they not make it weekly?
SPEAKER_3: It's a very stupid change they've made from past games.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, red used to come to your island weekly.
SPEAKER_3: And that is how you would get the stuff that you needed.
SPEAKER_3: But now it's completely random.
SPEAKER_3: And I've not seen red in four weeks.
SPEAKER_1: I've never seen red.
SPEAKER_1: I bought one thing.
SPEAKER_1: I bought one statue that was fake.
SPEAKER_1: And then I never saw that guy again.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, no, I've seen him once since then.
SPEAKER_3: So I need more options.
SPEAKER_3: I need the options to create my ideal Animal Crossing vibes.
SPEAKER_3: That's my craving.
SPEAKER_1: DLC?
SPEAKER_3: Sure, like I do DLC for Animal Crossing.
SPEAKER_1: They are planning three years of DLC.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, can this be like, can Animal Crossing be the new Sims?
SPEAKER_3: You know how Sims does like expansion packs with different themes, right?
SPEAKER_1: No, I have no idea.
SPEAKER_3: Wait, are you joking or not?
SPEAKER_1: I've played the Sims for like maybe three hours total.
SPEAKER_3: Okay, well, a thing that I know because I'm close with a lot of people who like the Sims is that very regularly the Sims will put out an expansion pack, like kind of every couple of months that has like new types of things going on, right?
SPEAKER_1: Like new like assets?
SPEAKER_3: The last one was like, it gave you the option to go to like, it was like really filling out the university system more robustly and like giving more options for like university.
SPEAKER_3: They did a Witches and Wizards one a while back.
SPEAKER_1: We should make our Animal Crossing people go to university.
SPEAKER_3: God, this doesn't help me at all or my craving at all, but I think it would also be fun.
SPEAKER_3: Listen, we've done, Animal Crossing has been to a lot of places.
SPEAKER_3: They went to the city once.
SPEAKER_3: That one was great, even though it sold terribly.
SPEAKER_3: They were the mayor and there was that, the whole thing going on.
SPEAKER_3: Now they're on a deserted island.
SPEAKER_3: Now they're gods.
SPEAKER_3: So next, it clearly has to be, they go to university, get a degree.
SPEAKER_3: What degree would your Animal Crossing character get, Clair?
SPEAKER_1: I think I would get a bug degree just so I could walk up to Blathers and start talking about bugs at him all the time.
SPEAKER_3: Why would you do that to poor Blathers?
SPEAKER_1: I hate Blathers so much.
SPEAKER_1: He hates bugs.
SPEAKER_2: And I'm just like, why do you?
SPEAKER_1: I get it.
SPEAKER_1: But let's also like, he's just so rude about bugs.
SPEAKER_1: Every bug I bring him, he's like, How are you?
SPEAKER_1: And I'm like, this is a precious baby.
SPEAKER_1: You are a museum curator.
SPEAKER_1: Stop telling me how much you hate bugs and just accept my bug present.
SPEAKER_3: He does accept them.
SPEAKER_3: But listen, the guy's got a phobia.
SPEAKER_3: He's doing his best in his current position.
SPEAKER_3: Cancel Blathers.
SPEAKER_3: He's doing his best God.
SPEAKER_1: Blathers is canceled.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, I'm sure you saw that.
SPEAKER_1: I have no idea what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_3: PETA canceled Blathers.
SPEAKER_1: Of course they did.
SPEAKER_3: Anyway, we don't need to talk about that.
SPEAKER_3: What I think my character, if she were to go to university, I think she would get a degree in like, probably a fine arts degree, to be honest, that feels like the sort of person who she is.
SPEAKER_3: You know, my vibes on my island are Greek, Mediterranean type vibes, and my house specifically is a Victorian style home in which none of the rooms are useful for anything.
SPEAKER_3: Or they're useful for very specific things, right?
SPEAKER_3: It's the thing of, oh, yes, I have a drawing room and a writing room and a music room, and yes, of course a bedroom, but of course I have a shrine and a walk-in closet, and those are the rooms of my house.
SPEAKER_3: What's a kitchen?
SPEAKER_3: What's a bathroom?
SPEAKER_3: Never heard of them.
SPEAKER_3: Don't care.
SPEAKER_3: Those are in the other wing, of course.
SPEAKER_3: That's the type of vibes that my character has, I think, to go for a fine arts degree.
SPEAKER_3: And then I could find red and be like, shit's fake.
SPEAKER_3: Hey, this thing?
SPEAKER_3: Fake.
SPEAKER_3: Because I assume red just doesn't know, right?
SPEAKER_3: Because we love red.
SPEAKER_3: We all love red.
SPEAKER_3: Everyone loves red.
SPEAKER_1: Red's done nothing wrong.
SPEAKER_3: Red's done nothing wrong.
SPEAKER_3: He's just not good at identifying which art is real.
SPEAKER_3: That's clearly the thing.
SPEAKER_3: I would like to help him out and make sure he knows which of his art is real and which is not.
SPEAKER_1: Maybe we need red to bring you more stolen architecture.
SPEAKER_3: Can I just have red set up on my island?
SPEAKER_3: Can we just have red get a shop on my island?
SPEAKER_3: Just so that he's there all the time.
SPEAKER_1: We'll set up a bank of red to rival the bank of Nook.
SPEAKER_3: Great.
SPEAKER_3: Finally, competition in our Animal Crossing cities.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, maybe I just need red to bring me more shit.
SPEAKER_3: That'd be good.
SPEAKER_3: But also, you know...
SPEAKER_1: Does it matter if it's counterfeit or not?
SPEAKER_1: It has to look good, right?
SPEAKER_1: What if I just dropped off a few ancient Greece pillars and all of them had a Mr.
SPEAKER_1: Potato Head nose on them?
SPEAKER_3: So that would be a problem.
SPEAKER_3: What I would want is ancient Greek pillars.
SPEAKER_3: They don't have to be from actual Greece, but they have to look like ancient Greek pillars.
SPEAKER_1: With a potato head nose on them.
SPEAKER_3: Now, that's where you're losing.
SPEAKER_1: It's like nosepass.
SPEAKER_3: So, I don't want nosepass on my island.
SPEAKER_3: It's just my only concern there.
SPEAKER_3: That's not the Pokemon vibe I'm looking for.
SPEAKER_1: Now, you can smell all your villagers better.
SPEAKER_3: Hey, hey, Clair, no.
SPEAKER_3: Hey, Clair, no.
SPEAKER_3: No.
SPEAKER_3: I don't want to smell my villagers.
SPEAKER_3: They get fleas far too often.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, how bad do you think the villagers smell?
SPEAKER_1: Like, none of you shower.
SPEAKER_1: You all live on a deserted island.
SPEAKER_3: Some of them have bathtubs.
SPEAKER_1: Some of my villagers have bathtubs, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_1: Some of them, it's like, oh, you probably haven't showered since you moved here.
SPEAKER_3: I think I could look at my villagers and identify which ones shower often and which ones don't.
SPEAKER_1: I think Walker showers every other month.
SPEAKER_3: I just got Diana in my town.
SPEAKER_3: That bitch showers every day of her life.
SPEAKER_3: I guarantee.
SPEAKER_3: I don't know how much Gala showers, to be honest.
SPEAKER_3: I don't think she showers all that much, and that's okay.
SPEAKER_3: I love Gala.
SPEAKER_1: How much does Barold shower, do you think?
SPEAKER_3: Barold?
SPEAKER_3: I choose not to acknowledge that Barold exists.
SPEAKER_3: I choose to not acknowledge.
SPEAKER_3: I think that he has never showered even one day in his life.
SPEAKER_1: He's just a little too unbearable.
SPEAKER_3: Looking at Barold reminds you how racist Animal Crossing has been in the past.
SPEAKER_1: This is my first Animal Crossing game, so I am unaware, but...
SPEAKER_3: In previous games, the only way to have dark skin was to tan, so Barold doesn't sit right with me.
SPEAKER_3: But thankfully, I don't have Barold on my island.
SPEAKER_3: I have great villagers, incredible villagers, and also two dudes who I'm going to get rid of.
SPEAKER_3: Maybe what I need is more design options.
SPEAKER_3: Maybe I need, like...
SPEAKER_1: You could just hack Animal Crossing.
SPEAKER_1: Have you seen Tree Tree?
SPEAKER_1: No, I haven't.
SPEAKER_1: So you know how you can have, like, an apple tree and a cherry tree?
SPEAKER_1: Someone hacked Animal Crossing so you could grow any item on a tree.
SPEAKER_1: So what they did was they grew Tree Tree, which is a tree that grows trees.
SPEAKER_3: I love that.
SPEAKER_3: It's good.
SPEAKER_3: A good tree.
SPEAKER_1: But if you hacked it, like, you could technically, like, add your own textures and, you know, do your whole island.
SPEAKER_3: I could, but I worry that Nintendo would come in accident.
SPEAKER_1: Fan hammer at you.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah.
SPEAKER_3: I think Nintendo would come and execute me, so I don't want to do that.
SPEAKER_3: I'm already on thin ice with my amiibo cloning.
SPEAKER_1: Right.
SPEAKER_1: You have started that.
SPEAKER_3: Or I can go to Nintendo.
SPEAKER_3: I'll just fly there, because everyone's flying everywhere right now.
SPEAKER_3: So I'll just fly there, go track down.
SPEAKER_1: With your wings.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, with my wings.
SPEAKER_3: Go track down the team that makes Animal Crossing and be like, hey, you need to put these items in the game and just have like a list of items.
SPEAKER_1: Bag them.
SPEAKER_1: What is, what is, if you could add one item, what would that be?
SPEAKER_3: Honestly, for the vibes of my island, I think it actually would be Greek pillars.
SPEAKER_1: Well, they need to add like a-
SPEAKER_3: Actually, I'm just going to quickly Google that they're not in the game and I just haven't seen them.
SPEAKER_3: Oh, they totally do have one.
SPEAKER_3: Never mind.
SPEAKER_3: This game is perfect.
SPEAKER_1: Craving salt.
SPEAKER_3: Oh, no, this is pocket camp.
SPEAKER_1: Shit.
SPEAKER_1: Ah, well, oh, well, then maybe it will come.
SPEAKER_1: Maybe DLC will be like, and now we have Greek pillars.
SPEAKER_3: Weirdly, I wouldn't have expected myself to want them to take more from pocket camp, but apparently I do.
SPEAKER_3: I would love for you to be able to go swimming.
SPEAKER_3: That would be great.
SPEAKER_3: That was the thing in-
SPEAKER_3: So in New Leaf, you could do like diving and stuff.
SPEAKER_1: That's suspected DLC I've heard.
SPEAKER_3: In pocket camp, you can have like a hot tub that you can actually go inside.
SPEAKER_3: That would be great.
SPEAKER_1: I want to get all pruney in New Horizons.
SPEAKER_3: Prune me up in Animal Crossing New Horizons for the Nintendo Switch.
SPEAKER_2: That's what the DLC is called.
SPEAKER_1: It's called Prune Me Up Daddy.
SPEAKER_3: I don't need daddy to be associated with Animal Crossing in any way.
SPEAKER_1: Who's the most daddy Animal Crossing character?
SPEAKER_3: I can't-
SPEAKER_3: I don't think that any of them are daddy.
SPEAKER_1: I have like this weird agent-esque that like screams, this person's gonna grow up and become a daddy.
SPEAKER_3: Fuck off.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, I can understand what you mean.
SPEAKER_3: I just think no one in Animal Crossing knows what sex is.
SPEAKER_1: They're animals.
SPEAKER_1: Of course they know.
SPEAKER_1: They just don't do it.
SPEAKER_3: They don't know what sex is.
SPEAKER_1: Because it's illegal.
SPEAKER_3: None of them know what sex is.
SPEAKER_1: Animal Crossing is a dystopia where sex is illegal.
SPEAKER_3: What if love was illegal and Animal Crossing New Horizons for the Nintendo Switch?
SPEAKER_1: Somebody make that trailer.
SPEAKER_3: Just like a recut of the New Horizons with like scary music and like a dark filter.
SPEAKER_3: Also, just saying Catra should be a villager in Animal Crossing.
SPEAKER_3: So we received a submission for this episode of Salt Cravings.
SPEAKER_3: I'm going to read it out.
SPEAKER_1: No, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_1: You have to do your intro.
SPEAKER_1: You are legally obligated to do your intro.
SPEAKER_3: Craving.
SPEAKER_3: It's a craving.
SPEAKER_3: Thank you.
SPEAKER_1: You did this once.
SPEAKER_1: I'm going to hold this to you forever.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah.
SPEAKER_3: Oh, God.
SPEAKER_3: Let's hope I...
SPEAKER_3: Y'all need to send submissions in so that I don't forget what it is.
SPEAKER_3: I almost did.
SPEAKER_3: So this one comes to us from Fake Eboy.
SPEAKER_1: Thank you, Fake Eboy.
SPEAKER_3: It says, Hello Salt Team, so recently there's a new trend growing on TikTok.
SPEAKER_3: Now I'm not the biggest TikToker around, haven't made my own or anything like that, but it's good fun to watch, right?
SPEAKER_3: Very engaging.
SPEAKER_3: Anyways, there's been a few trends that have drifted by.
SPEAKER_3: Everyone knows about the various TikTok dances, but recently there's been a lot of teen girls with fantastic skates.
SPEAKER_3: Have y'all seen those black Impalas?
SPEAKER_3: Every time I see one, I would also like to roller skate.
SPEAKER_3: I cannot roller skate, so my craving is a TikTok trend, one that no one could reasonably do, but that everyone wants to do, and that looks possible to do, because if I can't have fun, no one can.
SPEAKER_3: That went a different direction at the end there than I expected.
SPEAKER_1: That's quite a salty craving.
SPEAKER_3: That's a very salty submission.
SPEAKER_3: We need to develop a new TikTok trend that isn't actually possible for anyone to do.
SPEAKER_1: But looks really easy.
SPEAKER_1: That's the key thing.
SPEAKER_1: It looks like you could do it, but then you try to do it and you just can't.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, you just can't.
SPEAKER_1: What if it's...
SPEAKER_1: Now hear me out.
SPEAKER_3: Continue.
SPEAKER_1: So what if it's like reverse sword swallowing, but with your pets?
SPEAKER_3: Very cautiously continue.
SPEAKER_2: So imagine just reaching...
SPEAKER_2: No, can I continue?
SPEAKER_2: Reaching down your throat.
SPEAKER_3: Okay, I hate this so far.
SPEAKER_2: Continue.
SPEAKER_2: And just you pull out like the end of your pet's tail and then you just keep pulling.
SPEAKER_3: Okay, I have, so I just have a couple of, again, not criticisms, I don't criticize.
SPEAKER_3: These are just some questions that I have.
SPEAKER_1: Just some semantic questions.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, just some semantic questions, which is, the first one is, how would people think this is easy to do?
SPEAKER_1: You post a video with like, your cat just coming out of your mouth.
SPEAKER_1: You know, we do amazing Photoshop where it's like, oh, I invented this new like trend.
SPEAKER_1: You should all try it.
SPEAKER_1: And it's just like, oh.
SPEAKER_1: And out comes a cat, a whole cat.
SPEAKER_1: So maybe there's something easier.
SPEAKER_1: Maybe there's something deceivingly easier.
SPEAKER_3: I need us to just, we're going to continue on this for a second.
SPEAKER_1: We don't gotta.
SPEAKER_3: Because my second question here is, why wouldn't other people just kind of Photoshop and pretend to do it?
SPEAKER_1: Well, then we can be like, did you really do it?
SPEAKER_1: Like, look, we tried, we did it, but like.
SPEAKER_3: Third thing, how is this not going to lead to putting pets in danger when people try this?
SPEAKER_1: Can't put your face over a whole pet, I guess, unless you have a rat.
SPEAKER_1: Please don't eat your rats.
SPEAKER_3: Okay.
SPEAKER_3: Maybe there's other options that don't involve.
SPEAKER_1: What's an easier thing to do?
SPEAKER_1: What's a conceivably easier thing to do that is not easier to do?
SPEAKER_3: So there's this new dance.
SPEAKER_3: It's called the lick your elbow.
SPEAKER_1: But some people can do this.
SPEAKER_3: Except it's not what you think.
SPEAKER_3: It's actually about licking the back of your thigh.
SPEAKER_1: I still feel like some people can do this.
SPEAKER_3: Have you ever seen anyone do it?
SPEAKER_1: Let's make it a thing, and then we'll see like a million people be like, yeah, this is easy.
SPEAKER_1: And then they just pull their leg up to their face and lick their thigh.
SPEAKER_1: I feel like of all the places, your thigh is pretty lickable.
SPEAKER_1: Flexible people can put like their leg behind their head.
SPEAKER_1: So like you just turn your head at that point and give your thigh a good old lickin.
SPEAKER_1: Like a cat.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, I got it.
SPEAKER_1: What about licking your butt hole like a cat?
SPEAKER_3: No, no.
SPEAKER_3: No, I don't think TikTok's gonna allow that one.
SPEAKER_3: What about robots?
SPEAKER_3: Let's consider things that a robot could do that people couldn't.
SPEAKER_1: Right, all our craving solutions has to be robots.
SPEAKER_3: I mean, they don't have to be, but it's been a minute.
SPEAKER_3: When was the last time we solved something with a robot?
SPEAKER_3: So solution here, robot dance.
SPEAKER_3: It's a dance that only robots can do.
SPEAKER_3: But it seems possible, but it's not.
SPEAKER_1: So you have to do the robot.
SPEAKER_1: The new trend is the robot.
SPEAKER_3: Right, but it's a robot doing it.
SPEAKER_1: Where, but does this seem achievable then as a human?
SPEAKER_1: So it's everyone doing it wrong.
SPEAKER_3: Yes, that's what it has to be.
SPEAKER_3: It has to be everyone can do it, but they do it wrong.
SPEAKER_3: Speed running.
SPEAKER_3: Speed running is the new TikTok trend.
SPEAKER_1: Oh my God.
SPEAKER_3: And we just have it.
SPEAKER_3: Speed running TikToks?
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, speed running TikToks, sure.
SPEAKER_2: The new trend is speed run your TikToks.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, and no one will ever be able to do it as good as a robot who can speed run TikToks the most.
SPEAKER_1: Oh yeah, because a robot, it's like one frame.
SPEAKER_3: It's a two assisted speed run.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, uh-huh.
SPEAKER_3: In order to speed run TikTok, so first we have to make a game that could be speed ran.
SPEAKER_1: That you play on TikTok?
SPEAKER_3: That you play on TikTok.
SPEAKER_3: It's called TikToktoe.
SPEAKER_2: Shut up.
SPEAKER_3: It's called TikToktoe and-
SPEAKER_2: God damn it.
SPEAKER_1: You have to, okay, yeah, you have to like find the TikToks that are the same and then line them up with other TikToks and get like, you know, it's a three by three TikTok grid, but like the TikTok grid is itself a TikTok.
SPEAKER_3: Exactly.
SPEAKER_3: It's very, it's very difficult to do.
SPEAKER_3: You know, once you get the hang of it, you can try to do it, but you'll never be quite as fast at it as a robot.
SPEAKER_1: You have to get a three in a row TikTok toe of like three matching TikToks, but not the exact same TikTok.
SPEAKER_3: That's, yeah, it's just not doable.
SPEAKER_1: It seems so easy.
SPEAKER_1: You just need three of the same TikToks.
SPEAKER_1: You just gotta make three of the same TikToks frame by frame.
SPEAKER_3: And a robot can do that.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, you can't post the same TikTok.
SPEAKER_1: That's not a unique TikTok.
SPEAKER_3: But you have to be recreated frame by frame.
SPEAKER_3: Down to like the same time of day, the same like, everything has to be the same.
SPEAKER_1: But here's the thing, right?
SPEAKER_1: You have to get three different people doing the exact same thing.
SPEAKER_3: Ah, I see.
SPEAKER_3: And theoretically, you have to get more, right?
SPEAKER_3: Because you're playing TikTok toe.
SPEAKER_1: Exactly.
SPEAKER_3: And that means, yeah, so that's the challenge there is you're gonna have to get a whole bunch of people.
SPEAKER_3: And, you know, maybe someone does it in many, many years, right?
SPEAKER_3: But sure, a lot of people are gonna try.
SPEAKER_1: Tool-assisted TikTok.
SPEAKER_3: Tool-assisted TikTok.
SPEAKER_3: We did it, we did it.
SPEAKER_3: That actually the T-
SPEAKER_3: TikTok tat.
SPEAKER_3: It's, yeah, the T in TAS stands for TikTok.
SPEAKER_3: TikTok Assisted Speedrun.
SPEAKER_1: You gotta, we've had Twitch play Pokemon.
SPEAKER_1: Now we have to have TikTok play Pokemon.
SPEAKER_3: Holy shit.
SPEAKER_3: Oh, oh God.
SPEAKER_3: A trend where it's just one person doing one thing in a game and then the next person picks off from that point and continues on and the next person picks off from that point.
SPEAKER_3: That was possible, but difficult.
SPEAKER_3: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_3: Now, Clair, would you be willing to just, I would just like another craving from you.
SPEAKER_1: I have a craving that is kind of topical to what we're talking about, because my next craving is I want to be able to choose what the Let's Player does in their video game.
SPEAKER_3: Holy shit.
SPEAKER_3: I love this.
SPEAKER_1: I never watch Let's Plays, and the biggest reason for that is they don't do the right thing.
SPEAKER_1: They don't go the way I want them to go.
SPEAKER_1: But also, like, at that point, I might as well just be playing the video game.
SPEAKER_1: But also, that's the only reason, like, I would watch a Let's Play because I don't want to do the grindy part.
SPEAKER_1: I want to watch the 20-minute version where they grinded their level offscreen, and now they're back, and now I can control their character.
SPEAKER_1: It's like a choose-your-own-adventure.
SPEAKER_3: I don't, though.
SPEAKER_3: You want to play the game, but you want them to do the part that you don't want to do.
SPEAKER_1: Exactly.
SPEAKER_1: So, you know, I guess you never played Three Houses, but there's, like...
SPEAKER_3: No.
SPEAKER_1: Fire Emblem Three Houses does this thing where if you don't want to fight the fights, you can be, like, auto-fight, and it'll do the whole fight for you.
SPEAKER_1: And then also, like, you can auto-level, and you can, like, skip the cutscenes, and you can, like, basically pick and choose what parts of the game you want to play, which is, like, sick as hell.
SPEAKER_1: And I did all of the things.
SPEAKER_1: Like, I think that's why I got tired of it and only did one of the runs.
SPEAKER_1: Whereas I was like, I'm gonna pick exactly how everyone levels.
SPEAKER_1: I'm gonna pick exactly what classes everyone is.
SPEAKER_1: I'm gonna do every fight, even though it's repetitive.
SPEAKER_1: And then I, you know, after 80 hours, I was like, okay, I'm gonna go to the next game.
SPEAKER_1: I'm gonna, I think I'm gonna put this down for a bit.
SPEAKER_1: I want that, but in more games, and specifically Let's Plays.
SPEAKER_3: I like Let's Plays.
SPEAKER_3: I've watched Let's Plays for a long time.
SPEAKER_3: I watched less now, but I do enjoy often, like, the personality of the Let's Player.
SPEAKER_3: I like some of the jokes and bits and, like, interesting kind of commentary and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_3: But the thing that, like, really gets me with Let's Plays is when the person doesn't know what to do in the Let's Play, and I know what to do, or someone who's playing with them knows what to do, but isn't telling them or something, like...
SPEAKER_1: Does that bug you, or is that good?
SPEAKER_3: It bothers me.
SPEAKER_3: It bothers me severely.
SPEAKER_3: It's like, I'm like, come on, keep playing the game, get through, come on, keep doing it.
SPEAKER_1: See, I like when it's two people and one of them knows and has played the game before, and one of them is like new to it.
SPEAKER_1: And then it's like, if someone gets stuck, it's like, okay, I don't know what to do.
SPEAKER_1: And like, they're not bothered for asking for help because like they're on a video and it's like, oh, well, okay, you just go here next.
SPEAKER_1: I think that would be ideal.
SPEAKER_1: Maybe I just want more Let's Plays like that.
SPEAKER_3: I think that I definitely want more Let's Plays like that.
SPEAKER_3: The thing that bothers me is there are Let's Plays where it's that, except the person who doesn't know about just like, I wanna experience this stuff for myself.
SPEAKER_3: And so like, I'll only ask for help if I get really stuck, which is like a totally fair way to wanna experience a game.
SPEAKER_3: And a lot of people like that style of thing, right?
SPEAKER_3: Because they're there for the banter.
SPEAKER_3: But I'm like, I'm there for the banter and the game.
SPEAKER_1: Don't do that as a Let's Play then.
SPEAKER_1: Do that as like playing with your friend.
SPEAKER_3: No, but there are like people who like Let's Plays like that.
SPEAKER_3: There are like-
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I guess there's just people like us who just have a conversation and then post it on the internet.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, right?
SPEAKER_3: Like in general, you know, I don't wanna say that there is like a right or wrong way to do Let's Plays, to do videos, to play games.
SPEAKER_3: Because I think that there are ways of doing it that resonate differently with different people.
SPEAKER_3: But personally, it like bugs the hell out of me.
SPEAKER_3: And I wish like, come on, if you're stuck, just ask for help.
SPEAKER_1: Maybe we need a new service that focuses on like Let's Plays, but like categorizes the way people play more.
SPEAKER_1: Like how many people do you want in your Let's Play?
SPEAKER_1: Do you want them to talk or not?
SPEAKER_1: What kind of personality do you want?
SPEAKER_1: Like just commentary on like how the game was made or do you want like funny jokes?
SPEAKER_1: Like, yeah, I just want to be able to search Let's Plays via that.
SPEAKER_3: And then to help with your desire to have, to choose kind of what they do, there can be a choose your own adventure section, which is a series of videos in which you get to choose which path they go down, what decisions they make.
SPEAKER_3: Also, I think a great thing about this new service is we can just sort of screen out all of the shitheads because there's so many Let's Plays shitheads.
SPEAKER_1: Gamers are banned.
SPEAKER_1: We're just gonna start it off.
SPEAKER_1: Gamers are banned from this gaming website.
SPEAKER_3: It's so tough because it's like, I love watching Let's Plays and I love watching games and stuff.
SPEAKER_3: But like every time that I like, I'm like, okay, is this person, does this person suck?
SPEAKER_3: I'll like go and watch one of their videos and be like, God damn it.
SPEAKER_3: And so, you don't get to decide.
SPEAKER_3: So, we can just screen all of those out in our new cool site with No Gamers.
SPEAKER_1: Games no gamers.com.
SPEAKER_3: Games no gamers.com.
SPEAKER_3: Games no gamers dot gov.
SPEAKER_1: I'm pretty sure you can't actually legally buy a dot gov website.
SPEAKER_1: Dot game.
SPEAKER_1: Actually, I think that it's a dot game.
SPEAKER_1: It's no gamers dot game.
SPEAKER_3: No gamers dot game.
SPEAKER_3: Tell me about what the Chooser and Adventure thing specifically would be like.
SPEAKER_1: I think there's like, I can deal with a bit, right?
SPEAKER_1: Like some, I'm a hypocrite because when I play a game, and I actually try to do this less, but when I play a game, my immediate reaction is, oh, I wanna try and break the game.
SPEAKER_1: So I go and do all the things that I feel like I shouldn't do first.
SPEAKER_1: Like I'm gonna go walk to the edge of this map and see if you expected me to walk to the edge of this map.
SPEAKER_1: And you would be surprised.
SPEAKER_1: You'd be surprised how many game developers are like, yeah, the player is just gonna do what we expect them to do.
SPEAKER_3: Because probably most gamers are.
SPEAKER_3: Most gamers aren't like you.
SPEAKER_3: I don't try to break the game.
SPEAKER_3: I try to play the game.
SPEAKER_1: But at the same time, it's like, I don't wanna watch someone who plays the game like I play the game.
SPEAKER_1: The reason I would watch a Let's Play is, it's a game that I don't care enough about, where I would want to play the game and learn every little secret of the game, but I still have interest in it.
SPEAKER_1: An example of this is like Mother, Mother 2 and Mother 3.
SPEAKER_1: I watched Mother 1 Let's Play recently.
SPEAKER_1: It was awful, but I suffered through it.
SPEAKER_1: It was like four hours or something.
SPEAKER_1: And the Let's Player was bad, but there were no good Let's Plays for Mother 1.
SPEAKER_1: And then the best Let's Play for Mother 2 is kind of entertaining, but I dropped off and there was just a point where I was like, oh, this actually looks like an entertaining game.
SPEAKER_1: I want to play it.
SPEAKER_1: But then I realized it's kind of grindy.
SPEAKER_1: And so I put it down.
SPEAKER_1: And so now I've neither watched nor played Mother 2.
SPEAKER_1: I've only played like the first hour or two of it.
SPEAKER_3: I see another potential solution here.
SPEAKER_3: Let's say you wanted to be like, damn, I wish this Let's Player would make the choices I would make, would fit with who I am, would be the type of person I would want to see.
SPEAKER_3: Well, Clair, you got to become a Let's Player.
SPEAKER_2: God damn it, I knew you were going to say that.
SPEAKER_3: Salt Cravings Let's Plays, baby.
SPEAKER_1: Should we do a Let's Play?
SPEAKER_3: I don't know, maybe post podcast, we could talk about doing a Let's Play thing.
SPEAKER_3: That'd be fun.
SPEAKER_1: What if we just tried it out once?
SPEAKER_1: What would a game be that you'd want to Let's Play together?
SPEAKER_3: That's such a good question.
SPEAKER_3: Would we want to play a game that we've played before or not?
SPEAKER_3: That's my question.
SPEAKER_1: Maybe we could do the thing where one of us has played the game before.
SPEAKER_3: Sure.
SPEAKER_3: What's a game that one of us has played, but the other hasn't?
SPEAKER_1: I am currently playing through Indivisible, and I would love to watch you play through Indivisible.
SPEAKER_3: That sounds fun.
SPEAKER_3: I would actually love to play that game.
SPEAKER_3: I saw some talk about it recently.
SPEAKER_3: I would love to play that game.
SPEAKER_1: I've been following that game for five years and I got the code to download it like three or four days ago.
SPEAKER_1: So I've been very excited to play it, and I'm enjoying the first hour or two of the gameplay.
SPEAKER_3: I like that.
SPEAKER_3: Let's talk about maybe potentially actually doing this.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, we'll see that in the future.
SPEAKER_1: You know what?
SPEAKER_1: Hey, maybe we'll just become super popular Let's players, make all of our money, quit our jobs and become gamers.
SPEAKER_3: Professional gamers.
SPEAKER_3: That's the future of Salt Cravings.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, I cringed a little hoof.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, I think that's it for this craving.
SPEAKER_1: I need to stop thinking about becoming a professional gamer.
SPEAKER_3: It's coming, Clair.
SPEAKER_3: It's coming.
SPEAKER_1: The gamers are coming in a world where gamers rule.
SPEAKER_1: In a world run by gamers.
SPEAKER_1: Only one player, player one can win the day.
SPEAKER_3: They better get ready, player one.
SPEAKER_3: So, Clair, you know about Acne?
SPEAKER_1: Like the one that Road Runner would avoid, but the Coyote would like use to try and kill the Road Runner?
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, basically that.
SPEAKER_3: Except this little pimples and stuff on your face.
SPEAKER_3: Okay, I actually thought I got it for a second.
SPEAKER_3: No, Acne.
SPEAKER_3: This one kind of has a little bit of backstory.
SPEAKER_3: Basically, for a while, I was taking a medication called Spirognolactone, which I no longer take.
SPEAKER_3: One of the effects of Spirognolactone, ideally potentially like a side effect or something, was that it just gave me really good skin that never kind of broke out with Acne or anything like that.
SPEAKER_3: Now I don't take it anymore, and now I have Acne, and it bothers me, and I'm trying to find the right solution to it.
SPEAKER_3: I'm trying to figure out like, is the right call just no products?
SPEAKER_3: Is the right call some products, right?
SPEAKER_3: Like what is the solution?
SPEAKER_3: I don't want to do that.
SPEAKER_3: Because I like not having to pee all the time.
SPEAKER_3: So a lot of skincare culture is bullshit.
SPEAKER_3: A lot of it is like a lot of it is nonsense, and doesn't necessarily...
SPEAKER_1: It's just another market to make money off of.
SPEAKER_3: It's just another market to make money off of, and a lot of skincare products don't work at all.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, and some of them are actually really bad for you.
SPEAKER_1: Not just do nothing, but actively cause you to think you need more of them because they are harming you.
SPEAKER_3: But for some people, there are things that actually do help.
SPEAKER_3: And it's different for every person.
SPEAKER_3: And trying to find what actually helps is a very difficult thing, because you're trying to get around marketing and get around nonsense capitalism to actually find if there is a product that's going to work for you.
SPEAKER_3: Also, potentially damaging your skin as you go through that process of trying to figure that out.
SPEAKER_3: So, how do we make it so that one can instantly know what product, if any, is going to help their acne?
SPEAKER_1: Like we could make a litmus test?
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, I just want to say upfront, having acne is not necessarily a bad thing.
SPEAKER_3: I just don't like it, you know, that has personal feelings on it.
SPEAKER_3: I just want to say that up at the top.
SPEAKER_3: So, a litmus test.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: So, you know those pimple popper videos?
SPEAKER_1: So, we're going to make a product.
SPEAKER_1: It's a two-sided litmus test.
SPEAKER_1: If you don't remember your high school science, what a litmus test is, is you basically have your solution.
SPEAKER_1: For example, pimple juice.
SPEAKER_1: And then you have a litmus test paper, which you would put some of your solution on and it would change color accordingly, depending on the results you would want.
SPEAKER_1: So, we're going to make a two-sided litmus test paper where you pop your pimple into it and then you put the cream or the other solution, the pimple solution onto it.
SPEAKER_1: And it's going to have sort of a variety of colors.
SPEAKER_1: Like, you know, you pop your pimple onto it and then you put the juice, your product juice onto it, and it turns yellow and it's like, oh, this is just going to give you more acne.
SPEAKER_3: Uh, that's gross.
SPEAKER_3: And also, I just want to say pimple popping can actually cause acne scars.
SPEAKER_3: But let's ignore all of that and say this is a great idea.
SPEAKER_1: I had a pimple popping tool.
SPEAKER_3: I still have a pimple popping tool.
SPEAKER_3: A pimple popper pimple popping.
SPEAKER_3: I see.
SPEAKER_1: A pimple popper for pimple popping.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, that's an interesting idea.
SPEAKER_3: What if a robot could scan your face and tell you what the right...
SPEAKER_3: It just takes like...
SPEAKER_3: It just knows kind of...
SPEAKER_1: What if you just wore a robot face?
SPEAKER_3: What if you just...
SPEAKER_3: Hey, yeah, what if you're just like a robot?
SPEAKER_3: Wouldn't that be sweet?
SPEAKER_1: You know, okay, so you get this mask, and it's like a normal covers-your-face mask, except it sort of like...
SPEAKER_1: It's part machine, and then it like blends with your face perfectly, and it just gives you a new face.
SPEAKER_1: And so now we've defeated facial recognition technology because you can change what the face looks like every day, and so the facial recognition technologies used by the governments around the world will never know what you actually look like.
SPEAKER_3: Great.
SPEAKER_3: Perfect.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, right, acne.
SPEAKER_1: This was about acne.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, you know, whatever.
SPEAKER_1: You know, one thing I learned is that the facial recognition industry is suffering right now because apparently masks, it cannot recognize people with their masks on, and that is hurting the facial recognition technology sector.
SPEAKER_1: Anyways, the people I follow who are, you know, not awful in technology, keep retweeting the article that is talking about this being like, this is such a fucked up way to frame this.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, absolutely fucked up.
SPEAKER_3: I think, I see this as an absolute win.
SPEAKER_1: So what if we just covered our entire faces with acne, but like a different pattern of acne every day, and so facial recognition technology couldn't track us.
SPEAKER_1: It's called our acne mask.
SPEAKER_1: Ask, it's called a Macne, got it, got it.
SPEAKER_3: You got there in the end, you got there in the end.
SPEAKER_3: So how does this help my craving?
SPEAKER_1: You can give yourself cool little like spirally patterns of acne, and then it's cool and it's good.
SPEAKER_3: I feel like you missed the part where I said acne isn't inherently bad, I just don't like having acne.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, then you can pick the no acne setting.
SPEAKER_3: And let my face get recognized by the cops?
SPEAKER_3: No way.
SPEAKER_3: I'm just going to wear...
SPEAKER_1: Well Brianna, it's acne or cops, it's your choice.
SPEAKER_3: This is the binary of the future.
SPEAKER_3: Oh, there's only two genders, acne and cop.
SPEAKER_3: But everything is toxic.
SPEAKER_3: I'll just simply wear a different type of mask that doesn't have my face showing at all.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I think it's the same mask.
SPEAKER_1: You can program the mask to have no acne.
SPEAKER_1: I'm into that.
SPEAKER_3: No, it just won't show my face.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, okay, it's like an anonymous mask.
SPEAKER_3: No, it's not an anonymous mask.
SPEAKER_3: It is a different mask, it isn't an anonymous mask.
SPEAKER_3: No, absolutely, no.
SPEAKER_3: We don't need to, no, no.
SPEAKER_3: It's a cool mask, it's like a cool mask.
SPEAKER_1: It's the like, you know how the anonymous mask is like, it's like the theater kid twin mask thing or whatever where one of them is happy and one of them is sad.
SPEAKER_3: I love that you refer to them as the theater kid twin masks as opposed to the drama representation masks.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_1: So like the anonymous mask is the happy one, you just need the sad one.
SPEAKER_3: Why do I want the sad, I guess, I know, I don't think that that helps either.
SPEAKER_1: Because then you take it off and everyone's like, oh, I thought you were so sad, but you're actually, you're not, and so this is great.
SPEAKER_1: Or you are sad and you take it off and people are like, it's okay, because they were kind of expecting you were sad.
SPEAKER_1: And so they were like, we'll be there for you, because this is the future and empathy is cool, except there are cops who are like anti-empathy.
SPEAKER_1: This is why we live in the anti-cop side of things.
SPEAKER_3: What if empathy was illegal?
SPEAKER_1: You mean like in our world?
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
SPEAKER_3: I, you know, it's a tough time.
SPEAKER_3: Moving on.
SPEAKER_1: So it's not a mask?
SPEAKER_3: Are there non-mask options for this?
SPEAKER_1: Do you remember the like purple plastic Game Boy and Game Boy Advance and also like N64 controller?
SPEAKER_1: Let's see through purple plastic.
SPEAKER_1: What if that but a mask?
SPEAKER_3: I literally just said to you, what are the non-mask options for this?
SPEAKER_1: That's fair.
SPEAKER_1: I was trying to see if you would take to my like cool purple plastic.
SPEAKER_1: You can see the wires mask because I want that.
SPEAKER_3: I mean, I think that you should have the option to have that.
SPEAKER_3: I think you should have the option to do that with basically like your whole, all of your body, just everything.
SPEAKER_1: I'm just going to show off the circuits that run through my entire body.
SPEAKER_3: Yes, as you do.
SPEAKER_1: What if there was like a pair of glasses that when you put them on, it like Invisalign your face with anti-acne cream?
SPEAKER_1: You know Invisalign, the like invisible retainer?
SPEAKER_1: But like, what if that for your face?
SPEAKER_1: It's technically a mask, but it's not a mask.
SPEAKER_1: It's an InvisiMask.
SPEAKER_3: I was going to say, I love that this outfit is still technically a mask.
SPEAKER_3: I'm feeling it more than the others.
SPEAKER_1: Isn't like, if you put cream on your whole face, isn't that just a cream mask in the end?
SPEAKER_3: Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_3: It's called...
SPEAKER_3: Those exist.
SPEAKER_3: A cream mask?
SPEAKER_1: They're called cream masks?
SPEAKER_3: I don't think that...
SPEAKER_3: What are they called?
SPEAKER_1: They're called face masks.
SPEAKER_3: Yeah, they're just called face masks, which is weird because they're all face masks.
SPEAKER_1: Right?
SPEAKER_3: Every mask is a face mask.
SPEAKER_3: Wait, wait, wait.
SPEAKER_2: Can we talk about not face masks?
SPEAKER_3: What's a not face mask?
SPEAKER_3: Let's talk about...
SPEAKER_3: What about like an arm mask?
SPEAKER_3: Great, glad we went two different directions there.
SPEAKER_3: I mean, I think a titty mask is a bra, and I think an arm mask is a sleeve.
SPEAKER_1: We're just inventing clothing.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, so back to Acne.
SPEAKER_3: Oh, God.
SPEAKER_3: I can totally imagine someone trying to sell like clothing that fights Acne.
SPEAKER_2: It kind of reminds me.
SPEAKER_1: Did you see where someone reinvented the lunch hour during the pandemic where they were like, we gave our employees one hour to do whatever they wanted.
SPEAKER_1: And this is how we're promoting good health.
SPEAKER_3: There's so many moments of people in like tech reinventing things that everyone else has already been doing.
SPEAKER_1: This is what happens when you have like a high productive goal and like a lot of people who are just struggling to come up with concepts to try and make a quota.
SPEAKER_3: Well, if they can just get to work on some of our anti-acne robot products, that would be just super great.
SPEAKER_1: I still like the glasses that give you a little squirt every time you put them on your face.
SPEAKER_3: I am not certain about that one.
SPEAKER_3: I'm going to be honest with you.
SPEAKER_2: You don't want the squirt glasses?
SPEAKER_3: I don't know that I want the squirt glasses.
SPEAKER_1: We've had Google Glass.
SPEAKER_1: Now get ready for squirt glass.
SPEAKER_3: I don't see what it helps.
SPEAKER_3: I don't see how it helps.
SPEAKER_1: It helps your acne.
SPEAKER_1: How?
SPEAKER_1: I don't know.
SPEAKER_1: It gives you acne in the various ways that you want your acne, and in your case, that's none.
SPEAKER_3: So actually what it sounds like is that you decided to focus on the glasses part rather than the magic anti-acne cream, which is actually just what I want.
SPEAKER_1: I've figured it out.
SPEAKER_1: So do you know in Animal Crossing, you can like pick a tree up and then put it somewhere else?
SPEAKER_1: What if we just had a little like pimple shovel, an acne shovel where you could like take the pimple and put it somewhere else?
SPEAKER_1: Look, you're gonna...
SPEAKER_1: What do you want from me?
SPEAKER_1: You want to get rid of your acne?
SPEAKER_1: What do you want me to do?
SPEAKER_3: Where do you want me to put your acne?
SPEAKER_1: I have a pile of your acne here now and I need to put it somewhere.
SPEAKER_1: I've shoveled the acne off your face and I just have a pile of acne now.
SPEAKER_1: I need to put it somewhere.
SPEAKER_3: The thing that this would do is it would just make the acne worse because it's irritating the skin.
SPEAKER_1: That's the beautiful thing.
SPEAKER_1: Just like in Animal Crossing, you just kick the hole over and it's fine.
SPEAKER_3: And there's no damage at all.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, you pat the skin with the shovel and it closes the skin and it's soft and smooth.
SPEAKER_3: It makes it soft even.
SPEAKER_3: How painful is this?
SPEAKER_1: I mean, how painful is ripping up a tree?
SPEAKER_3: For the tree, probably pretty painful.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, probably pretty painful.
SPEAKER_3: Great.
SPEAKER_1: What's the price of no acne, Brianna?
SPEAKER_1: How much pain?
SPEAKER_1: What would you pain for an acne bar?
SPEAKER_3: Probably not that much, to be honest.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_1: Well, I guess you're gonna live with some acne now, I guess.
SPEAKER_3: I just love on our show that our solutions to problems always have some sort of monkey paw-esque, like, negative to them.
SPEAKER_3: Because it's too easy just to think that things could work out.
SPEAKER_1: Things don't just work.
SPEAKER_1: They always have bugs.
SPEAKER_1: Or their bugs are a feature.
SPEAKER_1: Maybe the pain is a feature.
SPEAKER_1: Maybe this is a solution for.
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SPEAKER_1: I think I can manage that.
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SPEAKER_3: Yeah, please it.
SPEAKER_1: Jesus Christ.