WEBVTT 00:00:24.884 --> 00:00:26.404 Welcome, everybody. 00:00:26.424 --> 00:00:29.864 I'm your special host of tonight. 00:00:29.884 --> 00:00:34.364 Thankfully, I have been trusted to welcome our special speaker. 00:00:34.504 --> 00:00:52.684 I am your court jester, Clair, and I'd like to introduce you to the god empress of our region, the whisperer of the unheard truths, keeper of the lost lore of Elenia, freer of the nine seas, generator of good fortune and beloved of the trees. 00:00:53.064 --> 00:00:55.964 Everyone, put your hands together for Brianna. 00:00:57.764 --> 00:00:59.364 Well, don't clap at once, okay? 00:01:04.564 --> 00:01:05.864 Very good. 00:01:09.824 --> 00:01:23.264 Hello, it is I, the Immortal Empress, who never ages, as you can tell, from the youthful sound of my voice. 00:01:23.284 --> 00:01:27.844 You look like the day I met you, which was last week, because you killed your last court jester. 00:01:31.224 --> 00:01:34.484 Oh, I did do that, and I would do it again. 00:01:34.504 --> 00:01:42.244 Oh, but you are such a good court jester, aren't you? 00:01:42.264 --> 00:01:43.724 I sure hope so. 00:01:43.744 --> 00:01:49.524 Just such a good court jester in my court, were you jest? 00:01:53.344 --> 00:02:00.964 Oh, my good court jester, for what entertainment have you prepared for me today? 00:02:00.984 --> 00:02:07.164 I have scoured the lands and found the good entertainment of the new folk. 00:02:07.424 --> 00:02:09.944 I believe they have called it a podcast. 00:02:18.224 --> 00:02:25.104 You put it on your head, and it explains things to you, and sometimes it's funny. 00:02:25.184 --> 00:02:30.544 And this one, you'll like it, I promise, you'll definitely like it. 00:02:30.564 --> 00:02:32.644 It's about cravings, and they solve them. 00:02:32.944 --> 00:02:35.144 I crave so many things. 00:02:35.644 --> 00:02:36.384 Yes, we know. 00:02:36.424 --> 00:02:37.204 We knew you do. 00:02:37.464 --> 00:02:39.344 We will get you your cravings. 00:02:42.024 --> 00:02:49.004 It sounds delightful, like a crown you wear on your head, and it explains things to you. 00:02:49.144 --> 00:02:50.784 Yes, a crown, exactly like that. 00:02:50.804 --> 00:02:52.624 Let me get you your explainy crown. 00:02:54.304 --> 00:02:55.644 Yes, good. 00:02:55.684 --> 00:03:02.964 And then the court jester takes a pair of pencils and attaches a crown to them and puts them on the Empress's head. 00:03:02.984 --> 00:03:05.264 And it's all very good. 00:03:05.664 --> 00:03:06.704 That's what you're watching. 00:03:06.704 --> 00:03:20.224 So if this was like, if we were to upload this to YouTube, it would just be a static kind of a video of the Empress just looking while the audio plays. 00:03:20.244 --> 00:03:22.684 I think it would be slightly more than static. 00:03:22.704 --> 00:03:36.804 It would be like the low vibes, but like every now and then the Empress nods or like shakes her head in like, or like looks over at the court jester with a face, pulls a lever at a new court jester, comes on the screen. 00:03:37.604 --> 00:03:41.244 Honestly, it's impressive that this last court jester lasted a week. 00:03:41.644 --> 00:03:42.504 Yeah. 00:03:42.844 --> 00:03:43.264 Hi. 00:03:44.064 --> 00:03:45.164 Hey, everyone. 00:03:45.544 --> 00:03:46.864 Let's solve some cravings. 00:03:47.404 --> 00:03:48.284 That was a good bit. 00:03:48.304 --> 00:03:49.924 That was a good intro bit. 00:03:50.084 --> 00:03:54.724 As we get closer to the end, we also get more unethical in our intro bits. 00:03:56.924 --> 00:03:57.604 Not unethical. 00:03:57.624 --> 00:03:59.784 I mean, I guess hierarchical is what I'm saying. 00:04:00.164 --> 00:04:03.004 You know, we're getting real wild with it. 00:04:03.504 --> 00:04:11.304 I've been thinking about the juxtaposition between the silly and the serious. 00:04:11.304 --> 00:04:16.404 And so we're going to be seeing that in my cravings today. 00:04:16.604 --> 00:04:28.064 The first one, of course, being how much I crave music that is upbeat and high energy and fun and exciting in its sound. 00:04:28.264 --> 00:04:31.064 But the lyrics are depressing as hell. 00:04:31.744 --> 00:04:32.364 I love that. 00:04:32.624 --> 00:04:34.524 OK, like pumped up kicks. 00:04:34.984 --> 00:04:35.864 Yeah, like pumped up kicks. 00:04:36.064 --> 00:04:39.044 My favorite example, I'm about to send and we can give it a listen. 00:04:39.064 --> 00:04:41.044 I also really like the music video for this one. 00:04:41.064 --> 00:04:42.624 That's why I put it at the point that it's at. 00:04:43.024 --> 00:04:47.084 But it's Mad World, the original version by Tears For Fears. 00:04:48.324 --> 00:04:49.284 Do you want to play on? 00:04:55.164 --> 00:04:57.864 Yeah, they really, I forgot that this was upbeat. 00:04:58.824 --> 00:05:00.364 Yeah, it's so upbeat. 00:05:01.444 --> 00:05:02.924 I love this fucking music video. 00:05:03.164 --> 00:05:05.464 Why is there just a man dancing? 00:05:05.484 --> 00:05:08.824 It's another member of the band and that's the vibe. 00:05:08.844 --> 00:05:11.284 This is exactly the vibe that I'm looking for. 00:05:11.304 --> 00:05:18.724 This guy sadly singing out the window while another guy is just breaking it down outside. 00:05:19.704 --> 00:05:25.684 He has like the hand mitten, the fingerless gloves, but they're like knitted fingerless gloves. 00:05:25.704 --> 00:05:26.484 It's great. 00:05:27.424 --> 00:05:29.244 It's incredible. 00:05:29.644 --> 00:05:35.644 Is the vibe the juxtaposition of the amusing and sad or is it like specifically in music? 00:05:35.664 --> 00:05:37.864 Is it specifically this music video? 00:05:38.764 --> 00:05:40.604 It's all of this type of music. 00:05:40.624 --> 00:05:42.344 There's a lot of really good examples. 00:05:42.364 --> 00:05:44.284 Pumped Up Kicks is another really good example. 00:05:44.824 --> 00:05:47.704 It's like something that you can dance and vibe to. 00:05:48.664 --> 00:05:51.624 But what they're singing about is like, I've got depression. 00:05:51.644 --> 00:05:53.064 I'm having a panic attack. 00:05:54.224 --> 00:05:55.464 Nothing is real by Shura. 00:05:55.644 --> 00:06:02.344 Another good example of that one where it is literally about a panic attack and is like a great song. 00:06:02.564 --> 00:06:07.024 I have a playlist with a bunch of these various types of songs because I'm just obsessed with it. 00:06:07.284 --> 00:06:09.244 I just want more of this to exist in the world. 00:06:09.264 --> 00:06:17.464 I want more of this really specific genre of the music tells you we're having fun, lyrics tell you, no, we're not. 00:06:20.044 --> 00:06:23.704 First of all, I would love to hear any good examples you have of this one that you like. 00:06:24.024 --> 00:06:35.904 I have a hard time hearing lyrics when I listen to music, so I have to listen to a song a hundred times before I know what it's saying, which is definitely why I end up liking a lot of songs like this. 00:06:35.924 --> 00:06:38.604 Because I'm like, oh, wow, this is really catchy. 00:06:38.704 --> 00:06:41.364 And then I'll learn what the song is about. 00:06:41.384 --> 00:06:45.284 I'm like, hmm, this is sad, actually. 00:06:45.544 --> 00:06:45.924 Shit. 00:06:46.604 --> 00:06:47.664 It's still catchy, though. 00:06:48.104 --> 00:06:48.764 Yeah, it is. 00:06:48.784 --> 00:06:49.744 It is catchy, though. 00:06:49.764 --> 00:06:56.184 I've been listening to a lot of post-metal, less vocal stuff, more ambient stuff. 00:06:56.204 --> 00:06:58.184 So, yeah, I don't have any examples. 00:06:58.224 --> 00:07:03.324 But in terms of getting more out of this, getting the sad juice out of our happy juice. 00:07:18.704 --> 00:07:20.004 Will the children be excited about it? 00:07:20.024 --> 00:07:21.844 Will the children know what they're singing about? 00:07:22.164 --> 00:07:24.404 It depends how young the child is. 00:07:24.404 --> 00:07:31.544 I imagine if we get them while they're quite young, we could probably get some really, really sad stuff in there. 00:07:31.584 --> 00:07:34.524 And it probably wouldn't affect them mentally. 00:07:34.544 --> 00:07:39.364 I'm going to do a Google search for saddest songs ever. 00:07:39.984 --> 00:07:44.024 Most depressing songs of all time. 00:07:44.624 --> 00:07:45.764 Hurt by Johnny Cash. 00:07:45.784 --> 00:07:49.484 We're going to make a child orchestra sing Hurt by Johnny Cash. 00:07:49.724 --> 00:07:52.804 Hurt by Nine Inch Nails pop remix. 00:07:52.904 --> 00:07:54.604 I need to know if this already exists. 00:07:55.044 --> 00:08:03.644 The number one rated here, what is Eric Clapton, Tears In Heaven, which is a very sad event that I won't get into. 00:08:03.664 --> 00:08:06.424 What a vibe it would be to have this really upbeat one. 00:08:06.644 --> 00:08:07.484 Oh, shit. 00:08:07.784 --> 00:08:08.884 Hallelujah. 00:08:09.284 --> 00:08:12.304 But it's like a 70s disco remix. 00:08:12.784 --> 00:08:13.764 Oh, my God. 00:08:13.944 --> 00:08:20.104 What about like, I mean, Hyperpop loves to do sad or depressing subjects. 00:08:20.604 --> 00:08:23.204 Have you ever listened to the lyrics of a Hyperpop song? 00:08:23.224 --> 00:08:24.404 You can make them out. 00:08:24.684 --> 00:08:28.364 They're usually about, hey, I'm severely mentally ill and I feel like I'm dying. 00:08:30.384 --> 00:08:31.744 And also, I'm probably trans. 00:08:33.924 --> 00:08:35.964 They've done a lot in those subjects. 00:08:36.524 --> 00:08:38.464 I think maybe they've done less. 00:08:39.524 --> 00:08:41.764 There's probably some that have been about war crimes. 00:08:43.564 --> 00:08:56.524 We should make the monarchy slash president stan pop, where it's kind of, it's sad in the fact that you don't want to listen to it. 00:08:57.624 --> 00:08:58.024 Yes. 00:08:58.804 --> 00:09:00.244 That does make sense to me. 00:09:00.544 --> 00:09:03.624 George Bush did 9-11. 00:09:07.124 --> 00:09:07.724 Please. 00:09:08.604 --> 00:09:19.104 Okay, we need to go for, what's depressing or sad, but not like... 00:09:19.384 --> 00:09:21.324 What's just a sad thing that happens sometimes? 00:09:21.604 --> 00:09:23.164 Oh, how many hyper-pop songs... 00:09:23.544 --> 00:09:24.484 Oh, this is sad. 00:09:24.724 --> 00:09:26.964 Shit, I've put myself into this position. 00:09:27.204 --> 00:09:32.264 But anyway, how many hyper-pop songs do you think there are about pets dying? 00:09:32.284 --> 00:09:34.604 Because a pet dying is pretty sad to me. 00:09:35.964 --> 00:09:38.544 It's basically one of the saddest things I can think of. 00:09:38.564 --> 00:09:44.564 I want to make my pet immortal so that I could live with it forever. 00:09:46.744 --> 00:09:48.904 But I know that it will not happen. 00:09:49.484 --> 00:09:49.844 Right. 00:09:50.104 --> 00:09:53.004 Except it's been pitched up so high. 00:09:53.544 --> 00:09:56.884 It's just like, I want to make my pet immortal. 00:09:57.544 --> 00:09:57.944 Yes. 00:09:58.664 --> 00:10:02.784 I got a little bit wheezer there, but I hope the intent was felt. 00:10:04.664 --> 00:10:09.784 So it doesn't seem like there's a lack of this song type out there. 00:10:10.404 --> 00:10:20.564 I think the last time that I brought up something about this, it was my difficulty finding a lot of this music, of looking through Spotify and being like, why won't Spotify give me this playlist? 00:10:20.984 --> 00:10:22.084 Spotify's a coward. 00:10:22.444 --> 00:10:23.564 Spotify's a coward. 00:10:24.084 --> 00:10:25.324 And I did bring it up then. 00:10:26.084 --> 00:10:29.804 But I just simply think, what if all sad songs were like this? 00:10:29.824 --> 00:10:32.964 What if this was the only way you could do a sad song, was to make it a bop? 00:10:33.724 --> 00:10:41.384 For example, I think we could all agree, the sad version of Mad World doesn't affront to the original version. 00:10:41.984 --> 00:10:46.524 It's fine, I guess, if you want to play it straight or whatever, but I don't want to play anything straight. 00:10:48.664 --> 00:10:53.744 I would agree, except that Lorde did a cover of... 00:10:54.284 --> 00:10:55.724 Everybody Wants To Rule The World? 00:10:55.764 --> 00:10:58.444 Yes, which is better than the original. 00:10:58.444 --> 00:10:59.404 I'm so sorry. 00:11:00.424 --> 00:11:02.124 So that one, I think... 00:11:02.144 --> 00:11:03.484 It's my controversial opinion. 00:11:03.504 --> 00:11:08.064 Both of those versions are super good and I think they really serve different purposes. 00:11:08.084 --> 00:11:17.544 I think I would like to shout out Everybody Wants To Rule The World for ending up on every female villains playlist ever made. 00:11:18.444 --> 00:11:19.564 Both of the versions. 00:11:23.244 --> 00:11:25.844 They're useful in different circumstances, you know? 00:11:25.864 --> 00:11:29.364 So we're outlawing sad, sad songs. 00:11:29.584 --> 00:11:31.644 Only happy sad songs now. 00:11:31.904 --> 00:11:37.024 What do you get out of listening to a really sad-like sounding song? 00:11:37.044 --> 00:11:39.544 What has anyone ever gotten out of a minor key? 00:11:40.744 --> 00:11:41.824 Let's be honest here. 00:11:41.844 --> 00:11:43.824 Let's be honest with ourselves. 00:11:43.844 --> 00:11:45.164 Sometimes you need to cry. 00:11:45.204 --> 00:11:48.404 Sometimes you just need to provoke the tears out of your face. 00:11:48.944 --> 00:12:01.564 Sort of like when you're provoking a bull with a red sheet, you have to sort of lead the tears, sort of swish the sad song in front of your face until the tears are extracted from you. 00:12:02.584 --> 00:12:11.464 I just don't think that you should need fucking Sarah McLachlan singing Arms of the Angels to make you burst into tears. 00:12:11.484 --> 00:12:19.944 To be clear, I feel like that song has been so memed where it's sort of come right around and it's kind of a happy sad song. 00:12:22.344 --> 00:12:27.684 Right, but it was one of those ones that was trying to get specifically that reaction to make people cry. 00:12:27.704 --> 00:12:38.104 And then it was, you know, used in advertisements for almost certainly colonialist missionary endeavors and also maybe songs about pets. 00:12:38.604 --> 00:12:43.344 And it's kind of fucked up that it was used in both of those and we're just not gonna get into that. 00:12:43.524 --> 00:12:50.724 You know, I think you can cry to a really upbeat sad song, but it is, I admit there is definitely time and a place for it. 00:12:50.744 --> 00:12:53.044 There's like a different cry energy. 00:12:53.084 --> 00:12:56.444 It's like instead of beats per minute, you have to consider the tears per minute. 00:12:56.464 --> 00:12:57.664 Like sometimes... 00:12:58.804 --> 00:13:00.524 Right, you gotta sob on beat. 00:13:00.644 --> 00:13:01.724 You gotta sob on beat. 00:13:07.844 --> 00:13:09.744 Yeah, perfect, yes. 00:13:10.944 --> 00:13:13.984 Sometimes you need a really, really slow sob beat. 00:13:14.104 --> 00:13:15.464 Sob, sobs per minute. 00:13:15.484 --> 00:13:16.724 Yeah, it's true. 00:13:17.504 --> 00:13:18.224 SPM. 00:13:18.684 --> 00:13:26.664 Sobs per minute is a really good way to start describing the variety of various types of sad songs. 00:13:27.564 --> 00:13:40.084 Now that I'm thinking about a lot of the sad songs with upbeat lyrics or with upbeat, like sad lyrics, upbeat tempo, I think a lot of this is just being mentally ill and specifically mania. 00:13:40.104 --> 00:13:43.224 This is what mania, sorry, this is what mania feels like. 00:13:43.704 --> 00:13:45.444 Mania has a high sobs per minute. 00:13:45.784 --> 00:13:49.604 I bet that the Follow Up Boy album Mania also has that. 00:13:50.104 --> 00:13:53.444 Though I don't think the Follow Up Boy has ever or could ever make me cry. 00:13:53.804 --> 00:13:56.264 There has to be a band called Sobs Per Minute. 00:13:57.224 --> 00:13:58.284 There has to be. 00:13:58.504 --> 00:13:59.964 If not, it's our band now. 00:14:00.344 --> 00:14:01.164 There isn't. 00:14:01.644 --> 00:14:10.684 Quick, form a band where we only make hyper pop sad songs, but it's double hyper pop because it's even faster. 00:14:10.704 --> 00:14:12.304 Is ska this? 00:14:12.944 --> 00:14:14.664 Ska kind of feels like it's this. 00:14:15.024 --> 00:14:16.984 There's a lot of sad ska, honestly. 00:14:17.004 --> 00:14:18.424 A lot of it is talking about social issues. 00:14:20.164 --> 00:14:24.764 I've become the ska defender recently, not because I listen to a great deal of ska. 00:14:24.784 --> 00:14:26.304 I do like the ska that I've listened to. 00:14:26.424 --> 00:14:28.124 Maybe we gave ska too hard of a time. 00:14:28.144 --> 00:14:35.504 I don't know if we didn't do it, but I think society has given ska a lot of shit that maybe it didn't deserve. 00:14:35.744 --> 00:14:38.364 Me out here with a sign that says band ska. 00:14:38.784 --> 00:14:39.824 I can't believe you. 00:14:40.504 --> 00:14:42.224 Ska defender has logged on. 00:14:42.484 --> 00:14:44.924 Thank you for musing on me with this sort of music. 00:14:44.944 --> 00:14:48.824 If anyone's got good recommendations for your favorite songs of this type, let me know. 00:14:48.844 --> 00:14:51.844 Maybe I'll throw together a playlist and link it with the description. 00:14:52.244 --> 00:14:53.904 Keep them subs per minute high. 00:14:54.344 --> 00:14:55.724 You know how Brianna likes it. 00:14:57.344 --> 00:15:01.184 Phrasing it like that is concerning to me. 00:15:01.204 --> 00:15:06.024 Let's just push on to your next craving. 00:15:06.484 --> 00:15:09.104 I didn't actually pick any of my cravings yet. 00:15:09.844 --> 00:15:11.004 Why didn't you do it? 00:15:11.024 --> 00:15:16.024 This is episode 67. 00:15:16.704 --> 00:15:17.564 I'm looking at them. 00:15:17.584 --> 00:15:23.204 We've been doing this for 66 episodes and every time we pick our cravings beforehand. 00:15:23.284 --> 00:15:30.304 And we might have a last minute switch up part way through when we realize the vibes of the episode, but we always have them chosen beforehand. 00:15:30.324 --> 00:15:31.564 Good God. 00:15:31.584 --> 00:15:34.564 Are we not professionals? 00:15:35.284 --> 00:15:35.764 No. 00:15:36.144 --> 00:15:36.564 What? 00:15:36.564 --> 00:15:36.964 No. 00:15:39.584 --> 00:15:55.504 My first craving is discomfort in safety because I really like when I can feel uncomfortable in an environment that I know I will be safe in because that usually results in growth. 00:15:56.024 --> 00:15:56.364 Yeah. 00:15:56.384 --> 00:15:56.984 So I crave it. 00:15:57.844 --> 00:16:00.444 So you crave safe discomfort. 00:16:01.064 --> 00:16:10.304 Yeah, like the knowledge that like I can be wrong, I can have an uncomfortable conversation and my safety will not be in jeopardy. 00:16:10.484 --> 00:16:14.264 That is how growth happens and that is how things change. 00:16:14.624 --> 00:16:30.504 And also just like sometimes I think about this even just beyond needing to talk things through and grow and all of that, seeing media that like can make you uncomfortable or parts of media that can make you uncomfortable, but you're doing it in a safe way. 00:16:30.524 --> 00:16:32.984 I mean, that's the basis of horror, right? 00:16:33.004 --> 00:16:35.144 Like, good horror is that. 00:16:36.044 --> 00:16:38.444 Oh, maybe I should go into a horror movie. 00:16:38.944 --> 00:16:41.864 Maybe I should just make my life a horror movie and then. 00:16:41.884 --> 00:16:47.104 So here's my concern about that is, you remember the safe part of that? 00:16:47.264 --> 00:16:48.904 Is being not in the movie. 00:16:49.284 --> 00:16:54.324 Right, the safety part of it is not being in the movie, so you're not actually threatened. 00:16:55.564 --> 00:17:03.424 So we don't want you to be actually threatened, but what if you could get up close to it and not be threatened by it? 00:17:03.444 --> 00:17:05.644 It's like VR horror movie. 00:17:05.944 --> 00:17:08.664 I guess, yeah, VR is the thing that I'm describing. 00:17:08.804 --> 00:17:14.164 I want the experience of having my face ripped off without actually losing the skin on my face. 00:17:14.344 --> 00:17:17.464 It's no skin off my face, as they say. 00:17:17.484 --> 00:17:24.424 And maybe like you and the murderer can talk about complex political issues in some way. 00:17:24.624 --> 00:17:28.464 New Horror Game just dropped, talk the murderer down from murdering you. 00:17:28.484 --> 00:17:37.724 It uses AI language detection and VR, and it's you sitting across from someone who is going to murder you in an hour. 00:17:37.744 --> 00:17:41.224 That sounds kind of great. 00:17:41.584 --> 00:17:42.384 I'm not gonna lie. 00:17:42.384 --> 00:17:45.944 Also, there's a lot of games that I think do this, right? 00:17:46.024 --> 00:17:50.604 There's lots of group games that are all about feeling uncomfortable in a safe space. 00:17:50.624 --> 00:18:12.124 I mean, the thing that you described is not all that different from Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes, which is that game where one of you is trying to undo a bomb and the other person has the instructions and you have to describe what the bomb looks like and they have to look through and find the relevant instructions and read you the instructions. 00:18:12.144 --> 00:18:14.204 You have to work together and hope not to fuck up. 00:18:14.664 --> 00:18:17.184 I don't know if this is exactly the discomfort I'm... 00:18:17.284 --> 00:18:26.204 Well, maybe wearing a VR headset is quite uncomfortable, but maybe I can do something like the safety dance to keep me safe. 00:18:26.224 --> 00:18:27.904 We've been talking a lot about songs. 00:18:27.984 --> 00:18:31.184 I think what if you talk on the dance floor, then you're safe? 00:18:31.564 --> 00:18:32.164 Totally. 00:18:32.184 --> 00:18:40.364 You're just having discussions about things you're not sure about on the dance floor, just like whatever lesbian discourse of the day, right? 00:18:40.384 --> 00:18:42.404 You're like on the dance floor. 00:18:42.424 --> 00:18:46.224 It's like, I just don't understand what a he-him lesbian is. 00:18:46.624 --> 00:18:46.924 Right. 00:18:46.944 --> 00:18:47.744 Just dancing. 00:18:47.784 --> 00:18:49.704 Like, I'm not really sure about bi lesbians. 00:18:54.704 --> 00:18:59.764 And then cue your friend explaining the history of lesbians for 30 to 40 minutes. 00:19:01.304 --> 00:19:03.204 While everyone's still dancing. 00:19:03.224 --> 00:19:06.664 Yeah, while no one stops dancing. 00:19:06.744 --> 00:19:19.664 At one point, there's a 10 minute solo where all the lights go on your friend, and they're doing this great maneuver, but they're still explaining as everyone is clapping them on. 00:19:19.964 --> 00:19:22.544 They're doing a headspin, still talking. 00:19:23.104 --> 00:19:24.084 Oh my god. 00:19:24.124 --> 00:19:34.084 I'm just imagining them going through the eras of lesbian history, and they're like, well, what do you know about 1920s Paris and the beat drops? 00:19:43.404 --> 00:19:59.084 Songs that involve just this new thing is we're creating a club where people can discuss issues and seek some information and feel a little bit uncomfortable, but in a safe space. 00:19:59.504 --> 00:20:03.144 And we know that this club is a safe space for that sort of questioning and stuff. 00:20:03.624 --> 00:20:08.584 I've just solved your other craving too, because it's songs that make you uncomfortable. 00:20:08.604 --> 00:20:11.264 Yeah, I was going to say also that one. 00:20:11.524 --> 00:20:16.424 So it's less sad and more like, I should probably keep listening to that album. 00:20:16.444 --> 00:20:17.144 It was really good. 00:20:17.164 --> 00:20:23.204 I was teaching a bee about like, I don't know if I agree with it yet, but I still have like 30 songs left in the album. 00:20:23.264 --> 00:20:25.764 Albums are really long with this genre. 00:20:25.944 --> 00:20:27.944 Yeah, because it gets really complicated. 00:20:28.324 --> 00:20:33.804 I'm just imagining this fucking atmosphere and it's delighting me. 00:20:33.824 --> 00:20:39.164 Just someone being like, you know, the way I was raised, there were only men and women. 00:20:41.764 --> 00:20:43.064 But I really want to learn more. 00:20:43.624 --> 00:20:44.864 But I really want to learn more. 00:20:44.884 --> 00:20:55.004 I love the idea of this being a genre too, because then it's like, your friend says something is like, oh shit, wait, wait, that's okay. 00:20:55.024 --> 00:20:56.044 We need to talk about this. 00:20:56.504 --> 00:20:58.044 But I don't think I can say it as well. 00:20:58.304 --> 00:20:59.684 DJ, put this on. 00:20:59.704 --> 00:21:05.244 And then you just do a request and the DJ plays the song that explains it and everyone keeps dancing. 00:21:06.144 --> 00:21:15.684 Now I'm just imagining explaining complex political theory throughout an album where each song explains kind of a different concept. 00:21:15.704 --> 00:21:22.404 And by the end, you've basically heard fucking techno music version of the Communist Manifesto. 00:21:26.724 --> 00:21:28.244 Seize the means of production. 00:21:28.944 --> 00:21:31.884 The Communist Manidisco is what it's called. 00:21:32.164 --> 00:21:34.604 Yeah, this feels like a pretty safe way to do this, right? 00:21:34.624 --> 00:21:37.204 Like what's safer than just dancing with your friends? 00:21:37.224 --> 00:21:41.044 And you know what we got places for, if you feel uncomfortable, some of the conversations happening, right? 00:21:41.064 --> 00:21:43.224 If they're painful to you, if they're harmful to you. 00:21:43.684 --> 00:21:48.584 We got a club next door where we don't, we resist, where we all chill. 00:21:49.184 --> 00:21:51.964 Don't, it's two clubs right next door to each other. 00:21:51.984 --> 00:21:55.344 One's the discomfort zone, and one's the non discomfort zone, you know? 00:21:55.344 --> 00:22:00.324 The discomfort zone is a good podcast that I think some of us used to listen to. 00:22:03.364 --> 00:22:03.824 You know what? 00:22:04.584 --> 00:22:09.084 Yeah, it really, I can't, I'm not even gonna go there. 00:22:09.724 --> 00:22:11.144 Okay, cool. 00:22:11.164 --> 00:22:17.944 So I like this because if it is music, you can definitely find comfort in your own way, right? 00:22:17.964 --> 00:22:21.164 Like you could listen to this on your own time on a bus. 00:22:21.244 --> 00:22:26.044 Like maybe you just want to be really uncomfortable on a bus after the pandemic. 00:22:26.344 --> 00:22:27.864 This is when this comes in. 00:22:28.224 --> 00:22:29.264 Right, that's the thing. 00:22:29.284 --> 00:22:37.724 Because right now, there's a lot of feeling discomfort in actively unsafe spaces, which is everywhere right now is an actively unsafe space. 00:22:37.964 --> 00:22:39.964 So we need discomfort in safe spaces. 00:22:40.744 --> 00:22:46.964 Sometimes you want to think about how he, him, bi lesbian Jesus loves you too. 00:22:50.264 --> 00:22:52.184 Okay, this is a different Jesus. 00:22:52.404 --> 00:22:53.544 Yeah, this is a different Jesus. 00:22:53.564 --> 00:22:54.884 Different Jesus every week. 00:22:55.344 --> 00:22:58.624 Yeah, that's what we're promising as we wind down Salt Craving. 00:22:58.644 --> 00:23:00.024 This is the Patreon content. 00:23:00.044 --> 00:23:01.124 Different Jesus every week. 00:23:01.144 --> 00:23:02.584 Hey, new Jesus just dropped. 00:23:03.184 --> 00:23:05.524 New Jesus just dropped. 00:23:07.084 --> 00:23:09.504 Hang on, are there any non-lesbian Jesus? 00:23:09.524 --> 00:23:11.704 Because right now, we've done a lot of lesbian Jesus. 00:23:12.084 --> 00:23:18.304 I think there's like non-lesbian sapphic Jesus, but, you know, I think that's about as far as it gets. 00:23:18.724 --> 00:23:21.664 Jesus who's still questioning, but is pretty sure... 00:23:21.684 --> 00:23:23.164 Questioning Jesus, yeah. 00:23:23.384 --> 00:23:25.144 That'll be an answer to come back to. 00:23:25.164 --> 00:23:26.844 It hasn't crossed his mind yet. 00:23:26.864 --> 00:23:29.664 I just need a moment. 00:23:29.684 --> 00:23:35.444 I just need a moment where I forget that joke was made. 00:23:36.964 --> 00:23:38.664 It's uncomfortable to me, you see. 00:23:38.684 --> 00:23:41.644 Because I'm such a Jesus gal. 00:23:41.664 --> 00:23:43.004 I'm such a Jesus gal. 00:23:43.084 --> 00:23:45.044 I love Jesus. 00:23:46.624 --> 00:23:50.944 I love the way he sucked on dude's toes. 00:23:52.344 --> 00:23:52.904 Uh-huh. 00:23:53.304 --> 00:23:53.584 Yep. 00:23:54.404 --> 00:23:55.864 All right, there wasn't more to that. 00:23:55.864 --> 00:23:57.684 All right, yeah, there was... 00:23:59.064 --> 00:24:07.664 I'm sorry, I've just been thinking a lot about how in the time that the Bible was written, washing someone's feet was a euphemism for sex. 00:24:07.724 --> 00:24:17.084 And I just need to know about how that became a euphemism for sex and whether that involved, whether that was a foot fetish thing. 00:24:17.344 --> 00:24:20.644 It's giving me a lot of questions that I don't know the answer to. 00:24:20.924 --> 00:24:28.224 Thinking about euphemisms for sex, I'm gonna derail the podcast into Star Wars again, because that's part of what this podcast is, I think. 00:24:28.604 --> 00:24:46.384 I just watched the last few episodes of the first season of Clone Wars, and in the last episode of the first season, there is an entire scene where Anakin is asking Padme to touch his penis, because the lightsaber is a metaphor for his penis. 00:24:46.804 --> 00:24:48.724 Do you know what I'm talking about? 00:24:49.204 --> 00:24:53.044 I had forgotten about those episodes, because I ignore any Anakin-Padme episodes. 00:24:53.064 --> 00:24:55.464 I like Anakin episodes, and I like Padme episodes. 00:24:55.484 --> 00:24:57.124 I hate Anakin-Padme episodes. 00:24:57.204 --> 00:25:04.784 There is an entire opening scene where Anakin is like, I want you to hold this, and it's like, and she's like, it's so heavy. 00:25:04.804 --> 00:25:07.544 Oh my god, it's a metaphor for his fucking penis. 00:25:08.344 --> 00:25:10.064 Oh my fucking god. 00:25:10.144 --> 00:25:11.084 I didn't realize. 00:25:13.824 --> 00:25:15.184 This is so fucked. 00:25:15.384 --> 00:25:16.264 Oh my god. 00:25:16.284 --> 00:25:18.484 No one watch Clone Wars. 00:25:18.504 --> 00:25:19.924 That shit's terrifying. 00:25:20.424 --> 00:25:21.764 That shit will make you uncomfortable. 00:25:22.124 --> 00:25:23.524 Yeah, it does. 00:25:23.964 --> 00:25:28.244 I was watching that scene, and I was like, hold on a second. 00:25:28.604 --> 00:25:31.044 He's talking about his penis. 00:25:32.224 --> 00:25:32.704 What? 00:25:33.684 --> 00:25:36.884 And it just recontextualizes the whole scene in the worst way. 00:25:36.904 --> 00:25:39.004 At least he wasn't cleaning his blaster. 00:25:40.264 --> 00:25:41.204 Cleaning his rifle. 00:25:41.224 --> 00:25:43.244 You get the reference? 00:25:43.264 --> 00:25:44.864 The clones did that. 00:25:44.924 --> 00:25:46.604 Yeah, one of the clones did that. 00:25:46.624 --> 00:25:47.924 It was ha ha ha ha. 00:25:47.944 --> 00:25:49.584 Masturbation. 00:25:49.604 --> 00:25:51.544 There's a lot of sex jokes in Clone Wars. 00:25:51.784 --> 00:25:56.824 Also, this is not even that much of a derail because as we know, Anakin is a Jesus. 00:25:57.204 --> 00:26:01.584 Because he's a chosen one who was conceived through immaculate conception. 00:26:01.604 --> 00:26:02.324 Mm-hmm. 00:26:02.964 --> 00:26:04.244 Anakin is he-him Jesus. 00:26:04.944 --> 00:26:15.564 Can I just say that he's calling him he-him Jesus as if Jesus doesn't already use like the core, like the core canon Jesus, main universe Jesus? 00:26:17.144 --> 00:26:19.004 Canon comes from the Bible. 00:26:19.444 --> 00:26:20.844 Canon comes from the Bible. 00:26:20.864 --> 00:26:23.824 Calling him canonical Jesus is accurate, okay? 00:26:23.844 --> 00:26:29.564 It's like canonical, I will have you respect canonical Jesus. 00:26:29.904 --> 00:26:32.404 This is, this happened in the book. 00:26:32.724 --> 00:26:34.144 I know all of the lore. 00:26:34.224 --> 00:26:35.784 I know the Jesus lore. 00:26:36.064 --> 00:26:42.404 Should we, should we maybe, should we burn Burn That Craving? 00:26:42.684 --> 00:26:44.004 We definitely set it in sync. 00:26:44.304 --> 00:26:50.244 A segment where we burn our old cravings and consider the flammability of the cravings, whatever that means. 00:26:50.344 --> 00:26:51.844 Okay, here's what I think we should do this time. 00:26:52.784 --> 00:27:02.344 We should try and decide to either both burn one concrete, one esoteric conceptual one, and then one wild card, okay? 00:27:02.364 --> 00:27:03.004 Okay, cool. 00:27:03.704 --> 00:27:06.004 Yeah, I got my first one. 00:27:06.384 --> 00:27:08.504 Yeah, the first one's gonna be the hardest one for me. 00:27:08.784 --> 00:27:12.064 Alright, my first one is the Pokemon Trading Card Game. 00:27:12.464 --> 00:27:14.404 My first one is Good Poutine. 00:27:14.424 --> 00:27:17.424 Good Poutine is pretty fire. 00:27:18.224 --> 00:27:24.144 Yeah, but I think the Pokemon Trading Card Game can, those cards can burn much easier than Soggy Poutine. 00:27:24.264 --> 00:27:29.144 What if you put some cheese and gravy on some Pokemon cards? 00:27:29.164 --> 00:27:29.904 Is that Poutine? 00:27:30.704 --> 00:27:31.764 Alright, second one. 00:27:32.984 --> 00:27:35.804 The concept of making time for yourself. 00:27:36.644 --> 00:27:42.224 Oh, it's really funny because mine is full days alone with no human interaction. 00:27:46.444 --> 00:27:48.804 Yours is the setup, mine is the payoff. 00:27:49.184 --> 00:27:52.624 Right, yours is the active of my conceptual. 00:27:53.024 --> 00:27:55.324 Damn it, mine is still less conceptual. 00:27:55.664 --> 00:27:57.604 I don't know how to judge which one of these. 00:27:57.624 --> 00:28:04.084 I mean, at this point, we fully made clear that we just choose based on whatever we want to do the third round. 00:28:04.464 --> 00:28:04.924 Yeah. 00:28:05.164 --> 00:28:08.164 Let's just go with mine for that one since you won the first round. 00:28:08.184 --> 00:28:11.524