WEBVTT 00:00:29.305 --> 00:00:32.305 Everybody just have a crave time. 00:00:32.925 --> 00:00:35.945 And we gon make you lose your cravings. 00:00:36.325 --> 00:00:39.545 Everybody just have a, a, a crave time. 00:00:40.285 --> 00:00:41.445 This is Salt Cravings. 00:00:41.525 --> 00:00:49.465 It's a podcast where we talk about our cravings, and then we solve them in the most efficient and effective and moral ways, and no other criteria. 00:00:49.905 --> 00:00:50.785 My name is Clair. 00:00:51.365 --> 00:00:53.785 And my name's Brianna, and welcome back to 2011. 00:00:54.945 --> 00:00:59.645 The, as you can tell, is why Party Rock Anthem is so topical. 00:01:00.785 --> 00:01:03.325 It's so topical, it's so topical. 00:01:03.345 --> 00:01:14.625 And we can, we can just get right into the cravings if you want, because my, wait, no, I don't start, I planned this whole thing being like, I'm gonna go into my first craving, cause it's relevant. 00:01:14.645 --> 00:01:16.445 Anyways, go ahead, it's your craving. 00:01:16.465 --> 00:01:18.045 I fucked up, I fucked up. 00:01:18.265 --> 00:01:21.685 We've been doing this show for 63 episodes, and I fucked up. 00:01:23.765 --> 00:01:24.925 I was prepared. 00:01:25.085 --> 00:01:26.365 Anyways, fuck, whatever. 00:01:26.385 --> 00:01:27.405 I don't even care anymore. 00:01:27.405 --> 00:01:29.285 I actually, I'm not even mad. 00:01:29.305 --> 00:01:31.005 I'm not owned, I'm not owned. 00:01:31.245 --> 00:01:31.765 Go ahead. 00:01:34.825 --> 00:01:40.005 I can't believe Clair fucked up so bad, she decided to just leave the podcast. 00:01:41.245 --> 00:01:42.985 Just, all right, you're on your own now. 00:01:46.185 --> 00:01:48.545 Well, I mean, I'm happy to jump in. 00:01:48.565 --> 00:01:52.745 And if you want to put a vibe here for a little bit longer, we can, but I'm happy to jump in. 00:01:52.845 --> 00:01:53.445 I'm good. 00:01:55.025 --> 00:01:55.445 All right. 00:01:55.785 --> 00:02:03.285 I guess, much like 2011, this is sort of a flashback, because we've done stuff along these lines several times. 00:02:03.305 --> 00:02:08.805 We've used it as a solution several times, but we've never addressed it directly, you see. 00:02:08.825 --> 00:02:09.285 I don't know. 00:02:09.305 --> 00:02:12.405 I want a queer heist to be. 00:02:12.785 --> 00:02:13.545 We've done heists. 00:02:14.245 --> 00:02:16.705 Now, Salt Cravings is inundated with heists. 00:02:18.285 --> 00:02:21.225 If you like heists, go listen to some of the previous episodes. 00:02:21.245 --> 00:02:22.225 We got some great ones. 00:02:22.245 --> 00:02:24.645 We're all about heists here at Salt Cravings. 00:02:25.045 --> 00:02:37.525 But we've never talked about the heist movie and the heist as a particular genre of film, because heist movies, I think, are a delight. 00:02:38.425 --> 00:02:40.085 I love a good heist movie. 00:02:40.085 --> 00:02:44.785 I love it when they outsmart the law and get away with it and it rules. 00:02:46.445 --> 00:02:50.525 The problem with heist movies is that they're often just a bunch of dudes. 00:02:51.365 --> 00:03:01.065 Usually, I don't know, like I love the Ocean series or whatever, but that's just a bunch of dudes doing things and then a bunch of straight women doing things. 00:03:01.305 --> 00:03:03.285 I've watched one Ocean's movie. 00:03:03.305 --> 00:03:07.365 I know there's 30 billion of them, but I've only seen one. 00:03:09.805 --> 00:03:10.725 What about Eleven? 00:03:11.085 --> 00:03:12.245 What about the first ten? 00:03:17.145 --> 00:03:20.905 Is this an in-movie reference that I'm just not getting because I haven't watched them? 00:03:20.925 --> 00:03:23.245 Are there not 12 of them? 00:03:26.645 --> 00:03:27.925 What do they do in Ocean's 1? 00:03:34.407 --> 00:03:36.667 Can we talk about Ocean's 1, the movie? 00:03:36.867 --> 00:03:39.327 I don't know whether you're joking or not right now. 00:03:40.087 --> 00:03:46.847 Well, see, I started not joking, and then your reaction told me I'm wrong, and so now I'm joking. 00:03:47.027 --> 00:03:49.047 So, tell me about Ocean's 1. 00:03:49.127 --> 00:03:53.087 Clair, the first Ocean's movie is Ocean's 11. 00:03:54.027 --> 00:03:58.107 Well, that's confusing, because where are the other 10 movies? 00:03:58.907 --> 00:04:01.527 We don't start with Sonic the Hedgehog 5. 00:04:01.867 --> 00:04:05.687 It's because there's 11 people involved in the crime. 00:04:05.727 --> 00:04:06.267 Thank you. 00:04:06.287 --> 00:04:09.387 That was the movie reason I was looking for. 00:04:09.407 --> 00:04:12.187 It's a reference to a 50s movie called Ocean's 11. 00:04:12.967 --> 00:04:14.387 It's a remake. 00:04:14.487 --> 00:04:17.667 Ocean's 11 is a remake of a 50s version of Ocean's 11, which I've seen. 00:04:17.687 --> 00:04:26.407 It starts like Frank Sinatra and a bunch of them, and then like, yeah, they remade it for Ocean's 11, and then they did Ocean's 11, 12, 13, and then... 00:04:26.747 --> 00:04:33.287 You understand my confusion then, where they did like 11, 12, and 13, and I'm like, oh yeah, okay, they're going... 00:04:33.307 --> 00:04:36.807 This is like Fast and the Furious 9 or whatever. 00:04:37.067 --> 00:04:45.447 You can't be like, there's no way they'd make 10 movies because Fast and the Furious 9 is like the 12th movie or something in that franchise. 00:04:45.467 --> 00:04:46.107 No, you're right. 00:04:46.167 --> 00:04:47.227 No, you're absolutely right. 00:04:47.227 --> 00:04:51.127 Listen, I understand the confusion, but it's also like, you... 00:04:51.687 --> 00:04:54.467 It's just so funny, you're like, what did they do with a... 00:04:56.447 --> 00:04:57.887 Tell me about the first Ocean's. 00:04:58.147 --> 00:04:59.287 It's just Ocean's. 00:05:00.127 --> 00:05:01.287 It's just Ocean's. 00:05:01.407 --> 00:05:02.347 It's just Ocean. 00:05:02.407 --> 00:05:04.467 It's just the Ocean's. 00:05:04.487 --> 00:05:05.767 I can't remember his first name. 00:05:05.787 --> 00:05:07.867 Can't remember his first name, but it's just him. 00:05:08.307 --> 00:05:09.547 It's just George Clooney. 00:05:10.127 --> 00:05:11.947 And he's just doing crimes. 00:05:11.987 --> 00:05:13.367 Queer Heist movie instead. 00:05:13.387 --> 00:05:15.227 So it's not about the Ocean, it's about the moon. 00:05:15.487 --> 00:05:17.967 So moon's five, and we're gonna just... 00:05:17.987 --> 00:05:18.787 We're starting... 00:05:18.807 --> 00:05:26.247 Well, I just wanna be clear about something, which is Ocean's 11 in the Ocean series is not about the Ocean. 00:05:26.927 --> 00:05:29.427 It's about a man named, I believe... 00:05:29.447 --> 00:05:30.147 Stealing things. 00:05:30.167 --> 00:05:31.067 What's his first name? 00:05:31.927 --> 00:05:34.167 Watersome, Ocean Watersome. 00:05:34.447 --> 00:05:36.407 11 main character is... 00:05:38.107 --> 00:05:39.307 George Osen Watersome. 00:05:39.327 --> 00:05:40.207 Danny Ocean. 00:05:40.227 --> 00:05:42.187 It's about a man named Danny Ocean and his... 00:05:42.207 --> 00:05:43.407 His name is Ocean. 00:05:43.547 --> 00:05:45.187 That's fucked up if you think about it. 00:05:45.507 --> 00:05:48.247 So this is about Paisley Moon and... 00:05:48.267 --> 00:05:50.767 God, we can't, we can't, we can't. 00:05:50.787 --> 00:05:52.027 They already did a heist. 00:05:52.207 --> 00:06:00.147 We have to do our own unique heist with queers, and we're gonna rob something cool. 00:06:00.167 --> 00:06:04.027 Okay, what are the key elements of a heist movie that you want to hone in on? 00:06:04.047 --> 00:06:05.767 Because I feel like the... 00:06:06.267 --> 00:06:15.167 For me, the few heist movies that I've seen, clearly none of them being Ocean's 25 and a half, I've... 00:06:15.807 --> 00:06:17.187 It's like high tension. 00:06:17.207 --> 00:06:20.467 There always has to be that moment where it's like, oh shit, this is it, they're gonna get caught. 00:06:20.727 --> 00:06:24.007 There's the like, oh shit, they actually failed moment. 00:06:24.027 --> 00:06:28.727 They actually like, there's no, like, they fucked up and now it's being taken away from them. 00:06:28.727 --> 00:06:32.087 And then it's like the double and they actually, they planned for it the whole time. 00:06:32.107 --> 00:06:34.947 And you have that recap of like, no, actually we were good. 00:06:35.087 --> 00:06:37.887 We were faking it the whole time and you're wrong, you stupid viewer. 00:06:38.587 --> 00:06:40.167 And those are the big ones that stand out to me. 00:06:40.187 --> 00:06:41.187 What are they for you? 00:06:41.567 --> 00:06:42.467 What are we focusing on? 00:06:42.487 --> 00:06:51.067 One of the things that I do enjoy about the Ocean series and in general, I do enjoy about heist movies is assembling a crew is always great in the Ocean's movies. 00:06:51.087 --> 00:06:52.827 That's one of the best things that they do. 00:06:52.887 --> 00:06:55.607 It's like, we've got this expert, this expert. 00:06:55.627 --> 00:06:58.487 We've got to get Mickey Mouse, Scooby-Doo, the experts. 00:06:59.247 --> 00:06:59.607 Right. 00:06:59.747 --> 00:07:12.607 It's like, it's like you're, you know, I am, I just adore when there's a bunch of weirdos who are all really good at specific things, teaming up to do a thing that uses all of their skills. 00:07:12.867 --> 00:07:13.847 And therefore, the Ocean's movies- 00:07:13.867 --> 00:07:14.527 Like the Avengers. 00:07:15.367 --> 00:07:16.067 Yeah, yeah. 00:07:16.127 --> 00:07:18.527 Like Avengers, but they do crime. 00:07:18.547 --> 00:07:19.907 So Avengers. 00:07:20.327 --> 00:07:21.107 So Avengers. 00:07:21.127 --> 00:07:21.347 Yes. 00:07:21.407 --> 00:07:21.967 Yes. 00:07:21.987 --> 00:07:23.507 Ha ha ha ha ha. 00:07:23.527 --> 00:07:25.847 But I do genuinely love that sort of thing. 00:07:26.127 --> 00:07:43.567 I love to see the planning and the like, like the vibe of, you know, they did some gathering, you know, the way that works in Forza Dark Games, you know, you see some gathering information, you see some like initial plan, but you don't know all the details of the plan until the tilts and stuff starts to go wrong. 00:07:43.587 --> 00:07:46.987 And then eventually you realize they were prepared for this all along. 00:07:47.007 --> 00:07:55.767 So it's like jump to the action, just like in Forza the Dark, it's like, all right, don't sweat the details, jump to the action, you prepared for this the whole time. 00:07:55.787 --> 00:08:00.247 I like when there's a bit of setup and then a jump to the action without necessarily having everything set up. 00:08:00.267 --> 00:08:09.987 I like the setup to be like character based stuff, like, oh yeah, this helps us to develop kind of what the central tensions and characters and stuff while we're setting up for the heist. 00:08:10.187 --> 00:08:15.327 I don't want it to be, and this is a problem with the original Ocean's Eleven from the 50s, is most of the movie is prep. 00:08:15.867 --> 00:08:19.927 And then it's just, and that's not what I want. 00:08:19.947 --> 00:08:22.267 I want to jump into the action pretty soon. 00:08:22.427 --> 00:08:29.487 You know what rules in a heist movie for me is when it's a voiceover, they're making the plan, but they're doing it at the same time. 00:08:29.507 --> 00:08:30.967 And it's like, you're going to do this. 00:08:31.007 --> 00:08:33.047 And it's like, we see the person doing it. 00:08:33.187 --> 00:08:34.307 And then something goes wrong. 00:08:34.327 --> 00:08:37.507 It's like, and then this person's going to do this and they do something completely different. 00:08:37.527 --> 00:08:38.067 It's like, what? 00:08:38.327 --> 00:08:38.687 Shit. 00:08:38.807 --> 00:08:39.427 What do we do? 00:08:39.627 --> 00:08:40.207 Oh God. 00:08:41.047 --> 00:08:43.127 And then we're in it. 00:08:43.207 --> 00:08:43.947 And then we're in it. 00:08:44.007 --> 00:08:44.667 Yeah. 00:08:44.707 --> 00:08:46.487 A good flashback is always good, also. 00:08:46.507 --> 00:08:47.907 Oh, flashbacks. 00:08:48.347 --> 00:08:51.647 I'm realizing that heist movies are just Forged in the Dark games. 00:08:52.067 --> 00:08:55.127 Specifically, Blades in the Dark is trying to replicate a heist movie. 00:08:55.587 --> 00:08:56.407 And I love that. 00:08:56.807 --> 00:08:59.167 I also just, I want to see it on screen, you know? 00:08:59.187 --> 00:09:05.107 I want to see the gays do crime on screen. 00:09:05.167 --> 00:09:05.407 Yeah. 00:09:05.527 --> 00:09:08.647 So what makes the heist movie for queers unique? 00:09:09.227 --> 00:09:18.027 Obviously, there's like always, there's a lot of the time, there's romantic tensions underlying parts of the heist that is like a thing, you know? 00:09:18.047 --> 00:09:21.487 Like Ocean's Eleven is like the place they're robbing. 00:09:21.547 --> 00:09:26.567 They're robbing it because the casino owner is like in a relationship with the main dude's ex-wife. 00:09:27.487 --> 00:09:29.207 And he wants to win her back or whatever. 00:09:29.227 --> 00:09:29.707 And it's kind of gross. 00:09:29.727 --> 00:09:31.787 We just get rid of that middle part. 00:09:31.847 --> 00:09:34.867 It's just, he's in a relationship with the casino owner. 00:09:35.847 --> 00:09:36.447 Love that. 00:09:36.707 --> 00:09:50.067 Yeah, in the Ocean's Eight movie, the one with all the gals, there's like the, her ex-partner is like shitty, and she's like using him as a fall guy, basically, for her scheme. 00:09:50.387 --> 00:09:56.527 Yeah, and then in other like heist things, you know, I think there's a lot of times where there is this romantic tension happening. 00:09:56.547 --> 00:09:58.667 So that's one way that it can be unique to queers. 00:09:59.267 --> 00:10:03.627 Another way is everyone looks really cool, because only queers know how to do that. 00:10:03.667 --> 00:10:04.647 So that's important. 00:10:04.667 --> 00:10:05.367 Yeah, no, of course. 00:10:05.507 --> 00:10:19.107 I just want to roll back to the first point you made, because I just want to throw out a scene for all of our enjoyment of mixing two elements of two of the members of the team are clearly into each other. 00:10:19.127 --> 00:10:35.907 But you know how lesbians can never say that they're into each other, but they're very clearly into each other, and everyone can tell that, except it's a high-stakes situation, and they both have to hide in a very small closet in order to get past a guard or something, and they have to just be chill for five seconds. 00:10:36.507 --> 00:10:47.187 But how do you be chill when you are literally pressed up against the person that you have this affection for for the last, I guess, two hours that you've known them because it's a heist movie and you just met each other? 00:10:47.207 --> 00:10:47.967 I love that. 00:10:48.007 --> 00:10:48.687 I love that. 00:10:48.747 --> 00:10:49.907 That's in our heist movie. 00:10:50.227 --> 00:10:51.427 Copyright, copyright. 00:10:51.847 --> 00:10:53.447 We'll sue you, obviously. 00:10:54.167 --> 00:10:54.867 Here's the thing. 00:10:54.907 --> 00:10:55.667 Here's the thing that I... 00:10:57.467 --> 00:11:00.067 Yes, we're so legal in that way. 00:11:00.087 --> 00:11:01.487 We're so legally minded in that way. 00:11:01.507 --> 00:11:03.207 We're gonna use our Salt Cravings money. 00:11:04.447 --> 00:11:06.227 Yeah, all our lawyers that we have, for sure. 00:11:06.247 --> 00:11:07.727 Yeah, our salty lawyers. 00:11:08.347 --> 00:11:09.127 All our salty lawyers. 00:11:09.147 --> 00:11:09.847 Can we rob lawyers? 00:11:10.167 --> 00:11:12.247 Can the movie be about robbing a law firm? 00:11:13.167 --> 00:11:13.827 God, that's... 00:11:14.527 --> 00:11:16.687 I feel like I need more spectacle than that. 00:11:16.707 --> 00:11:20.767 I think it's always a good time to steal from the government. 00:11:21.227 --> 00:11:22.287 You know National Treasure? 00:11:22.307 --> 00:11:23.307 You know National Treasure? 00:11:26.747 --> 00:11:28.127 I don't know. 00:11:28.127 --> 00:11:32.647 That could be a cool thing to steal, is the Declaration of Independence, but not that, but something else. 00:11:33.147 --> 00:11:37.827 We're going to invite, so it's all queers, and then we also have Nick Cage. 00:11:38.187 --> 00:11:39.507 No, he's not there. 00:11:40.327 --> 00:11:41.567 He's in the background. 00:11:41.887 --> 00:11:44.147 He gets killed immediately. 00:11:44.307 --> 00:11:46.007 He's in every background. 00:11:47.087 --> 00:11:58.167 Nobody understands why Nick Cage was in every scene of this movie, but never referenced, never has a speaking role, never does anything except just walks across the background. 00:11:58.547 --> 00:11:59.467 Incredible. 00:11:59.607 --> 00:12:00.327 Super good. 00:12:00.927 --> 00:12:04.667 God, what is like cool and fun and gay to steal? 00:12:05.327 --> 00:12:06.047 Someone's heart. 00:12:06.487 --> 00:12:07.227 An art piece. 00:12:07.707 --> 00:12:08.107 Ooh. 00:12:08.927 --> 00:12:09.807 For someone. 00:12:10.187 --> 00:12:14.227 What if you have to steal a bunch of paintings to prove that an artist was gay? 00:12:14.547 --> 00:12:15.987 What if you have to steal the moon? 00:12:17.787 --> 00:12:19.227 We went to different places. 00:12:20.587 --> 00:12:21.947 How would you steal a moon? 00:12:22.267 --> 00:12:25.607 I'm going to shoot the moon with a laser beam to show my love. 00:12:30.087 --> 00:12:32.387 I'm going to carve a heart into the moon. 00:12:32.407 --> 00:12:36.927 Now I'm just going evil, evil gay scientist is where I've gone. 00:12:37.427 --> 00:12:39.747 Tell me about your thing. 00:12:40.027 --> 00:12:50.087 You have to steal a whole bunch of art pieces to prove that an artist was gay and also probably to get money for them to do some good thing. 00:12:50.447 --> 00:13:01.187 This is like the weirdest scene in Legally Blonde where it's like, of course, they're gay, they stole a bunch of art pieces, they're stealing a bunch of art from the Louvre or some equivalent to the Louvre. 00:13:01.207 --> 00:13:03.627 If we can't get the rights, I don't know why we wouldn't be able to. 00:13:04.207 --> 00:13:08.807 Oh, art, you know, art, you know what is an art piece is instruments. 00:13:08.967 --> 00:13:19.647 What if you stole a bunch of like high value instruments from like an orchestra chamber 30 minutes before people started showing up? 00:13:20.187 --> 00:13:21.367 Right, I see. 00:13:21.387 --> 00:13:24.547 But someone shows up early, of course, because they're nervous. 00:13:24.567 --> 00:13:27.087 Stealing an orchestra is the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard. 00:13:27.207 --> 00:13:28.307 That's really good. 00:13:28.487 --> 00:13:33.867 And it's like, oh, yeah, this is like the most important, you know, concert or whatever in the world. 00:13:34.127 --> 00:13:41.407 And so they're playing on like these famous, you know, beautiful instruments that are the most expensive instruments in the world or whatever. 00:13:41.507 --> 00:13:47.747 And so we have to we're trying to steal it, because this is the only time that they'll be outside of the vault that they're kept in. 00:13:48.067 --> 00:13:49.527 Oh, like climate sealed vault. 00:13:49.807 --> 00:14:05.227 So this is this is, you know, us having to steal it right before, you know, in the like five minute period when they're put on stage before the people get the chance to come on to them or to steal them after the tuning or whatever the whatever the fuck. 00:14:05.567 --> 00:14:07.107 There's like a short window. 00:14:07.107 --> 00:14:08.967 It's like we have to create a distraction. 00:14:08.967 --> 00:14:10.807 We have to hope that distraction works. 00:14:10.827 --> 00:14:15.227 We got to have a backup distraction, except we don't have the backup distraction. 00:14:15.247 --> 00:14:16.787 The backup distraction happens. 00:14:17.227 --> 00:14:18.687 Also, I know where we're stealing it from. 00:14:18.807 --> 00:14:21.087 The Sydney Opera House with the water. 00:14:21.107 --> 00:14:22.307 Oh, we got a scene. 00:14:22.327 --> 00:14:24.407 Yeah, of course. 00:14:24.687 --> 00:14:27.467 Yeah, a water heist is is underrated, I think. 00:14:27.787 --> 00:14:28.687 Absolutely. 00:14:28.747 --> 00:14:29.867 We love a water heist. 00:14:30.547 --> 00:14:40.567 I think that at least part of this crew, I've decided should be a polycule who all have very specific skills and work perfectly and work really well in tandem with one another. 00:14:41.987 --> 00:14:51.027 Is one of the members of the polycule, the person who has a crush on this other person and the other two are like, just go ask her, just go ask her. 00:14:51.467 --> 00:14:52.527 Like you can do it. 00:14:52.547 --> 00:14:55.107 And she's like, no, no, no, we have more important things to do. 00:14:55.287 --> 00:14:57.447 This won't interfere, I promise. 00:14:57.847 --> 00:14:58.547 That's fun. 00:14:58.547 --> 00:15:05.847 But I also am down with the like the idea of there's these three and then there's these other two who are who are like crossing on each other. 00:15:05.867 --> 00:15:07.827 Because you got to have like a big old cast, right? 00:15:08.047 --> 00:15:11.987 You can't reuse concepts, you know, you only got so much time to introduce. 00:15:12.567 --> 00:15:14.647 We'll have to make two movies is what I'm hearing. 00:15:15.127 --> 00:15:15.967 They'll be sequels. 00:15:15.987 --> 00:15:16.247 Yeah. 00:15:16.407 --> 00:15:18.887 Moons 420 and Moons 69. 00:15:19.967 --> 00:15:21.127 Uh-huh. 00:15:21.127 --> 00:15:22.667 420 is the first one. 00:15:22.767 --> 00:15:32.867 Because it's the characters last name is Four and there are 20 fucking queers that they've got on their fucking crew. 00:15:33.187 --> 00:15:34.947 Because it's that big of a heist. 00:15:35.447 --> 00:15:46.547 Yeah, the main person is a is just one of those queers who knows everyone and so has all these contacts to pull from, knows 20 people who'd be down to do a heist and who they trust to do a heist. 00:15:47.467 --> 00:15:51.547 I think with queers, it would be easier to know people who would want to do a heist. 00:15:51.887 --> 00:15:55.627 But would it be easier to know people you would trust to do a heist? 00:15:56.167 --> 00:15:56.887 That's true. 00:15:57.027 --> 00:15:59.127 That is a that is an important criteria. 00:15:59.287 --> 00:16:00.967 Like I wouldn't trust me to do a heist. 00:16:01.027 --> 00:16:01.907 No, I would. 00:16:01.927 --> 00:16:03.427 Don't invite me on your heist. 00:16:03.547 --> 00:16:04.387 I would fuck it up. 00:16:04.407 --> 00:16:05.647 Don't invite either of us on your heist. 00:16:05.667 --> 00:16:07.007 We have a podcast. 00:16:07.047 --> 00:16:09.007 This is why we're making a movie about it. 00:16:09.047 --> 00:16:10.747 So we don't have to be in it. 00:16:10.767 --> 00:16:12.367 Because it definitely didn't happen. 00:16:12.387 --> 00:16:13.307 Don't look into it. 00:16:13.707 --> 00:16:18.407 Don't look into the thievery of the expensive instruments of the Sydney Opera House. 00:16:22.147 --> 00:16:25.167 Of course, there's like super intense security. 00:16:25.547 --> 00:16:38.467 And yeah, I do like the idea of the main person does have a crush on whoever is organizing this concert and is like sees this as an off or like, are there exes or something, you know? 00:16:38.487 --> 00:16:42.007 I love a good rival ex tension. 00:16:42.047 --> 00:16:49.607 Rival exes, one of them became like rich and powerful and ended up being able to organize this concert. 00:16:49.627 --> 00:16:54.767 And so the like person's personal investment in it is they want to get back at this person. 00:16:55.127 --> 00:17:04.207 Can we have the like last-minute like realization that the ex wasn't actually like the actually the ex gets in on the heist? 00:17:04.747 --> 00:17:05.087 Right. 00:17:05.107 --> 00:17:05.347 Yeah. 00:17:05.367 --> 00:17:05.627 Uh-huh. 00:17:05.867 --> 00:17:10.547 No, there has to come a point where someone who the heist was against gets in on the heist. 00:17:10.547 --> 00:17:14.967 There's like a moment where it's like, can't believe you're stealing from me. 00:17:14.987 --> 00:17:19.707 And it's like, listen, I'm just here as no, I know that you're stealing from me. 00:17:19.707 --> 00:17:22.207 I can't believe you didn't ask me to be part of it. 00:17:26.347 --> 00:17:28.467 You know, I have a specialty in acrobatics. 00:17:28.527 --> 00:17:33.227 I could have, I could have gotten through so many doors without being noticed. 00:17:33.247 --> 00:17:34.467 But we're doing the heist against you. 00:17:34.607 --> 00:17:36.147 I don't own these instruments. 00:17:36.487 --> 00:17:37.627 Yeah, exactly. 00:17:37.747 --> 00:17:38.747 Exactly. 00:17:38.767 --> 00:17:40.747 Yeah, it's perfect. 00:17:41.447 --> 00:17:44.747 And it's a great cover because they were just renting them. 00:17:44.847 --> 00:17:48.427 And it's like, how could I have known there was going to be a giant heist? 00:17:49.167 --> 00:17:49.907 Yeah, uh-huh. 00:17:50.167 --> 00:17:50.567 It's so perfect. 00:17:50.587 --> 00:17:53.907 I took out insurance, so I get all the insurance money now. 00:17:54.267 --> 00:17:58.307 I feel like we could do better than 420 as a title, but also maybe we can't. 00:17:58.547 --> 00:18:00.967 What if it's like the Sydney Opera Heist? 00:18:01.667 --> 00:18:04.967 What about just like the Conductor or something? 00:18:05.287 --> 00:18:09.007 It's the Conductor, because I mean, the Conductor is the ex. 00:18:09.447 --> 00:18:11.947 And the Conductor is also the person in charge of the heist, you know? 00:18:11.967 --> 00:18:15.267 So it's just the Conductor, and it's unclear which one is the actual Conductor here. 00:18:15.287 --> 00:18:16.967 Oh, they're rival Conductors. 00:18:17.547 --> 00:18:18.367 They're rival Conductors. 00:18:18.747 --> 00:18:23.887 I mean, I don't know that the main person is literally a Conductor, but they are conducting the heist. 00:18:23.907 --> 00:18:24.727 Oh, I see. 00:18:24.827 --> 00:18:25.447 I got it. 00:18:25.587 --> 00:18:26.667 I got what you're saying. 00:18:27.327 --> 00:18:44.767 But also, what if they're rival Conductors, but one of them quit and became a professional thief, because, you know, when your ex is a Conductor, and you fell in love with them, and you're a Conductor, but you fell out of love, so you fell out of love with the job, and so you turn to a life of thievery, and get back at your ex, who is a Conductor, so you conduct a... 00:18:45.427 --> 00:18:46.147 We've all done it. 00:18:46.447 --> 00:18:47.087 We've all done it. 00:18:47.727 --> 00:18:49.407 That's really just a queer story. 00:18:49.847 --> 00:18:53.687 I think there actually is a movie called The Conductor out here, but no, there isn't. 00:18:53.767 --> 00:18:54.427 It's ours now. 00:18:54.587 --> 00:18:57.607 If you're a movie and you're called The Conductor, no, you aren't. 00:18:58.087 --> 00:18:58.727 No, you aren't. 00:18:58.727 --> 00:18:59.067 Heart. 00:19:01.407 --> 00:19:05.067 Clair, do you want to give me the craving that you had set up so well? 00:19:05.727 --> 00:19:10.887 All right, it's time to go back to Craving Rock, because my craving is about pre-gaming. 00:19:11.287 --> 00:19:12.647 I want to go to a pre-game. 00:19:12.667 --> 00:19:13.907 A pre-game, holy shit. 00:19:14.687 --> 00:19:17.547 The second best part of a party is the party. 00:19:17.687 --> 00:19:20.447 The first best part of the party is the pre-game. 00:19:20.967 --> 00:19:23.227 Why is this the most true thing I've ever heard? 00:19:23.807 --> 00:19:25.027 It's so real. 00:19:25.227 --> 00:19:26.267 It's so real. 00:19:27.147 --> 00:19:32.087 Because the pre-game is the excuse to see the people you want to go to the party with. 00:19:32.147 --> 00:19:38.867 And it's like, all right, if nothing else, we're just going to lump together, and we're just going to be awkward at this party together. 00:19:38.887 --> 00:19:41.067 So at least let's get all, let's like, let's get ready. 00:19:41.087 --> 00:19:42.147 Let's do our makeup. 00:19:42.367 --> 00:19:44.167 Let's like, have too many shots. 00:19:44.567 --> 00:19:54.347 Also, if you're going to like an event instead of a house party, it's like, all right, let's get as drunk as possible so we don't have to buy the $20 vodka crayon that like has a half a shot in it. 00:19:54.487 --> 00:19:57.207 And then you're just helping each other on the bus and whatnot. 00:19:57.487 --> 00:20:05.607 The only time I went to like a, just a straight club or whatever the fuck, I was with some friends of mine who are fantastic. 00:20:05.887 --> 00:20:11.787 And we met up at one of their houses to like pregame a little bit. 00:20:11.807 --> 00:20:14.827 And as soon as I got here, they're the other two who were with me. 00:20:14.847 --> 00:20:19.147 And they were sort of like, yeah, we noticed there's like a 24 hour Denny's near the club. 00:20:19.167 --> 00:20:21.647 It's like, oh, huh. 00:20:22.727 --> 00:20:23.207 Yeah. 00:20:23.827 --> 00:20:25.887 And that sort of escalated. 00:20:25.907 --> 00:20:36.507 And by the time we were done pregaming and we were on the bus and on our way there, we had convinced ourselves that we were going to go to the club for an hour and then go to the 24 hour Denny's and have that be the main thing. 00:20:36.527 --> 00:20:38.047 We stayed for about two hours. 00:20:38.207 --> 00:20:39.527 So shout outs to us. 00:20:40.007 --> 00:20:42.347 Damn, that's perseverance. 00:20:42.567 --> 00:20:48.427 That's the sort of thing that comes about when pregaming is like, God, I actually don't care about, I just want to hang out with y'all. 00:20:48.447 --> 00:20:50.547 And I just want to like spend time with y'all. 00:20:51.987 --> 00:20:54.347 Like, I love a pregame. 00:20:54.387 --> 00:20:56.047 I love a post party. 00:20:56.067 --> 00:20:58.067 Oh, you're right. 00:20:58.087 --> 00:20:58.807 I was wrong. 00:20:59.067 --> 00:21:01.327 The party isn't the second best thing at a party. 00:21:01.347 --> 00:21:02.907 The party is the third best thing. 00:21:02.927 --> 00:21:05.787 The second best thing is the post after party. 00:21:05.987 --> 00:21:08.267 The event itself is never the most exciting. 00:21:08.367 --> 00:21:09.267 Listen, okay, no. 00:21:09.327 --> 00:21:10.507 Here's my theory. 00:21:10.547 --> 00:21:12.147 The best is the pre-gaming. 00:21:12.687 --> 00:21:13.187 Of course. 00:21:13.187 --> 00:21:18.507 Second best is the exact moment you enter the party because you look cool as hell. 00:21:18.527 --> 00:21:19.487 Uh-huh, it's the entrance. 00:21:19.507 --> 00:21:22.247 And everyone's like, yo, hey, it's you, I love you. 00:21:23.347 --> 00:21:24.647 And you're like, hey, I love you. 00:21:24.667 --> 00:21:26.827 And you're like, look at all the clothes. 00:21:26.847 --> 00:21:28.247 It's like all of your outfits look so good. 00:21:28.587 --> 00:21:30.227 My outfit looks so good. 00:21:30.227 --> 00:21:31.887 Yeah, it's amazing. 00:21:32.207 --> 00:21:34.727 Oh, and then post-party is the next best. 00:21:35.067 --> 00:21:41.447 The fourth best part of the party is whenever you order food, when the food gets there. 00:21:41.667 --> 00:21:45.167 Though actually the worst part is when you order food, the best part is when the food gets there. 00:21:47.087 --> 00:21:49.467 And then the rest of the party is like below that. 00:21:51.747 --> 00:21:56.807 The worst part is ordering food because you have to coordinate like eight different people. 00:21:57.107 --> 00:21:57.947 Oh my God. 00:21:59.307 --> 00:22:01.447 Can you just pass the computer down around? 00:22:01.487 --> 00:22:02.727 I'm kind of busy right now. 00:22:02.747 --> 00:22:05.187 Can you just read me the menu, please? 00:22:07.547 --> 00:22:08.027 Uh-huh. 00:22:08.347 --> 00:22:13.287 So it's like so ordering food is the worst part, but getting food is maybe one of the one of the highlights. 00:22:13.307 --> 00:22:14.507 It's it's up there. 00:22:14.527 --> 00:22:15.507 Yeah, for sure. 00:22:15.707 --> 00:22:16.967 Doing shots together. 00:22:17.687 --> 00:22:20.467 Doing shots together is pretty good and a good suggestion. 00:22:20.487 --> 00:22:21.507 Doing shots together. 00:22:21.527 --> 00:22:22.447 Very close. 00:22:23.087 --> 00:22:23.507 Yes. 00:22:23.827 --> 00:22:28.807 The morning after for for the times that y'all just are like, all right, we're all too far. 00:22:28.827 --> 00:22:36.467 I'm thinking about like parties that are really far away brunch, where it's like, all right, we're all just passing out at this party and then we're going to go to brunch the next day. 00:22:36.487 --> 00:22:38.927 So we know now know the order of things. 00:22:38.967 --> 00:22:51.187 In which there's above the party is pre-gaming, the after party, the morning after and then the party. 00:22:51.867 --> 00:22:54.307 The food arrives, the arrival of people. 00:22:54.327 --> 00:22:57.327 Yeah, the party is above ordering food. 00:22:57.467 --> 00:22:58.347 I will give party that. 00:22:58.387 --> 00:23:00.207 Ordering food is the low point of the party. 00:23:00.227 --> 00:23:00.847 Yeah, uh-huh. 00:23:00.927 --> 00:23:02.347 That's the party hierarchy. 00:23:02.367 --> 00:23:06.767 The party hierarchy of needs, if you will. 00:23:07.407 --> 00:23:08.587 I will not, but continue. 00:23:09.027 --> 00:23:13.307 So, yeah, in terms of how to pre-game, it's pretty hard without parties. 00:23:13.327 --> 00:23:18.567 I haven't done a lot of pre-gaming at all because there haven't been parties to go to. 00:23:18.587 --> 00:23:26.027 I guess there have, but I'm not invited to those parties because they're by people who I would not party with. 00:23:27.267 --> 00:23:28.747 I might have a solution. 00:23:28.967 --> 00:23:29.447 Oh, please. 00:23:29.467 --> 00:23:35.027 Have I yet introduced to this podcast The Tuesday Party? 00:23:35.347 --> 00:23:37.207 Have I mentioned The Tuesday Party on this podcast? 00:23:37.227 --> 00:23:37.907 I don't think you have. 00:23:38.967 --> 00:23:40.607 You should tell us about The Tuesday Party. 00:23:41.107 --> 00:23:48.747 Sometimes you and your roommate don't have work, and so time loses all meaning. 00:23:48.847 --> 00:23:56.547 So in order to keep yourselves from dying, you come up with the concept of The Tuesday Party. 00:23:56.567 --> 00:23:58.207 So The Tuesday Party is very simple. 00:23:58.707 --> 00:24:01.307 Every Tuesday, you have a party. 00:24:01.327 --> 00:24:03.327 Here is what The Tuesday Party entails. 00:24:03.707 --> 00:24:09.627 You usually watch something, or one of you can play a video game, and the other watches and does commentary, or play a video game together. 00:24:10.367 --> 00:24:11.487 Doesn't have to be something good. 00:24:11.507 --> 00:24:15.847 It can be something fun, because the other crucial parts about this, you're allowed to drink if you want. 00:24:15.867 --> 00:24:17.447 You don't have to, but you're allowed to. 00:24:17.927 --> 00:24:26.167 And the most important part of this, you either have to make a really nice meal together, or if you just don't have it in you, you've got to order some food. 00:24:26.187 --> 00:24:29.607 You've got to do something nice for yourself in terms of the eating. 00:24:29.927 --> 00:24:38.567 And then you just spend the night and watch some things, and eat some good food, and maybe drink a little bit, and vibe. 00:24:38.567 --> 00:24:40.587 And that's what Tuesday Party is all about. 00:24:40.887 --> 00:24:45.727 But the crucial part of the Tuesday Party is the community and the friendship. 00:24:45.907 --> 00:24:49.087 And so Tuesday Party is kind of like a pregame, but it is a party. 00:24:49.507 --> 00:24:52.347 So you could totally do a pregame to the Tuesday Party. 00:24:52.347 --> 00:24:55.887 Yeah, I was going to ask, like, what is the Tuesday Party pregame? 00:24:56.387 --> 00:25:01.167 I mean, traditionally, it's the making of the food, but that's also kind of the party itself. 00:25:01.447 --> 00:25:05.347 So you could pregame Tuesday Party if you like go grocery shopping for the food. 00:25:05.527 --> 00:25:07.207 That's not a very exciting pregame. 00:25:07.227 --> 00:25:10.407 Yeah, but suddenly the party is better than the pregame. 00:25:10.707 --> 00:25:13.067 How do you make a pregame better than a Tuesday Party? 00:25:13.087 --> 00:25:15.407 I mean, it's difficult because the Tuesday Party is the best thing. 00:25:16.207 --> 00:25:23.287 You can make the Tuesday Party the pregame for a Zoom party, and that way it'll definitely be better than the Zoom party. 00:25:24.447 --> 00:25:25.627 That doesn't make me sad. 00:25:26.207 --> 00:25:26.587 Right? 00:25:26.767 --> 00:25:45.467 You can also do the other thing potentially, which is what I did for Valentine's Day with Ash, which was one of you makes a meal and then you like give that person part of the other meal to take back with them, and then you eat it together on like a call. 00:25:45.487 --> 00:25:49.487 It's a little sad, but it works as a, you know, it could work in that way. 00:25:49.687 --> 00:25:54.087 I know pre-games are not traditionally about eating, but that's, to me, that could work. 00:25:54.687 --> 00:25:56.787 Pre-games are about eating once the food arrives. 00:25:57.307 --> 00:26:00.307 Alternatively, socially distanced pre-game. 00:26:00.427 --> 00:26:12.007 When cases go down and we're allowed to see each other again, sit in a park, six feet apart from each other, and just throw alcohol at each other to pre-game. 00:26:12.207 --> 00:26:14.367 This is going a completely different direction. 00:26:14.387 --> 00:26:15.127 Please go on. 00:26:15.707 --> 00:26:20.167 No, it's just saying you just start tossing it to each other, you know, like, hey, can I have a beer? 00:26:20.187 --> 00:26:22.167 And then you're just throwing it to him and like feed away. 00:26:22.187 --> 00:26:25.427 I feel like I'm splashing each other with vodka or something. 00:26:26.607 --> 00:26:27.587 That's not a pre-game. 00:26:27.607 --> 00:26:30.627 But you're like, you're like, you know, you could like... 00:26:31.927 --> 00:26:33.747 But you can like do your makeup or whatever. 00:26:33.767 --> 00:26:38.007 Can't really do your hair because you don't have electrical outlets. 00:26:38.027 --> 00:26:39.947 Someone brings an external battery, you're good. 00:26:40.447 --> 00:26:45.747 What if we could all ascend to a party realm, you know, that would be cool. 00:26:46.067 --> 00:26:51.047 Party Rock is not in the house tonight because we're descending to the realm. 00:26:52.887 --> 00:26:53.987 That's where they've been. 00:26:54.007 --> 00:26:55.047 That's what they've been doing. 00:26:55.067 --> 00:26:56.787 They were, they had to... 00:26:56.807 --> 00:27:06.627 Listen, they apologized for party rocking because they realized what was to come and they realized that everyone would want to party rock when the quarantine came. 00:27:06.627 --> 00:27:10.867 And so now, to atone for their sins of party rocking, they've made the party dimension. 00:27:10.927 --> 00:27:13.127 That was their last album, was Sorry for Party Rocking. 00:27:13.427 --> 00:27:14.847 But are they genuinely sorry? 00:27:14.847 --> 00:27:18.367 I guess if they're genuinely sorry, then they can make the party realm. 00:27:18.887 --> 00:27:20.947 I mean, of course they're genuinely sorry. 00:27:20.987 --> 00:27:22.867 They never released another song. 00:27:25.227 --> 00:27:26.767 They've changed their behavior. 00:27:26.787 --> 00:27:31.227 They're more sorry for party rocking than most people are for things they get called out for. 00:27:32.367 --> 00:27:32.807 Damn. 00:27:32.827 --> 00:27:35.167 Because they actually changed their behavior. 00:27:35.807 --> 00:27:39.107 LMFAO, in the end, proved in the powers... 00:27:39.127 --> 00:27:41.047 It was all of us laughing out loud together. 00:27:41.507 --> 00:27:42.227 Of growth. 00:27:42.247 --> 00:27:43.527 Yeah, of growth and change. 00:27:43.547 --> 00:27:45.507 I think I'm good on the pregame. 00:27:45.947 --> 00:27:48.127 I'm going to ascend to the party rock realm. 00:27:48.127 --> 00:27:51.507 So I'm happy with my party rock pregame. 00:27:51.627 --> 00:27:54.067 Do you want to give us the next Craving? 00:27:54.647 --> 00:28:02.447 One of the things that Quarantine has made me think about is how big a small gesture can be. 00:28:02.647 --> 00:28:06.727 How the various forms of communication things can take. 00:28:06.747 --> 00:28:13.647 And, you know, it's made me very thankful for our kind of ability to do video calls and that sort of thing. 00:28:13.667 --> 00:28:18.147 It is very helpful, but it's boring. 00:28:19.267 --> 00:28:21.407 It sucks. 00:28:21.687 --> 00:28:24.067 We need to embellish our communication more. 00:28:24.507 --> 00:28:39.887 I say we need to return to the epistolary tradition to not only writing letters to each other, but writing those letters in a way that was like really, so it's really exciting to get a letter. 00:28:39.907 --> 00:28:47.547 And it's like a beautifully done piece of paper with like cool ink and cool designs and maybe a wax seal. 00:28:47.707 --> 00:28:51.387 This is a thing that my girlfriend did for me for Valentine's Day. 00:28:51.407 --> 00:28:52.527 It was very sweet, very cute. 00:28:52.547 --> 00:28:54.507 She wrote me some letters and stuff. 00:28:54.887 --> 00:28:57.387 And it's made me think we should all be doing this. 00:28:57.407 --> 00:28:58.107 This rules. 00:28:58.127 --> 00:28:58.747 This is great. 00:28:58.787 --> 00:29:03.047 I think we should all get back into the epistolary tradition. 00:29:03.587 --> 00:29:04.787 You're goddamn right. 00:29:05.007 --> 00:29:15.767 I've been exchanging letters with my grandmother because she has an iPad and doesn't know that not everybody can FaceTime because FaceTime is the video calling for iPhones. 00:29:15.987 --> 00:29:18.067 So we've been exchanging letters. 00:29:18.087 --> 00:29:19.427 Totally. 00:29:19.767 --> 00:29:20.427 I feel this. 00:29:20.847 --> 00:29:23.067 It's very exciting to get a letter from my grandmother. 00:29:23.087 --> 00:29:28.867 It's probably not the same as getting a letter from your girlfriend, but definitely not the same. 00:29:29.267 --> 00:29:31.587 But it is exciting, nevertheless. 00:29:31.607 --> 00:29:33.187 I really do love receiving a letter. 00:29:33.207 --> 00:29:34.007 I love sending a letter. 00:29:34.327 --> 00:29:38.767 And I also think that there's a certain value in very olden days. 00:29:39.247 --> 00:29:48.347 There would be things like people would put a bit of perfume on a letter that they were sending so that it would remind the receiver of them. 00:29:48.487 --> 00:29:59.887 Or they'd have a custom wax seal, or they would make sure to do things in really clean handwriting, or they'd use not only the front of the letter, but also the side of the letter and the back of the letter to really save paper. 00:30:01.507 --> 00:30:08.387 And I just think there's all these really cool flourishes and traditions that you just don't get with sending someone a store-bought card. 00:30:08.407 --> 00:30:11.147 And I'm not saying that that's bad, because I also do that shit. 00:30:11.387 --> 00:30:14.447 But what if we all got really into letter writing? 00:30:14.467 --> 00:30:15.707 I just think that would be cool. 00:30:15.727 --> 00:30:19.167 I want someone to exchange fucking Regency-style letters with. 00:30:19.747 --> 00:30:21.567 Can we just do that as our podcast now? 00:30:22.127 --> 00:30:23.867 Yeah, that's the podcast now. 00:30:24.187 --> 00:30:30.807 Sign up your mailing address, and we'll just mail you a letter every month. 00:30:30.827 --> 00:30:34.027 Since we're replacing the podcast, we'll need to mail them two letters a month. 00:30:34.607 --> 00:30:36.747 That's true, that's true. 00:30:36.967 --> 00:30:45.807 We're going to become the green sisters, but instead of making video blogs at each other, we make letters at each other, and I guess we just read them out. 00:30:46.007 --> 00:30:47.867 That is what we do now. 00:30:48.027 --> 00:30:49.247 So what would be your seal? 00:30:50.607 --> 00:30:52.567 If you had like a custom ornate seal? 00:30:53.467 --> 00:30:55.287 Oh, I think flowers are always good. 00:30:55.307 --> 00:30:56.787 I wouldn't mind like a daisy or something. 00:30:56.807 --> 00:30:57.507 I think that's cute. 00:30:57.527 --> 00:30:59.687 A good heart, you always gotta love a good heart. 00:31:00.527 --> 00:31:05.067 A clone trooper helmet, since I'm obsessed with clones these days. 00:31:05.467 --> 00:31:09.247 It's a heart on the clone trooper helmet. 00:31:09.347 --> 00:31:10.487 Yeah. 00:31:10.527 --> 00:31:11.567 What would yours be though? 00:31:11.707 --> 00:31:12.567 Tell me what yours... 00:31:12.647 --> 00:31:15.587 I mean, mine could also just be like a very fancy bee. 00:31:15.867 --> 00:31:17.047 You know, that could be neat. 00:31:17.147 --> 00:31:18.487 What would be mine? 00:31:18.967 --> 00:31:28.347 You know the very simple Aries symbol where it kind of just looks like an M, but if you chopped off the outer two legs... 00:31:28.727 --> 00:31:30.147 Actually, I had this as a... 00:31:30.967 --> 00:31:31.847 Hey, gay moment. 00:31:31.867 --> 00:31:41.347 I had a couple's tattoo idea of putting the Aries symbol on a D20 where the 20 goes, and then that would be my stamp. 00:31:41.767 --> 00:31:42.267 That's cute. 00:31:42.287 --> 00:31:45.367 So it's a D20 with the Aries symbol on it. 00:31:45.527 --> 00:31:49.327 I think it'd be cool for us to have a Salt Cravings wax seal. 00:31:49.847 --> 00:31:50.767 Yeah, I mean, of course. 00:31:51.327 --> 00:31:59.887 This would be our official Salt Cravings seal that we send out to all our secret admirers that we have on the show. 00:32:00.507 --> 00:32:01.087 So many. 00:32:01.207 --> 00:32:01.847 Thousands. 00:32:02.347 --> 00:32:03.547 Hundreds of thousands. 00:32:03.647 --> 00:32:04.427 Absolutely. 00:32:04.447 --> 00:32:06.227 And it tastes like salt. 00:32:06.487 --> 00:32:13.067 So you know those scratch and sniff things, except if you smell or lick, it sounds like salt. 00:32:13.607 --> 00:32:14.267 That's it. 00:32:14.287 --> 00:32:15.207 That's the thing. 00:32:15.227 --> 00:32:18.727 I want scratch and sniff on these letters. 00:32:18.967 --> 00:32:22.007 You said perfume, but what if we could more easily... 00:32:22.027 --> 00:32:24.567 Scratch and sniff is basically the modern day perfume. 00:32:25.147 --> 00:32:25.547 Right? 00:32:25.767 --> 00:32:27.467 But what if you could tell a story? 00:32:27.487 --> 00:32:37.707 It was like I was in the park, and I had a really nice time walking through the park, and then at the end of the sentence, you have a little thing that you scratch, and there's a nature smell that you get off of it. 00:32:37.727 --> 00:32:46.107 And then the next sentence is like, and then I saw some birds, and they were like, I don't know, and then you scratch another thing and it actually starts tweeting at you. 00:32:46.127 --> 00:32:46.987 I'm including sound. 00:32:47.007 --> 00:32:48.047 It's scratch and tweet. 00:32:48.127 --> 00:32:48.987 Scratch and sound. 00:32:49.287 --> 00:32:50.207 It's scratch and tweet. 00:32:50.747 --> 00:32:57.907 My question then becomes, how are you engineering scratch and sniff this excessively that people can just make their own? 00:32:58.427 --> 00:33:00.347 That is the difficulty, right? 00:33:00.507 --> 00:33:00.967 Right. 00:33:01.647 --> 00:33:02.227 How are you? 00:33:02.387 --> 00:33:02.687 Right. 00:33:02.707 --> 00:33:10.227 Because here's the thing, and one of the reasons why I think we no longer write really extravagant, unnecessary letters. 00:33:10.567 --> 00:33:13.207 We just don't have the traditions. 00:33:13.227 --> 00:33:16.547 Because I don't think it's like something, it's just like, oh, people are too much on their phones. 00:33:16.687 --> 00:33:20.387 It's like, how would you even go about making a wax seal? 00:33:20.407 --> 00:33:26.047 How would you even go about learning calligraphy? 00:33:26.067 --> 00:33:37.367 This is a thing that back in the day, obviously it was very gendered, but it was a thing that women would spend many hours doing and practicing and getting better at is writing specific letters. 00:33:38.327 --> 00:33:40.247 And also class divide, right? 00:33:40.407 --> 00:33:41.367 And also class divide. 00:33:41.387 --> 00:33:47.107 Oh, yeah, to be clear, again, this is very much an upper class thing because of the cost of materials. 00:33:47.347 --> 00:33:53.807 I will say letter writing was fairly common across classes, but it was definitely less ornate. 00:33:54.307 --> 00:33:56.227 Right, it was definitely less ornate and less. 00:33:56.607 --> 00:33:59.287 It was like a form of communication. 00:33:59.487 --> 00:34:02.487 Yeah, more of a practical thing rather than an artistic thing. 00:34:02.807 --> 00:34:05.427 But I think at this point, it could be an artistic thing for everyone. 00:34:06.587 --> 00:34:07.187 You know? 00:34:07.207 --> 00:34:07.967 You want the art. 00:34:08.047 --> 00:34:10.407 You want the art of talking to each other. 00:34:10.427 --> 00:34:12.867 Yeah, you know, I like that. 00:34:12.887 --> 00:34:14.787 I like unnecessary extravagant letter. 00:34:15.367 --> 00:34:20.607 So we need really the materials, we need the tools and the teachings of how to do this sort of thing. 00:34:21.107 --> 00:34:29.747 Because I think that if you give people the ability to do it, I feel like I know enough queers who would just start doing it, who would just start sending letters. 00:34:30.187 --> 00:34:38.387 I've seen enough games pop up on its.io or in bundles and stuff that are about sending things in the mail to each other. 00:34:38.667 --> 00:34:43.267 So how are we reviving letter writing industry and making it accessible for all? 00:34:44.707 --> 00:34:47.107 We're just gonna do it. 00:34:47.447 --> 00:34:48.347 We're just gonna do it. 00:34:48.667 --> 00:34:50.887 The solution is we're just gonna do it also. 00:34:52.647 --> 00:34:53.087 Say it. 00:34:53.107 --> 00:34:54.587 Say your idea. 00:34:55.927 --> 00:34:56.947 Say the bad thing. 00:34:56.967 --> 00:34:58.007 Say the bad thing. 00:34:58.387 --> 00:35:03.047 Instead of ink, which is a non-renewable resource, we can use cum. 00:35:04.227 --> 00:35:06.227 Why did you go to cum? 00:35:06.247 --> 00:35:08.107 Why did you tell me to say it? 00:35:09.087 --> 00:35:10.527 Blood was right there. 00:35:10.547 --> 00:35:14.567 We do blood shit all the time on this podcast. 00:35:14.947 --> 00:35:22.087 I just think if you got like a black sheet of paper, it could be, it could be artistic. 00:35:22.107 --> 00:35:30.707 I think you could, with cum, write a letter that can only be seen under UV light, which I guess is beneficial, sort of. 00:35:30.907 --> 00:35:32.387 This is Hannibal Nectar. 00:35:33.007 --> 00:35:34.947 Stop, stop, I'm going to kill you. 00:35:35.027 --> 00:35:38.087 I'm going to come through with, I'm going to send you a letter that kills you. 00:35:38.107 --> 00:35:40.767 You're going to scratch and sniff it, and it's going to be arsenic. 00:35:40.987 --> 00:35:42.147 It's the smell of death. 00:35:43.407 --> 00:35:53.447 I don't really think ink was the thing that I was thinking would be the stopping point, the sticking point, to one could say, the sticky point. 00:35:56.427 --> 00:36:01.927 I was more thinking it might be the wax seal or the scratch and sniff. 00:36:02.027 --> 00:36:03.847 That probably makes more sense, yeah. 00:36:04.387 --> 00:36:07.307 And I don't think you can do a wax seal with cum. 00:36:08.307 --> 00:36:11.747 Well, if you get enough of it. 00:36:12.307 --> 00:36:18.787 Do you think like, I don't even want to say this, because I don't want to bring this possibility into the world. 00:36:19.387 --> 00:36:20.387 I mean, you could, though. 00:36:20.807 --> 00:36:28.927 Do you think there was like a pornographic letter writing tradition in which you would mix a little bit of your cum into the wax? 00:36:29.127 --> 00:36:30.567 There has to be. 00:36:30.667 --> 00:36:31.267 Right? 00:36:31.387 --> 00:36:33.967 That has to have been a thing, right? 00:36:34.807 --> 00:36:38.947 Can you imagine cumming on the letter? 00:36:39.507 --> 00:36:47.227 Because it's like, I don't have perfume, but babe, please accept what I do have. 00:36:50.787 --> 00:36:51.727 This is the worst. 00:36:53.007 --> 00:36:54.347 Cravings no longer relevant. 00:36:54.347 --> 00:36:57.487 I no longer want anyone to write any letters ever again. 00:36:57.507 --> 00:36:59.707 I'm so good at ruining all your cravings. 00:37:00.247 --> 00:37:06.587 Anyway, if anyone wants to do normal letter writing back and forth, let me know. 00:37:06.887 --> 00:37:10.487 And on that note, cumming is normal, just a relevant note. 00:37:10.507 --> 00:37:14.507 But anyways, yeah, right, Brianna, a lot of letters that are normal. 00:37:14.527 --> 00:37:25.047 Do not, hey, do not involve cum in any letters which you write to me. 00:37:25.427 --> 00:37:26.967 I don't want cum to be involved. 00:37:28.227 --> 00:37:34.187 We don't need to have cum be a part of the new letter writing tradition that I'm starting, the new epistolary tradition. 00:37:35.147 --> 00:37:38.627 There's no place to put cum in the word epistolary, and neither is there a place to put- 00:37:38.647 --> 00:37:40.307 There's no cum, but there is piss. 00:37:40.367 --> 00:37:41.607 So, what you couldn't- 00:37:43.227 --> 00:37:45.707 The epistolary tradition. 00:37:45.947 --> 00:37:48.587 Yeah, that's actually totally fine with me, weirdly. 00:37:48.687 --> 00:37:50.527 Cum is bad, but piss is good. 00:37:50.547 --> 00:37:53.727 That's actually totally fine with me. 00:37:54.107 --> 00:37:56.107 All bodily fluids are bad, except piss. 00:37:56.127 --> 00:37:58.867 That's a thing that I definitely believe and think is totally true. 00:37:59.127 --> 00:38:00.227 And yeah, uh-huh. 00:38:01.347 --> 00:38:02.147 Ava Fab. 00:38:02.647 --> 00:38:05.327 All bodily functions are bastards? 00:38:06.067 --> 00:38:07.487 All bodily fluids are bad. 00:38:07.707 --> 00:38:09.167 All bodily fluids are bad. 00:38:09.187 --> 00:38:14.007 Don't involve bodily fluids in any letters you're writing, unless that's a consensual thing you two have discussed. 00:38:14.027 --> 00:38:16.947 Then it's all bodily fluids are beautiful. 00:38:17.207 --> 00:38:18.227 The same acronym. 00:38:18.647 --> 00:38:21.527 Same acronym, two meanings, two sides of a coin. 00:38:22.167 --> 00:38:23.907 Two sides of the bodily fluid. 00:38:24.387 --> 00:38:27.347 Hey, just a quick question before we move on to the next craving. 00:38:27.907 --> 00:38:34.467 Is your next craving going to include a mention or focus on any bodily fluids that... 00:38:34.827 --> 00:38:47.907 I mean, maybe you could tell me if it does, because my next craving is sitting in a room with a bunch of people and just being able to listen to the conversation without having to interject anything. 00:38:48.327 --> 00:38:50.807 So it could, depending on the conversation. 00:38:50.827 --> 00:38:52.167 But I don't think it needs to. 00:38:52.167 --> 00:38:53.367 I don't think it needs to. 00:38:53.427 --> 00:38:54.147 I think we can move on. 00:38:54.207 --> 00:38:58.867 Maybe you're sitting in a room and it's an orgy, but you're just kind of sitting there. 00:38:58.887 --> 00:39:01.487 I think that's called voyeurism. 00:39:01.607 --> 00:39:04.067 I think that's called voyeurism is the thing that you're describing. 00:39:04.087 --> 00:39:04.987 Yeah, there's a word. 00:39:05.007 --> 00:39:06.047 There is a word for it. 00:39:06.747 --> 00:39:27.067 But yeah, my craving is the experience of just like, you know, when you're in a big room, and the conversation just has a life of its own, and it just flows, unlike how conversations on video calls happen, where inevitably it feels like there's more silence on video calls than there is in real life conversations. 00:39:27.067 --> 00:39:28.627 And I don't know what's up with that. 00:39:28.847 --> 00:39:35.447 I think because we're all aware that if we're going to talk, we run the risk of completely interrupting someone. 00:39:35.767 --> 00:39:38.127 And so we're really hesitant to speak. 00:39:38.147 --> 00:39:40.287 We like want to give the other person a chance to... 00:39:40.367 --> 00:39:50.447 Again, I'm sure if you're along like a call with a bunch of like, Cishet white dudes, they probably are just like, it's probably just... 00:39:50.467 --> 00:39:53.307 Yeah, I mean, I am on a lot of those calls at work. 00:39:53.467 --> 00:39:59.127 There's a lot less silence and there's a lot more people cutting each other off really is the only difference. 00:39:59.207 --> 00:40:00.927 It's less fear about that. 00:40:01.147 --> 00:40:08.967 We're going to be analyzing these past years for years, if not decades to come, and then we're going to come to the decades. 00:40:09.267 --> 00:40:18.487 How many solutions to the existence of a pandemic and a need to quarantine can we come up with? 00:40:18.767 --> 00:40:20.067 We've come up with so many. 00:40:20.387 --> 00:40:21.187 But here's the thing. 00:40:21.207 --> 00:40:23.467 We don't have to be in a big room. 00:40:23.487 --> 00:40:25.027 I just want to... 00:40:25.487 --> 00:40:43.607 So the actual end of this craving, I'll just read the craving verbatim, because I like the craving, is sitting in a room with other people, all having a big conversation you get to listen to, and then in brackets, thanks podcast, because I could just listen to podcasts, and it's like all my friends are in the room with me. 00:40:43.947 --> 00:40:45.367 Podcasts do provide that. 00:40:46.027 --> 00:40:53.187 I was going to say, we are a podcast, and we could try and replicate this for the viewer, listener, viewers. 00:40:54.307 --> 00:40:56.427 Yeah, why don't we just have a conversation? 00:40:56.447 --> 00:40:57.807 Just have a conversation. 00:41:00.607 --> 00:41:01.707 This is it, okay. 00:41:01.727 --> 00:41:04.747 We're just going to spontaneously have a conversation. 00:41:04.767 --> 00:41:05.947 Very spontaneously. 00:41:06.407 --> 00:41:12.407 You ever have a conversation for like an hour, and then as soon as you're like, all right, let's have a conversation. 00:41:12.427 --> 00:41:15.507 It's just like, what do we have a conversation about? 00:41:15.747 --> 00:41:17.747 So I'm really excited for the game tomorrow. 00:41:17.767 --> 00:41:20.687 You were saying that you had some thoughts. 00:41:20.947 --> 00:41:23.487 We're thinking you might want to go into the other world. 00:41:23.507 --> 00:41:24.727 That's what you were thinking. 00:41:24.747 --> 00:41:27.507 Ah, the other world with Rain, yes. 00:41:27.687 --> 00:41:29.747 So, God, can you remind me? 00:41:29.767 --> 00:41:38.727 We were doing a thing where we were sneaking into this laboratory and we all got caught or something. 00:41:38.747 --> 00:41:54.507 Where things are at is, so there's this government organization called DOOR, and they want to open up a doorway into the other world called Ergira, which is this hub world of all these different types of people. 00:41:54.767 --> 00:42:05.687 They were kidnapping people, knew about this other world in order to try to get information out of them to see if they could find a lead on who might be able to just have the ability to go between these worlds at will. 00:42:06.107 --> 00:42:15.787 They didn't get the information which exists, which is, of course, that Big Ear Ernegsten Tax exists, who is a person who can go between worlds at will. 00:42:16.147 --> 00:42:19.627 Y'all broke in to the door base to rescue people. 00:42:19.987 --> 00:42:20.907 You got them out. 00:42:21.167 --> 00:42:24.247 And since then, it's been sort of like, okay, well, they're planning stuff. 00:42:24.267 --> 00:42:33.687 Y'all had to rescue some people from an abandoned theme park, which was like this other group of cultists who know a lot about this world and are from this world. 00:42:33.767 --> 00:42:54.107 And now at this point, you've just discovered that one of the people involved in Door, the head scientist, is actually from Argyra, which I'm really excited about because I fucked her over real hard last time and taunted her and then almost killed her by blowing up her laboratory or something. 00:42:54.127 --> 00:42:55.867 That was really funny. 00:42:55.887 --> 00:42:58.327 She was so easy to push over. 00:42:58.347 --> 00:43:01.867 Yeah, that's going to be fun with you and with her. 00:43:01.887 --> 00:43:06.767 But yeah, so at this point, y'all are about to get more detail on her whole deal. 00:43:07.067 --> 00:43:12.247 And then basically, it's going to be up to y'all to be like, well, how do you want to go about this from here? 00:43:12.267 --> 00:43:19.547 Do you want to try what you were suggesting, like go into Argyra and try and rescue the gear there before they can get at her? 00:43:19.887 --> 00:43:25.847 Or do you want to try and go after Door and try to stop them before they can get to her? 00:43:25.847 --> 00:43:29.207 Or do you want to wait and see what happens and react? 00:43:29.527 --> 00:43:35.227 Do you want to pursue this lead with this scientist lady, or do you want to do something else entirely? 00:43:35.467 --> 00:43:37.487 There's all these various options. 00:43:38.147 --> 00:43:40.207 That's sort of what I was thinking about. 00:43:40.647 --> 00:43:42.527 There are so many options. 00:43:42.647 --> 00:43:43.707 What do you think? 00:43:43.727 --> 00:43:45.107 Are you listening? 00:43:45.927 --> 00:43:47.247 Yeah, you listening. 00:43:47.707 --> 00:43:48.427 What do you think? 00:43:48.547 --> 00:43:53.787 We were just actually just wondering, we are still deciding this and obviously the rest of the crew is still deciding this. 00:43:54.747 --> 00:43:58.367 And obviously by the time you hear this, it's probably good. 00:43:58.387 --> 00:43:59.227 It'll have been decided. 00:43:59.247 --> 00:44:00.347 We just want your input. 00:44:00.487 --> 00:44:02.747 We just want to include you. 00:44:02.767 --> 00:44:03.947 We're all in this room together. 00:44:03.967 --> 00:44:07.067 Having this fun time together as friends. 00:44:07.587 --> 00:44:08.307 Answer now. 00:44:08.887 --> 00:44:09.827 Answer right now. 00:44:11.247 --> 00:44:12.247 That's a good answer. 00:44:12.267 --> 00:44:13.947 That's a really good answer. 00:44:14.147 --> 00:44:15.227 I think I'm going to do that. 00:44:15.827 --> 00:44:17.227 You heard that, right? 00:44:17.487 --> 00:44:19.307 I think that's going to be what I do tomorrow. 00:44:19.827 --> 00:44:20.807 Then I know what to prep for. 00:44:20.827 --> 00:44:21.347 That's awesome. 00:44:23.187 --> 00:44:31.007 All right, well, I guess with that, my craving has been solved, and we can go back into the party rock. 00:44:31.327 --> 00:44:34.567 I hope that wasn't just like super fucking boring to listen to. 00:44:35.007 --> 00:44:37.487 I mean, it was probably like the rest of our podcast. 00:44:37.687 --> 00:44:40.087 The entire podcast was us having a conversation. 00:44:40.107 --> 00:44:44.927 We have the conversation so that you can sit in your room alone and be like, haha, they're my friends. 00:44:45.427 --> 00:44:45.987 And we are. 00:44:46.507 --> 00:44:47.047 Believe us. 00:44:47.067 --> 00:44:48.267 We're your friends. 00:44:48.287 --> 00:44:48.867 Keep listening. 00:44:49.287 --> 00:44:52.887 I don't think we should encourage parasocial relationships. 00:44:53.867 --> 00:44:55.447 JK, what if we do? 00:44:56.187 --> 00:44:57.467 You're our best friends. 00:44:57.527 --> 00:44:59.947 We don't support parasocial relationships. 00:44:59.967 --> 00:45:01.487 This is a real relationship. 00:45:02.487 --> 00:45:05.847 We invite you to be in our friendship. 00:45:08.347 --> 00:45:10.147 I'm ready to die right now. 00:45:12.687 --> 00:45:15.827 Craving Rock has leaving the house tonight. 00:45:17.027 --> 00:45:26.787 It's walking out the door, and it is leaving us behind, because we have to end this podcast. 00:45:27.207 --> 00:45:28.907 Thanks for listening to Salt Cravings. 00:45:28.987 --> 00:45:30.547 Thanks for listening to Salt Cravings. 00:45:30.567 --> 00:45:31.027 That's it. 00:45:31.047 --> 00:45:31.747 Goodbye. 00:45:31.767 --> 00:45:33.307 We're going to hit record now. 00:45:34.907 --> 00:45:37.127 No, I'm sorry for Craving Rocking. 00:45:37.167 --> 00:45:41.267 Hey everybody, I need to make a formal apology. 00:45:41.327 --> 00:45:43.067 I'm sorry for Craving Rocking. 00:45:43.087 --> 00:45:50.827 It was irresponsible, and you know, we had a lot of fun there in the Craving Rock Zone, but now we got to end it. 00:45:51.227 --> 00:45:59.307 And so if you want to find us outside the Craving Rock Zone, you could head over to social media on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram at Salt Cravings. 00:45:59.347 --> 00:46:05.687 Or if you want to, you know, get into the party rock zone, hey friend, you want to send us a Craving of yours? 00:46:05.707 --> 00:46:08.027 Hey friend, send us a Craving of yours. 00:46:08.267 --> 00:46:10.587 You can do that at submissions at saltcravings.com. 00:46:10.607 --> 00:46:19.127 You could also just tweet at us, Facebook at us, or Instagram at us what your Cravings are, and we'll do them, because you're our special friend here on the show that we will do just for you. 00:46:19.247 --> 00:46:20.307 And no one else, just you. 00:46:20.367 --> 00:46:21.027 You're special. 00:46:21.547 --> 00:46:30.007 And if you really want to solidify your totally real and definitely not parasocial friendship with us, you can leave a rating or review on your podcast platform of choice. 00:46:30.227 --> 00:46:32.207 Give us five stars if you're really our friend. 00:46:33.007 --> 00:46:37.887 If you're really our friend, only real friends, give us five stars, which you are. 00:46:39.267 --> 00:46:41.787 We can't guilt trip or manipulate people. 00:46:41.807 --> 00:46:45.107 That's not that's not that's not friendly behavior. 00:46:46.007 --> 00:46:48.067 But friends support friends. 00:46:48.087 --> 00:46:51.367 That's why you'll go to give us five star ratings. 00:46:53.887 --> 00:47:01.707 Alternatively, you could go to the links in the description to donate or support folks who need it. 00:47:02.067 --> 00:47:03.227 Those are our friends. 00:47:03.827 --> 00:47:07.687 And they're your friends by extension. 00:47:08.387 --> 00:47:11.487 Oh my god, that's not... 00:47:11.687 --> 00:47:13.207 Don't forget to give your friends money. 00:47:13.347 --> 00:47:14.547 They're in the links below. 00:47:19.447 --> 00:47:21.467 Keep an eye out for more info on our... 00:47:21.867 --> 00:47:22.907 On the livestream. 00:47:23.547 --> 00:47:25.247 July 1st to 4th, keep an eye out. 00:47:25.247 --> 00:47:26.347 It's gonna happen. 00:47:26.867 --> 00:47:31.147 We're probably gonna start asking who wants to be a part of it. 00:47:31.247 --> 00:47:32.127 And that should be fun. 00:47:32.607 --> 00:47:34.787 And we'll ask you, friendo, cause you're our friend. 00:47:35.527 --> 00:47:36.467 No, we're not. 00:47:37.927 --> 00:47:39.547 Only friends on the stream. 00:47:39.667 --> 00:47:41.127 But you're our friend, we promise. 00:49:04.785 --> 00:49:06.565 I don't even know where the outro went in there. 00:49:06.585 --> 00:49:09.085 It was somewhere in there, it was somewhere in there. 00:49:10.785 --> 00:49:15.345 Oh, good, great, we love podcasting. 00:49:15.945 --> 00:49:17.725 Sorry for podcasting. 00:49:19.165 --> 00:49:23.665 That's the real sequel to Sorry to Party Rocking, and sorry for podcasting.