SPEAKER_1: Everybody just have a crave time.
SPEAKER_1: And we gon make you lose your cravings.
SPEAKER_1: Everybody just have a, a, a crave time.
SPEAKER_1: This is Salt Cravings.
SPEAKER_1: It's a podcast where we talk about our cravings, and then we solve them in the most efficient and effective and moral ways, and no other criteria.
SPEAKER_1: My name is Clair.
SPEAKER_2: And my name's Brianna, and welcome back to 2011.
SPEAKER_2: The, as you can tell, is why Party Rock Anthem is so topical.
SPEAKER_1: It's so topical, it's so topical.
SPEAKER_1: And we can, we can just get right into the cravings if you want, because my, wait, no, I don't start, I planned this whole thing being like, I'm gonna go into my first craving, cause it's relevant.
SPEAKER_1: Anyways, go ahead, it's your craving.
SPEAKER_1: I fucked up, I fucked up.
SPEAKER_1: We've been doing this show for 63 episodes, and I fucked up.
SPEAKER_2: I was prepared.
SPEAKER_1: Anyways, fuck, whatever.
SPEAKER_1: I don't even care anymore.
SPEAKER_1: I actually, I'm not even mad.
SPEAKER_1: I'm not owned, I'm not owned.
SPEAKER_1: Go ahead.
SPEAKER_2: I can't believe Clair fucked up so bad, she decided to just leave the podcast.
SPEAKER_2: Just, all right, you're on your own now.
SPEAKER_2: Well, I mean, I'm happy to jump in.
SPEAKER_2: And if you want to put a vibe here for a little bit longer, we can, but I'm happy to jump in.
SPEAKER_1: I'm good.
SPEAKER_2: All right.
SPEAKER_2: I guess, much like 2011, this is sort of a flashback, because we've done stuff along these lines several times.
SPEAKER_2: We've used it as a solution several times, but we've never addressed it directly, you see.
SPEAKER_1: I don't know.
SPEAKER_2: I want a queer heist to be.
SPEAKER_2: We've done heists.
SPEAKER_2: Now, Salt Cravings is inundated with heists.
SPEAKER_2: If you like heists, go listen to some of the previous episodes.
SPEAKER_2: We got some great ones.
SPEAKER_2: We're all about heists here at Salt Cravings.
SPEAKER_2: But we've never talked about the heist movie and the heist as a particular genre of film, because heist movies, I think, are a delight.
SPEAKER_2: I love a good heist movie.
SPEAKER_2: I love it when they outsmart the law and get away with it and it rules.
SPEAKER_2: The problem with heist movies is that they're often just a bunch of dudes.
SPEAKER_2: Usually, I don't know, like I love the Ocean series or whatever, but that's just a bunch of dudes doing things and then a bunch of straight women doing things.
SPEAKER_1: I've watched one Ocean's movie.
SPEAKER_1: I know there's 30 billion of them, but I've only seen one.
SPEAKER_1: What about Eleven?
SPEAKER_1: What about the first ten?
SPEAKER_1: Is this an in-movie reference that I'm just not getting because I haven't watched them?
SPEAKER_1: Are there not 12 of them?
SPEAKER_1: What do they do in Ocean's 1?
SPEAKER_1: Can we talk about Ocean's 1, the movie?
SPEAKER_2: I don't know whether you're joking or not right now.
SPEAKER_1: Well, see, I started not joking, and then your reaction told me I'm wrong, and so now I'm joking.
SPEAKER_1: So, tell me about Ocean's 1.
SPEAKER_2: Clair, the first Ocean's movie is Ocean's 11.
SPEAKER_1: Well, that's confusing, because where are the other 10 movies?
SPEAKER_1: We don't start with Sonic the Hedgehog 5.
SPEAKER_2: It's because there's 11 people involved in the crime.
SPEAKER_1: Thank you.
SPEAKER_1: That was the movie reason I was looking for.
SPEAKER_2: It's a reference to a 50s movie called Ocean's 11.
SPEAKER_2: It's a remake.
SPEAKER_2: Ocean's 11 is a remake of a 50s version of Ocean's 11, which I've seen.
SPEAKER_2: It starts like Frank Sinatra and a bunch of them, and then like, yeah, they remade it for Ocean's 11, and then they did Ocean's 11, 12, 13, and then...
SPEAKER_1: You understand my confusion then, where they did like 11, 12, and 13, and I'm like, oh yeah, okay, they're going...
SPEAKER_1: This is like Fast and the Furious 9 or whatever.
SPEAKER_1: You can't be like, there's no way they'd make 10 movies because Fast and the Furious 9 is like the 12th movie or something in that franchise.
SPEAKER_2: No, you're right.
SPEAKER_2: No, you're absolutely right.
SPEAKER_2: Listen, I understand the confusion, but it's also like, you...
SPEAKER_2: It's just so funny, you're like, what did they do with a...
SPEAKER_1: Tell me about the first Ocean's.
SPEAKER_1: It's just Ocean's.
SPEAKER_2: It's just Ocean's.
SPEAKER_2: It's just Ocean.
SPEAKER_2: It's just the Ocean's.
SPEAKER_2: I can't remember his first name.
SPEAKER_2: Can't remember his first name, but it's just him.
SPEAKER_2: It's just George Clooney.
SPEAKER_2: And he's just doing crimes.
SPEAKER_1: Queer Heist movie instead.
SPEAKER_1: So it's not about the Ocean, it's about the moon.
SPEAKER_1: So moon's five, and we're gonna just...
SPEAKER_1: We're starting...
SPEAKER_2: Well, I just wanna be clear about something, which is Ocean's 11 in the Ocean series is not about the Ocean.
SPEAKER_2: It's about a man named, I believe...
SPEAKER_1: Stealing things.
SPEAKER_2: What's his first name?
SPEAKER_1: Watersome, Ocean Watersome.
SPEAKER_2: 11 main character is...
SPEAKER_1: George Osen Watersome.
SPEAKER_2: Danny Ocean.
SPEAKER_2: It's about a man named Danny Ocean and his...
SPEAKER_1: His name is Ocean.
SPEAKER_1: That's fucked up if you think about it.
SPEAKER_1: So this is about Paisley Moon and...
SPEAKER_2: God, we can't, we can't, we can't.
SPEAKER_2: They already did a heist.
SPEAKER_2: We have to do our own unique heist with queers, and we're gonna rob something cool.
SPEAKER_1: Okay, what are the key elements of a heist movie that you want to hone in on?
SPEAKER_1: Because I feel like the...
SPEAKER_1: For me, the few heist movies that I've seen, clearly none of them being Ocean's 25 and a half, I've...
SPEAKER_1: It's like high tension.
SPEAKER_1: There always has to be that moment where it's like, oh shit, this is it, they're gonna get caught.
SPEAKER_1: There's the like, oh shit, they actually failed moment.
SPEAKER_1: They actually like, there's no, like, they fucked up and now it's being taken away from them.
SPEAKER_1: And then it's like the double and they actually, they planned for it the whole time.
SPEAKER_1: And you have that recap of like, no, actually we were good.
SPEAKER_1: We were faking it the whole time and you're wrong, you stupid viewer.
SPEAKER_1: And those are the big ones that stand out to me.
SPEAKER_1: What are they for you?
SPEAKER_1: What are we focusing on?
SPEAKER_2: One of the things that I do enjoy about the Ocean series and in general, I do enjoy about heist movies is assembling a crew is always great in the Ocean's movies.
SPEAKER_2: That's one of the best things that they do.
SPEAKER_2: It's like, we've got this expert, this expert.
SPEAKER_2: We've got to get Mickey Mouse, Scooby-Doo, the experts.
SPEAKER_2: Right.
SPEAKER_2: It's like, it's like you're, you know, I am, I just adore when there's a bunch of weirdos who are all really good at specific things, teaming up to do a thing that uses all of their skills.
SPEAKER_2: And therefore, the Ocean's movies-
SPEAKER_1: Like the Avengers.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_2: Like Avengers, but they do crime.
SPEAKER_2: So Avengers.
SPEAKER_2: Yes.
SPEAKER_2: Ha ha ha ha ha.
SPEAKER_2: But I do genuinely love that sort of thing.
SPEAKER_2: I love to see the planning and the like, like the vibe of, you know, they did some gathering, you know, the way that works in Forza Dark Games, you know, you see some gathering information, you see some like initial plan, but you don't know all the details of the plan until the tilts and stuff starts to go wrong.
SPEAKER_2: And then eventually you realize they were prepared for this all along.
SPEAKER_1: So it's like jump to the action, just like in Forza the Dark, it's like, all right, don't sweat the details, jump to the action, you prepared for this the whole time.
SPEAKER_2: I like when there's a bit of setup and then a jump to the action without necessarily having everything set up.
SPEAKER_2: I like the setup to be like character based stuff, like, oh yeah, this helps us to develop kind of what the central tensions and characters and stuff while we're setting up for the heist.
SPEAKER_2: I don't want it to be, and this is a problem with the original Ocean's Eleven from the 50s, is most of the movie is prep.
SPEAKER_2: And then it's just, and that's not what I want.
SPEAKER_2: I want to jump into the action pretty soon.
SPEAKER_1: You know what rules in a heist movie for me is when it's a voiceover, they're making the plan, but they're doing it at the same time.
SPEAKER_1: And it's like, you're going to do this.
SPEAKER_1: And it's like, we see the person doing it.
SPEAKER_1: And then something goes wrong.
SPEAKER_1: It's like, and then this person's going to do this and they do something completely different.
SPEAKER_1: It's like, what?
SPEAKER_1: Shit.
SPEAKER_1: What do we do?
SPEAKER_1: Oh God.
SPEAKER_1: And then we're in it.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah.
SPEAKER_2: A good flashback is always good, also.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, flashbacks.
SPEAKER_1: I'm realizing that heist movies are just Forged in the Dark games.
SPEAKER_2: Specifically, Blades in the Dark is trying to replicate a heist movie.
SPEAKER_2: And I love that.
SPEAKER_2: I also just, I want to see it on screen, you know?
SPEAKER_2: I want to see the gays do crime on screen.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: So what makes the heist movie for queers unique?
SPEAKER_2: Obviously, there's like always, there's a lot of the time, there's romantic tensions underlying parts of the heist that is like a thing, you know?
SPEAKER_2: Like Ocean's Eleven is like the place they're robbing.
SPEAKER_2: They're robbing it because the casino owner is like in a relationship with the main dude's ex-wife.
SPEAKER_2: And he wants to win her back or whatever.
SPEAKER_2: And it's kind of gross.
SPEAKER_1: We just get rid of that middle part.
SPEAKER_1: It's just, he's in a relationship with the casino owner.
SPEAKER_2: Love that.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, in the Ocean's Eight movie, the one with all the gals, there's like the, her ex-partner is like shitty, and she's like using him as a fall guy, basically, for her scheme.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, and then in other like heist things, you know, I think there's a lot of times where there is this romantic tension happening.
SPEAKER_2: So that's one way that it can be unique to queers.
SPEAKER_2: Another way is everyone looks really cool, because only queers know how to do that.
SPEAKER_1: So that's important.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, no, of course.
SPEAKER_1: I just want to roll back to the first point you made, because I just want to throw out a scene for all of our enjoyment of mixing two elements of two of the members of the team are clearly into each other.
SPEAKER_1: But you know how lesbians can never say that they're into each other, but they're very clearly into each other, and everyone can tell that, except it's a high-stakes situation, and they both have to hide in a very small closet in order to get past a guard or something, and they have to just be chill for five seconds.
SPEAKER_1: But how do you be chill when you are literally pressed up against the person that you have this affection for for the last, I guess, two hours that you've known them because it's a heist movie and you just met each other?
SPEAKER_2: I love that.
SPEAKER_1: That's in our heist movie.
SPEAKER_1: Copyright, copyright.
SPEAKER_1: We'll sue you, obviously.
SPEAKER_2: Here's the thing.
SPEAKER_2: Here's the thing that I...
SPEAKER_2: Yes, we're so legal in that way.
SPEAKER_2: We're so legally minded in that way.
SPEAKER_1: We're gonna use our Salt Cravings money.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, all our lawyers that we have, for sure.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, our salty lawyers.
SPEAKER_2: All our salty lawyers.
SPEAKER_1: Can we rob lawyers?
SPEAKER_1: Can the movie be about robbing a law firm?
SPEAKER_2: God, that's...
SPEAKER_2: I feel like I need more spectacle than that.
SPEAKER_2: I think it's always a good time to steal from the government.
SPEAKER_2: You know National Treasure?
SPEAKER_2: I don't know.
SPEAKER_2: That could be a cool thing to steal, is the Declaration of Independence, but not that, but something else.
SPEAKER_1: We're going to invite, so it's all queers, and then we also have Nick Cage.
SPEAKER_2: No, he's not there.
SPEAKER_1: He's in the background.
SPEAKER_2: He gets killed immediately.
SPEAKER_1: He's in every background.
SPEAKER_1: Nobody understands why Nick Cage was in every scene of this movie, but never referenced, never has a speaking role, never does anything except just walks across the background.
SPEAKER_2: Incredible.
SPEAKER_2: Super good.
SPEAKER_2: God, what is like cool and fun and gay to steal?
SPEAKER_1: Someone's heart.
SPEAKER_2: An art piece.
SPEAKER_2: Ooh.
SPEAKER_1: For someone.
SPEAKER_2: What if you have to steal a bunch of paintings to prove that an artist was gay?
SPEAKER_1: What if you have to steal the moon?
SPEAKER_2: We went to different places.
SPEAKER_2: How would you steal a moon?
SPEAKER_1: I'm going to shoot the moon with a laser beam to show my love.
SPEAKER_1: I'm going to carve a heart into the moon.
SPEAKER_1: Now I'm just going evil, evil gay scientist is where I've gone.
SPEAKER_1: Tell me about your thing.
SPEAKER_2: You have to steal a whole bunch of art pieces to prove that an artist was gay and also probably to get money for them to do some good thing.
SPEAKER_1: This is like the weirdest scene in Legally Blonde where it's like, of course, they're gay, they stole a bunch of art pieces, they're stealing a bunch of art from the Louvre or some equivalent to the Louvre.
SPEAKER_2: If we can't get the rights, I don't know why we wouldn't be able to.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, art, you know, art, you know what is an art piece is instruments.
SPEAKER_1: What if you stole a bunch of like high value instruments from like an orchestra chamber 30 minutes before people started showing up?
SPEAKER_2: Right, I see.
SPEAKER_1: But someone shows up early, of course, because they're nervous.
SPEAKER_2: Stealing an orchestra is the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard.
SPEAKER_2: That's really good.
SPEAKER_2: And it's like, oh, yeah, this is like the most important, you know, concert or whatever in the world.
SPEAKER_2: And so they're playing on like these famous, you know, beautiful instruments that are the most expensive instruments in the world or whatever.
SPEAKER_2: And so we have to we're trying to steal it, because this is the only time that they'll be outside of the vault that they're kept in.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, like climate sealed vault.
SPEAKER_2: So this is this is, you know, us having to steal it right before, you know, in the like five minute period when they're put on stage before the people get the chance to come on to them or to steal them after the tuning or whatever the whatever the fuck.
SPEAKER_1: There's like a short window.
SPEAKER_1: It's like we have to create a distraction.
SPEAKER_1: We have to hope that distraction works.
SPEAKER_1: We got to have a backup distraction, except we don't have the backup distraction.
SPEAKER_1: The backup distraction happens.
SPEAKER_2: Also, I know where we're stealing it from.
SPEAKER_1: The Sydney Opera House with the water.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, we got a scene.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, of course.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, a water heist is is underrated, I think.
SPEAKER_1: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_2: We love a water heist.
SPEAKER_2: I think that at least part of this crew, I've decided should be a polycule who all have very specific skills and work perfectly and work really well in tandem with one another.
SPEAKER_1: Is one of the members of the polycule, the person who has a crush on this other person and the other two are like, just go ask her, just go ask her.
SPEAKER_2: Like you can do it.
SPEAKER_1: And she's like, no, no, no, we have more important things to do.
SPEAKER_1: This won't interfere, I promise.
SPEAKER_2: That's fun.
SPEAKER_2: But I also am down with the like the idea of there's these three and then there's these other two who are who are like crossing on each other.
SPEAKER_2: Because you got to have like a big old cast, right?
SPEAKER_2: You can't reuse concepts, you know, you only got so much time to introduce.
SPEAKER_1: We'll have to make two movies is what I'm hearing.
SPEAKER_1: They'll be sequels.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah.
SPEAKER_1: Moons 420 and Moons 69.
SPEAKER_2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_1: 420 is the first one.
SPEAKER_2: Because it's the characters last name is Four and there are 20 fucking queers that they've got on their fucking crew.
SPEAKER_2: Because it's that big of a heist.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, the main person is a is just one of those queers who knows everyone and so has all these contacts to pull from, knows 20 people who'd be down to do a heist and who they trust to do a heist.
SPEAKER_1: I think with queers, it would be easier to know people who would want to do a heist.
SPEAKER_2: But would it be easier to know people you would trust to do a heist?
SPEAKER_1: That's true.
SPEAKER_1: That is a that is an important criteria.
SPEAKER_2: Like I wouldn't trust me to do a heist.
SPEAKER_1: No, I would.
SPEAKER_1: Don't invite me on your heist.
SPEAKER_1: I would fuck it up.
SPEAKER_2: Don't invite either of us on your heist.
SPEAKER_2: We have a podcast.
SPEAKER_1: This is why we're making a movie about it.
SPEAKER_1: So we don't have to be in it.
SPEAKER_2: Because it definitely didn't happen.
SPEAKER_2: Don't look into it.
SPEAKER_2: Don't look into the thievery of the expensive instruments of the Sydney Opera House.
SPEAKER_2: Of course, there's like super intense security.
SPEAKER_2: And yeah, I do like the idea of the main person does have a crush on whoever is organizing this concert and is like sees this as an off or like, are there exes or something, you know?
SPEAKER_1: I love a good rival ex tension.
SPEAKER_2: Rival exes, one of them became like rich and powerful and ended up being able to organize this concert.
SPEAKER_2: And so the like person's personal investment in it is they want to get back at this person.
SPEAKER_1: Can we have the like last-minute like realization that the ex wasn't actually like the actually the ex gets in on the heist?
SPEAKER_2: Right.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah.
SPEAKER_2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_2: No, there has to come a point where someone who the heist was against gets in on the heist.
SPEAKER_2: There's like a moment where it's like, can't believe you're stealing from me.
SPEAKER_2: And it's like, listen, I'm just here as no, I know that you're stealing from me.
SPEAKER_2: I can't believe you didn't ask me to be part of it.
SPEAKER_1: You know, I have a specialty in acrobatics.
SPEAKER_1: I could have, I could have gotten through so many doors without being noticed.
SPEAKER_2: But we're doing the heist against you.
SPEAKER_2: I don't own these instruments.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_1: Exactly.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, it's perfect.
SPEAKER_1: And it's a great cover because they were just renting them.
SPEAKER_1: And it's like, how could I have known there was going to be a giant heist?
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, uh-huh.
SPEAKER_1: It's so perfect.
SPEAKER_1: I took out insurance, so I get all the insurance money now.
SPEAKER_2: I feel like we could do better than 420 as a title, but also maybe we can't.
SPEAKER_2: What if it's like the Sydney Opera Heist?
SPEAKER_2: What about just like the Conductor or something?
SPEAKER_1: It's the Conductor, because I mean, the Conductor is the ex.
SPEAKER_2: And the Conductor is also the person in charge of the heist, you know?
SPEAKER_2: So it's just the Conductor, and it's unclear which one is the actual Conductor here.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, they're rival Conductors.
SPEAKER_2: They're rival Conductors.
SPEAKER_2: I mean, I don't know that the main person is literally a Conductor, but they are conducting the heist.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, I see.
SPEAKER_1: I got it.
SPEAKER_1: I got what you're saying.
SPEAKER_1: But also, what if they're rival Conductors, but one of them quit and became a professional thief, because, you know, when your ex is a Conductor, and you fell in love with them, and you're a Conductor, but you fell out of love, so you fell out of love with the job, and so you turn to a life of thievery, and get back at your ex, who is a Conductor, so you conduct a...
SPEAKER_2: We've all done it.
SPEAKER_1: We've all done it.
SPEAKER_1: That's really just a queer story.
SPEAKER_2: I think there actually is a movie called The Conductor out here, but no, there isn't.
SPEAKER_2: It's ours now.
SPEAKER_1: If you're a movie and you're called The Conductor, no, you aren't.
SPEAKER_2: No, you aren't.
SPEAKER_2: Heart.
SPEAKER_2: Clair, do you want to give me the craving that you had set up so well?
SPEAKER_1: All right, it's time to go back to Craving Rock, because my craving is about pre-gaming.
SPEAKER_1: I want to go to a pre-game.
SPEAKER_1: A pre-game, holy shit.
SPEAKER_1: The second best part of a party is the party.
SPEAKER_1: The first best part of the party is the pre-game.
SPEAKER_2: Why is this the most true thing I've ever heard?
SPEAKER_2: It's so real.
SPEAKER_1: Because the pre-game is the excuse to see the people you want to go to the party with.
SPEAKER_1: And it's like, all right, if nothing else, we're just going to lump together, and we're just going to be awkward at this party together.
SPEAKER_1: So at least let's get all, let's like, let's get ready.
SPEAKER_1: Let's do our makeup.
SPEAKER_1: Let's like, have too many shots.
SPEAKER_1: Also, if you're going to like an event instead of a house party, it's like, all right, let's get as drunk as possible so we don't have to buy the $20 vodka crayon that like has a half a shot in it.
SPEAKER_1: And then you're just helping each other on the bus and whatnot.
SPEAKER_2: The only time I went to like a, just a straight club or whatever the fuck, I was with some friends of mine who are fantastic.
SPEAKER_2: And we met up at one of their houses to like pregame a little bit.
SPEAKER_2: And as soon as I got here, they're the other two who were with me.
SPEAKER_2: And they were sort of like, yeah, we noticed there's like a 24 hour Denny's near the club.
SPEAKER_2: It's like, oh, huh.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah.
SPEAKER_2: And that sort of escalated.
SPEAKER_2: And by the time we were done pregaming and we were on the bus and on our way there, we had convinced ourselves that we were going to go to the club for an hour and then go to the 24 hour Denny's and have that be the main thing.
SPEAKER_2: We stayed for about two hours.
SPEAKER_2: So shout outs to us.
SPEAKER_2: Damn, that's perseverance.
SPEAKER_2: That's the sort of thing that comes about when pregaming is like, God, I actually don't care about, I just want to hang out with y'all.
SPEAKER_2: And I just want to like spend time with y'all.
SPEAKER_2: Like, I love a pregame.
SPEAKER_2: I love a post party.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, you're right.
SPEAKER_1: I was wrong.
SPEAKER_1: The party isn't the second best thing at a party.
SPEAKER_1: The party is the third best thing.
SPEAKER_1: The second best thing is the post after party.
SPEAKER_2: The event itself is never the most exciting.
SPEAKER_2: Listen, okay, no.
SPEAKER_2: Here's my theory.
SPEAKER_2: The best is the pre-gaming.
SPEAKER_1: Of course.
SPEAKER_2: Second best is the exact moment you enter the party because you look cool as hell.
SPEAKER_1: Uh-huh, it's the entrance.
SPEAKER_2: And everyone's like, yo, hey, it's you, I love you.
SPEAKER_2: And you're like, hey, I love you.
SPEAKER_2: And you're like, look at all the clothes.
SPEAKER_1: It's like all of your outfits look so good.
SPEAKER_1: My outfit looks so good.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, it's amazing.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, and then post-party is the next best.
SPEAKER_2: The fourth best part of the party is whenever you order food, when the food gets there.
SPEAKER_2: Though actually the worst part is when you order food, the best part is when the food gets there.
SPEAKER_2: And then the rest of the party is like below that.
SPEAKER_1: The worst part is ordering food because you have to coordinate like eight different people.
SPEAKER_1: Oh my God.
SPEAKER_1: Can you just pass the computer down around?
SPEAKER_1: I'm kind of busy right now.
SPEAKER_1: Can you just read me the menu, please?
SPEAKER_2: Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_2: So it's like so ordering food is the worst part, but getting food is maybe one of the one of the highlights.
SPEAKER_1: It's it's up there.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_1: Doing shots together.
SPEAKER_2: Doing shots together is pretty good and a good suggestion.
SPEAKER_1: Doing shots together.
SPEAKER_1: Very close.
SPEAKER_2: Yes.
SPEAKER_1: The morning after for for the times that y'all just are like, all right, we're all too far.
SPEAKER_1: I'm thinking about like parties that are really far away brunch, where it's like, all right, we're all just passing out at this party and then we're going to go to brunch the next day.
SPEAKER_2: So we know now know the order of things.
SPEAKER_2: In which there's above the party is pre-gaming, the after party, the morning after and then the party.
SPEAKER_1: The food arrives, the arrival of people.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, the party is above ordering food.
SPEAKER_1: I will give party that.
SPEAKER_2: Ordering food is the low point of the party.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, uh-huh.
SPEAKER_1: That's the party hierarchy.
SPEAKER_1: The party hierarchy of needs, if you will.
SPEAKER_2: I will not, but continue.
SPEAKER_1: So, yeah, in terms of how to pre-game, it's pretty hard without parties.
SPEAKER_1: I haven't done a lot of pre-gaming at all because there haven't been parties to go to.
SPEAKER_1: I guess there have, but I'm not invited to those parties because they're by people who I would not party with.
SPEAKER_2: I might have a solution.
SPEAKER_1: Oh, please.
SPEAKER_2: Have I yet introduced to this podcast The Tuesday Party?
SPEAKER_2: Have I mentioned The Tuesday Party on this podcast?
SPEAKER_1: I don't think you have.
SPEAKER_1: You should tell us about The Tuesday Party.
SPEAKER_2: Sometimes you and your roommate don't have work, and so time loses all meaning.
SPEAKER_2: So in order to keep yourselves from dying, you come up with the concept of The Tuesday Party.
SPEAKER_2: So The Tuesday Party is very simple.
SPEAKER_2: Every Tuesday, you have a party.
SPEAKER_2: Here is what The Tuesday Party entails.
SPEAKER_2: You usually watch something, or one of you can play a video game, and the other watches and does commentary, or play a video game together.
SPEAKER_2: Doesn't have to be something good.
SPEAKER_2: It can be something fun, because the other crucial parts about this, you're allowed to drink if you want.
SPEAKER_2: You don't have to, but you're allowed to.
SPEAKER_2: And the most important part of this, you either have to make a really nice meal together, or if you just don't have it in you, you've got to order some food.
SPEAKER_2: You've got to do something nice for yourself in terms of the eating.
SPEAKER_2: And then you just spend the night and watch some things, and eat some good food, and maybe drink a little bit, and vibe.
SPEAKER_2: And that's what Tuesday Party is all about.
SPEAKER_2: But the crucial part of the Tuesday Party is the community and the friendship.
SPEAKER_2: And so Tuesday Party is kind of like a pregame, but it is a party.
SPEAKER_2: So you could totally do a pregame to the Tuesday Party.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I was going to ask, like, what is the Tuesday Party pregame?
SPEAKER_2: I mean, traditionally, it's the making of the food, but that's also kind of the party itself.
SPEAKER_2: So you could pregame Tuesday Party if you like go grocery shopping for the food.
SPEAKER_2: That's not a very exciting pregame.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, but suddenly the party is better than the pregame.
SPEAKER_2: How do you make a pregame better than a Tuesday Party?
SPEAKER_2: I mean, it's difficult because the Tuesday Party is the best thing.
SPEAKER_2: You can make the Tuesday Party the pregame for a Zoom party, and that way it'll definitely be better than the Zoom party.
SPEAKER_2: That doesn't make me sad.
SPEAKER_2: Right?
SPEAKER_2: You can also do the other thing potentially, which is what I did for Valentine's Day with Ash, which was one of you makes a meal and then you like give that person part of the other meal to take back with them, and then you eat it together on like a call.
SPEAKER_2: It's a little sad, but it works as a, you know, it could work in that way.
SPEAKER_2: I know pre-games are not traditionally about eating, but that's, to me, that could work.
SPEAKER_1: Pre-games are about eating once the food arrives.
SPEAKER_2: Alternatively, socially distanced pre-game.
SPEAKER_2: When cases go down and we're allowed to see each other again, sit in a park, six feet apart from each other, and just throw alcohol at each other to pre-game.
SPEAKER_1: This is going a completely different direction.
SPEAKER_1: Please go on.
SPEAKER_2: No, it's just saying you just start tossing it to each other, you know, like, hey, can I have a beer?
SPEAKER_2: And then you're just throwing it to him and like feed away.
SPEAKER_1: I feel like I'm splashing each other with vodka or something.
SPEAKER_2: That's not a pre-game.
SPEAKER_1: But you're like, you're like, you know, you could like...
SPEAKER_2: But you can like do your makeup or whatever.
SPEAKER_2: Can't really do your hair because you don't have electrical outlets.
SPEAKER_2: Someone brings an external battery, you're good.
SPEAKER_2: What if we could all ascend to a party realm, you know, that would be cool.
SPEAKER_1: Party Rock is not in the house tonight because we're descending to the realm.
SPEAKER_2: That's where they've been.
SPEAKER_2: That's what they've been doing.
SPEAKER_2: They were, they had to...
SPEAKER_2: Listen, they apologized for party rocking because they realized what was to come and they realized that everyone would want to party rock when the quarantine came.
SPEAKER_2: And so now, to atone for their sins of party rocking, they've made the party dimension.
SPEAKER_2: That was their last album, was Sorry for Party Rocking.
SPEAKER_1: But are they genuinely sorry?
SPEAKER_1: I guess if they're genuinely sorry, then they can make the party realm.
SPEAKER_2: I mean, of course they're genuinely sorry.
SPEAKER_2: They never released another song.
SPEAKER_2: They've changed their behavior.
SPEAKER_2: They're more sorry for party rocking than most people are for things they get called out for.
SPEAKER_1: Damn.
SPEAKER_2: Because they actually changed their behavior.
SPEAKER_2: LMFAO, in the end, proved in the powers...
SPEAKER_1: It was all of us laughing out loud together.
SPEAKER_2: Of growth.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, of growth and change.
SPEAKER_1: I think I'm good on the pregame.
SPEAKER_1: I'm going to ascend to the party rock realm.
SPEAKER_1: So I'm happy with my party rock pregame.
SPEAKER_1: Do you want to give us the next Craving?
SPEAKER_2: One of the things that Quarantine has made me think about is how big a small gesture can be.
SPEAKER_2: How the various forms of communication things can take.
SPEAKER_2: And, you know, it's made me very thankful for our kind of ability to do video calls and that sort of thing.
SPEAKER_2: It is very helpful, but it's boring.
SPEAKER_2: It sucks.
SPEAKER_2: We need to embellish our communication more.
SPEAKER_2: I say we need to return to the epistolary tradition to not only writing letters to each other, but writing those letters in a way that was like really, so it's really exciting to get a letter.
SPEAKER_2: And it's like a beautifully done piece of paper with like cool ink and cool designs and maybe a wax seal.
SPEAKER_2: This is a thing that my girlfriend did for me for Valentine's Day.
SPEAKER_2: It was very sweet, very cute.
SPEAKER_2: She wrote me some letters and stuff.
SPEAKER_2: And it's made me think we should all be doing this.
SPEAKER_2: This rules.
SPEAKER_2: This is great.
SPEAKER_2: I think we should all get back into the epistolary tradition.
SPEAKER_1: You're goddamn right.
SPEAKER_1: I've been exchanging letters with my grandmother because she has an iPad and doesn't know that not everybody can FaceTime because FaceTime is the video calling for iPhones.
SPEAKER_1: So we've been exchanging letters.
SPEAKER_1: Totally.
SPEAKER_1: I feel this.
SPEAKER_1: It's very exciting to get a letter from my grandmother.
SPEAKER_1: It's probably not the same as getting a letter from your girlfriend, but definitely not the same.
SPEAKER_2: But it is exciting, nevertheless.
SPEAKER_2: I really do love receiving a letter.
SPEAKER_2: I love sending a letter.
SPEAKER_2: And I also think that there's a certain value in very olden days.
SPEAKER_2: There would be things like people would put a bit of perfume on a letter that they were sending so that it would remind the receiver of them.
SPEAKER_2: Or they'd have a custom wax seal, or they would make sure to do things in really clean handwriting, or they'd use not only the front of the letter, but also the side of the letter and the back of the letter to really save paper.
SPEAKER_2: And I just think there's all these really cool flourishes and traditions that you just don't get with sending someone a store-bought card.
SPEAKER_2: And I'm not saying that that's bad, because I also do that shit.
SPEAKER_2: But what if we all got really into letter writing?
SPEAKER_2: I just think that would be cool.
SPEAKER_2: I want someone to exchange fucking Regency-style letters with.
SPEAKER_2: Can we just do that as our podcast now?
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, that's the podcast now.
SPEAKER_1: Sign up your mailing address, and we'll just mail you a letter every month.
SPEAKER_2: Since we're replacing the podcast, we'll need to mail them two letters a month.
SPEAKER_1: That's true, that's true.
SPEAKER_1: We're going to become the green sisters, but instead of making video blogs at each other, we make letters at each other, and I guess we just read them out.
SPEAKER_2: That is what we do now.
SPEAKER_1: So what would be your seal?
SPEAKER_1: If you had like a custom ornate seal?
SPEAKER_2: Oh, I think flowers are always good.
SPEAKER_2: I wouldn't mind like a daisy or something.
SPEAKER_2: I think that's cute.
SPEAKER_2: A good heart, you always gotta love a good heart.
SPEAKER_2: A clone trooper helmet, since I'm obsessed with clones these days.
SPEAKER_1: It's a heart on the clone trooper helmet.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah.
SPEAKER_2: What would yours be though?
SPEAKER_2: Tell me what yours...
SPEAKER_2: I mean, mine could also just be like a very fancy bee.
SPEAKER_2: You know, that could be neat.
SPEAKER_1: What would be mine?
SPEAKER_1: You know the very simple Aries symbol where it kind of just looks like an M, but if you chopped off the outer two legs...
SPEAKER_1: Actually, I had this as a...
SPEAKER_1: Hey, gay moment.
SPEAKER_1: I had a couple's tattoo idea of putting the Aries symbol on a D20 where the 20 goes, and then that would be my stamp.
SPEAKER_2: That's cute.
SPEAKER_1: So it's a D20 with the Aries symbol on it.
SPEAKER_2: I think it'd be cool for us to have a Salt Cravings wax seal.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I mean, of course.
SPEAKER_1: This would be our official Salt Cravings seal that we send out to all our secret admirers that we have on the show.
SPEAKER_2: So many.
SPEAKER_2: Thousands.
SPEAKER_1: Hundreds of thousands.
SPEAKER_1: Absolutely.
SPEAKER_1: And it tastes like salt.
SPEAKER_1: So you know those scratch and sniff things, except if you smell or lick, it sounds like salt.
SPEAKER_2: That's it.
SPEAKER_2: That's the thing.
SPEAKER_1: I want scratch and sniff on these letters.
SPEAKER_1: You said perfume, but what if we could more easily...
SPEAKER_2: Scratch and sniff is basically the modern day perfume.
SPEAKER_1: Right?
SPEAKER_1: But what if you could tell a story?
SPEAKER_1: It was like I was in the park, and I had a really nice time walking through the park, and then at the end of the sentence, you have a little thing that you scratch, and there's a nature smell that you get off of it.
SPEAKER_1: And then the next sentence is like, and then I saw some birds, and they were like, I don't know, and then you scratch another thing and it actually starts tweeting at you.
SPEAKER_1: I'm including sound.
SPEAKER_1: It's scratch and tweet.
SPEAKER_1: Scratch and sound.
SPEAKER_1: It's scratch and tweet.
SPEAKER_2: My question then becomes, how are you engineering scratch and sniff this excessively that people can just make their own?
SPEAKER_1: That is the difficulty, right?
SPEAKER_2: Right.
SPEAKER_2: How are you?
SPEAKER_2: Right.
SPEAKER_2: Because here's the thing, and one of the reasons why I think we no longer write really extravagant, unnecessary letters.
SPEAKER_2: We just don't have the traditions.
SPEAKER_2: Because I don't think it's like something, it's just like, oh, people are too much on their phones.
SPEAKER_2: It's like, how would you even go about making a wax seal?
SPEAKER_2: How would you even go about learning calligraphy?
SPEAKER_2: This is a thing that back in the day, obviously it was very gendered, but it was a thing that women would spend many hours doing and practicing and getting better at is writing specific letters.
SPEAKER_1: And also class divide, right?
SPEAKER_2: And also class divide.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, yeah, to be clear, again, this is very much an upper class thing because of the cost of materials.
SPEAKER_2: I will say letter writing was fairly common across classes, but it was definitely less ornate.
SPEAKER_2: Right, it was definitely less ornate and less.
SPEAKER_2: It was like a form of communication.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, more of a practical thing rather than an artistic thing.
SPEAKER_2: But I think at this point, it could be an artistic thing for everyone.
SPEAKER_1: You know?
SPEAKER_1: You want the art.
SPEAKER_1: You want the art of talking to each other.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, you know, I like that.
SPEAKER_2: I like unnecessary extravagant letter.
SPEAKER_2: So we need really the materials, we need the tools and the teachings of how to do this sort of thing.
SPEAKER_2: Because I think that if you give people the ability to do it, I feel like I know enough queers who would just start doing it, who would just start sending letters.
SPEAKER_2: I've seen enough games pop up on its.io or in bundles and stuff that are about sending things in the mail to each other.
SPEAKER_2: So how are we reviving letter writing industry and making it accessible for all?
SPEAKER_2: We're just gonna do it.
SPEAKER_1: The solution is we're just gonna do it also.
SPEAKER_2: Say it.
SPEAKER_2: Say your idea.
SPEAKER_2: Say the bad thing.
SPEAKER_1: Instead of ink, which is a non-renewable resource, we can use cum.
SPEAKER_2: Why did you go to cum?
SPEAKER_2: Why did you tell me to say it?
SPEAKER_2: Blood was right there.
SPEAKER_2: We do blood shit all the time on this podcast.
SPEAKER_1: I just think if you got like a black sheet of paper, it could be, it could be artistic.
SPEAKER_2: I think you could, with cum, write a letter that can only be seen under UV light, which I guess is beneficial, sort of.
SPEAKER_1: This is Hannibal Nectar.
SPEAKER_2: Stop, stop, I'm going to kill you.
SPEAKER_2: I'm going to come through with, I'm going to send you a letter that kills you.
SPEAKER_2: You're going to scratch and sniff it, and it's going to be arsenic.
SPEAKER_2: It's the smell of death.
SPEAKER_2: I don't really think ink was the thing that I was thinking would be the stopping point, the sticking point, to one could say, the sticky point.
SPEAKER_2: I was more thinking it might be the wax seal or the scratch and sniff.
SPEAKER_1: That probably makes more sense, yeah.
SPEAKER_2: And I don't think you can do a wax seal with cum.
SPEAKER_1: Well, if you get enough of it.
SPEAKER_2: Do you think like, I don't even want to say this, because I don't want to bring this possibility into the world.
SPEAKER_1: I mean, you could, though.
SPEAKER_2: Do you think there was like a pornographic letter writing tradition in which you would mix a little bit of your cum into the wax?
SPEAKER_1: There has to be.
SPEAKER_2: Right?
SPEAKER_2: That has to have been a thing, right?
SPEAKER_2: Can you imagine cumming on the letter?
SPEAKER_1: Because it's like, I don't have perfume, but babe, please accept what I do have.
SPEAKER_1: This is the worst.
SPEAKER_2: Cravings no longer relevant.
SPEAKER_2: I no longer want anyone to write any letters ever again.
SPEAKER_1: I'm so good at ruining all your cravings.
SPEAKER_2: Anyway, if anyone wants to do normal letter writing back and forth, let me know.
SPEAKER_1: And on that note, cumming is normal, just a relevant note.
SPEAKER_1: But anyways, yeah, right, Brianna, a lot of letters that are normal.
SPEAKER_1: Do not, hey, do not involve cum in any letters which you write to me.
SPEAKER_2: I don't want cum to be involved.
SPEAKER_2: We don't need to have cum be a part of the new letter writing tradition that I'm starting, the new epistolary tradition.
SPEAKER_2: There's no place to put cum in the word epistolary, and neither is there a place to put-
SPEAKER_1: There's no cum, but there is piss.
SPEAKER_1: So, what you couldn't-
SPEAKER_2: The epistolary tradition.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, that's actually totally fine with me, weirdly.
SPEAKER_2: Cum is bad, but piss is good.
SPEAKER_2: That's actually totally fine with me.
SPEAKER_2: All bodily fluids are bad, except piss.
SPEAKER_2: That's a thing that I definitely believe and think is totally true.
SPEAKER_2: And yeah, uh-huh.
SPEAKER_1: Ava Fab.
SPEAKER_2: All bodily functions are bastards?
SPEAKER_1: All bodily fluids are bad.
SPEAKER_2: All bodily fluids are bad.
SPEAKER_2: Don't involve bodily fluids in any letters you're writing, unless that's a consensual thing you two have discussed.
SPEAKER_1: Then it's all bodily fluids are beautiful.
SPEAKER_1: The same acronym.
SPEAKER_2: Same acronym, two meanings, two sides of a coin.
SPEAKER_1: Two sides of the bodily fluid.
SPEAKER_2: Hey, just a quick question before we move on to the next craving.
SPEAKER_2: Is your next craving going to include a mention or focus on any bodily fluids that...
SPEAKER_1: I mean, maybe you could tell me if it does, because my next craving is sitting in a room with a bunch of people and just being able to listen to the conversation without having to interject anything.
SPEAKER_1: So it could, depending on the conversation.
SPEAKER_2: But I don't think it needs to.
SPEAKER_2: I don't think it needs to.
SPEAKER_2: I think we can move on.
SPEAKER_1: Maybe you're sitting in a room and it's an orgy, but you're just kind of sitting there.
SPEAKER_2: I think that's called voyeurism.
SPEAKER_2: I think that's called voyeurism is the thing that you're describing.
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, there's a word.
SPEAKER_1: There is a word for it.
SPEAKER_1: But yeah, my craving is the experience of just like, you know, when you're in a big room, and the conversation just has a life of its own, and it just flows, unlike how conversations on video calls happen, where inevitably it feels like there's more silence on video calls than there is in real life conversations.
SPEAKER_1: And I don't know what's up with that.
SPEAKER_2: I think because we're all aware that if we're going to talk, we run the risk of completely interrupting someone.
SPEAKER_2: And so we're really hesitant to speak.
SPEAKER_2: We like want to give the other person a chance to...
SPEAKER_2: Again, I'm sure if you're along like a call with a bunch of like, Cishet white dudes, they probably are just like, it's probably just...
SPEAKER_1: Yeah, I mean, I am on a lot of those calls at work.
SPEAKER_1: There's a lot less silence and there's a lot more people cutting each other off really is the only difference.
SPEAKER_1: It's less fear about that.
SPEAKER_1: We're going to be analyzing these past years for years, if not decades to come, and then we're going to come to the decades.
SPEAKER_2: How many solutions to the existence of a pandemic and a need to quarantine can we come up with?
SPEAKER_2: We've come up with so many.
SPEAKER_1: But here's the thing.
SPEAKER_1: We don't have to be in a big room.
SPEAKER_1: I just want to...
SPEAKER_1: So the actual end of this craving, I'll just read the craving verbatim, because I like the craving, is sitting in a room with other people, all having a big conversation you get to listen to, and then in brackets, thanks podcast, because I could just listen to podcasts, and it's like all my friends are in the room with me.
SPEAKER_2: Podcasts do provide that.
SPEAKER_1: I was going to say, we are a podcast, and we could try and replicate this for the viewer, listener, viewers.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, why don't we just have a conversation?
SPEAKER_1: Just have a conversation.
SPEAKER_2: This is it, okay.
SPEAKER_2: We're just going to spontaneously have a conversation.
SPEAKER_2: Very spontaneously.
SPEAKER_1: You ever have a conversation for like an hour, and then as soon as you're like, all right, let's have a conversation.
SPEAKER_1: It's just like, what do we have a conversation about?
SPEAKER_2: So I'm really excited for the game tomorrow.
SPEAKER_2: You were saying that you had some thoughts.
SPEAKER_2: We're thinking you might want to go into the other world.
SPEAKER_2: That's what you were thinking.
SPEAKER_1: Ah, the other world with Rain, yes.
SPEAKER_1: So, God, can you remind me?
SPEAKER_1: We were doing a thing where we were sneaking into this laboratory and we all got caught or something.
SPEAKER_2: Where things are at is, so there's this government organization called DOOR, and they want to open up a doorway into the other world called Ergira, which is this hub world of all these different types of people.
SPEAKER_2: They were kidnapping people, knew about this other world in order to try to get information out of them to see if they could find a lead on who might be able to just have the ability to go between these worlds at will.
SPEAKER_2: They didn't get the information which exists, which is, of course, that Big Ear Ernegsten Tax exists, who is a person who can go between worlds at will.
SPEAKER_2: Y'all broke in to the door base to rescue people.
SPEAKER_2: You got them out.
SPEAKER_2: And since then, it's been sort of like, okay, well, they're planning stuff.
SPEAKER_2: Y'all had to rescue some people from an abandoned theme park, which was like this other group of cultists who know a lot about this world and are from this world.
SPEAKER_1: And now at this point, you've just discovered that one of the people involved in Door, the head scientist, is actually from Argyra, which I'm really excited about because I fucked her over real hard last time and taunted her and then almost killed her by blowing up her laboratory or something.
SPEAKER_1: That was really funny.
SPEAKER_1: She was so easy to push over.
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, that's going to be fun with you and with her.
SPEAKER_2: But yeah, so at this point, y'all are about to get more detail on her whole deal.
SPEAKER_2: And then basically, it's going to be up to y'all to be like, well, how do you want to go about this from here?
SPEAKER_2: Do you want to try what you were suggesting, like go into Argyra and try and rescue the gear there before they can get at her?
SPEAKER_2: Or do you want to try and go after Door and try to stop them before they can get to her?
SPEAKER_2: Or do you want to wait and see what happens and react?
SPEAKER_2: Do you want to pursue this lead with this scientist lady, or do you want to do something else entirely?
SPEAKER_2: There's all these various options.
SPEAKER_2: That's sort of what I was thinking about.
SPEAKER_1: There are so many options.
SPEAKER_1: What do you think?
SPEAKER_1: Are you listening?
SPEAKER_2: Yeah, you listening.
SPEAKER_2: What do you think?
SPEAKER_2: We were just actually just wondering, we are still deciding this and obviously the rest of the crew is still deciding this.
SPEAKER_2: And obviously by the time you hear this, it's probably good.
SPEAKER_2: It'll have been decided.
SPEAKER_1: We just want your input.
SPEAKER_1: We just want to include you.
SPEAKER_1: We're all in this room together.
SPEAKER_1: Having this fun time together as friends.
SPEAKER_2: Answer now.
SPEAKER_1: Answer right now.
SPEAKER_1: That's a good answer.
SPEAKER_2: That's a really good answer.
SPEAKER_1: I think I'm going to do that.
SPEAKER_1: You heard that, right?
SPEAKER_1: I think that's going to be what I do tomorrow.
SPEAKER_2: Then I know what to prep for.
SPEAKER_2: That's awesome.
SPEAKER_1: All right, well, I guess with that, my craving has been solved, and we can go back into the party rock.
SPEAKER_2: I hope that wasn't just like super fucking boring to listen to.
SPEAKER_1: I mean, it was probably like the rest of our podcast.
SPEAKER_1: The entire podcast was us having a conversation.
SPEAKER_1: We have the conversation so that you can sit in your room alone and be like, haha, they're my friends.
SPEAKER_1: And we are.
SPEAKER_1: Believe us.
SPEAKER_1: We're your friends.
SPEAKER_1: Keep listening.
SPEAKER_2: I don't think we should encourage parasocial relationships.
SPEAKER_2: JK, what if we do?
SPEAKER_2: You're our best friends.
SPEAKER_1: We don't support parasocial relationships.
SPEAKER_1: This is a real relationship.
SPEAKER_1: We invite you to be in our friendship.
SPEAKER_2: I'm ready to die right now.
SPEAKER_1: Craving Rock has leaving the house tonight.
SPEAKER_1: It's walking out the door, and it is leaving us behind, because we have to end this podcast.
SPEAKER_2: Thanks for listening to Salt Cravings.
SPEAKER_1: Thanks for listening to Salt Cravings.
SPEAKER_1: That's it.
SPEAKER_2: Goodbye.
SPEAKER_1: We're going to hit record now.
SPEAKER_1: No, I'm sorry for Craving Rocking.
SPEAKER_1: Hey everybody, I need to make a formal apology.
SPEAKER_1: I'm sorry for Craving Rocking.
SPEAKER_1: It was irresponsible, and you know, we had a lot of fun there in the Craving Rock Zone, but now we got to end it.
SPEAKER_1: And so if you want to find us outside the Craving Rock Zone, you could head over to social media on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram at Salt Cravings.
SPEAKER_1: Or if you want to, you know, get into the party rock zone, hey friend, you want to send us a Craving of yours?
SPEAKER_1: Hey friend, send us a Craving of yours.
SPEAKER_1: You can do that at submissions at saltcravings.com.
SPEAKER_1: You could also just tweet at us, Facebook at us, or Instagram at us what your Cravings are, and we'll do them, because you're our special friend here on the show that we will do just for you.
SPEAKER_1: And no one else, just you.
SPEAKER_1: You're special.
SPEAKER_2: And if you really want to solidify your totally real and definitely not parasocial friendship with us, you can leave a rating or review on your podcast platform of choice.
SPEAKER_2: Give us five stars if you're really our friend.
SPEAKER_1: If you're really our friend, only real friends, give us five stars, which you are.
SPEAKER_2: We can't guilt trip or manipulate people.
SPEAKER_2: That's not that's not that's not friendly behavior.
SPEAKER_1: But friends support friends.
SPEAKER_1: That's why you'll go to give us five star ratings.
SPEAKER_2: Alternatively, you could go to the links in the description to donate or support folks who need it.
SPEAKER_1: Those are our friends.
SPEAKER_1: And they're your friends by extension.
SPEAKER_2: Oh my god, that's not...
SPEAKER_1: Don't forget to give your friends money.
SPEAKER_1: They're in the links below.
SPEAKER_2: Keep an eye out for more info on our...
SPEAKER_1: On the livestream.
SPEAKER_1: July 1st to 4th, keep an eye out.
SPEAKER_1: It's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_2: We're probably gonna start asking who wants to be a part of it.
SPEAKER_2: And that should be fun.
SPEAKER_1: And we'll ask you, friendo, cause you're our friend.
SPEAKER_2: No, we're not.
SPEAKER_1: Only friends on the stream.
SPEAKER_1: But you're our friend, we promise.
SPEAKER_2: I don't even know where the outro went in there.
SPEAKER_1: It was somewhere in there, it was somewhere in there.
SPEAKER_2: Oh, good, great, we love podcasting.
SPEAKER_2: Sorry for podcasting.
SPEAKER_1: That's the real sequel to Sorry to Party Rocking, and sorry for podcasting.